That's fair. I know my garage is a huge ground and it works to my advantage. Before it became a base antenna it was a mobile antenna for a few years before that. Not as good as my 102" whip, but darn close. Again, maybe the old ones were/are better. I liked the K40's back in the day also. I went through many mobile antennas over the years. K40's, Solarcons, Antron Golds, Fire sticks, Wilson 1000's, Diesels, rubber ducks, etc. In the late 80's - 90's thefts of radios and antennas was rampant sadly.