New USSS radios?

[Jeff0625]

Firefox10 - very interesting read - thanks for taking the time to explain everything to us. I am learning lots.

 

[Firefox10]

I have both the UHF and VHF in my Boston Bank, and maybe once a month there is chatter in the clear

 

[ecps92]

I have both the UHF and VHF in my Boston Bank, and maybe once a month there is chatter in the clear

Yup - ever since the Sgt Major retired from the USSS Desk in Boston it is very quiet on Baker, Charlie, Mike etc

 

[JimD56]

USSS PPD (Only, NOT Field Agents) and not Inter-Operability with other agencies, runs strictly VHF(E) and nothing else. Whether CONUS or Abroad. I have trained and rode with the USSS "Hammer Team" on numerous presidential visits at MIA.

 

[Hbright]

USSS PPD (Only, NOT Field Agents) and not Inter-Operability with other agencies, runs strictly VHF(E) and nothing else. Whether CONUS or Abroad. I have trained and rode with the USSS "Hammer Team" on numerous presidential visits at MIA.

Does HAMMER or any of the other specialty units that support Protective Ops have their own frequency?

 

[Hbright]

I have no idea what regions are to the USSS They have their own channels (repeater and simplex) Mostly all use VHF simplex thats why scanners very seldom pic them up, now with 8500's they are encrypted while the 5000's some were and some weren't which caused problems.

I caught a glimpse of an APX 8500 in a Suburban on a DPD detail, and the Zone was “Protection.” I assume they’ve got all their VHF Simplex Protective Ops channels (Oscar, Mike, Baker, Pap, Tango, CNOS 1-3 etc) in this 16-channel zone.

 

[JimD56]

Does HAMMER or any of the other specialty units that support Protective Ops have their own frequency?

Yes. VHF(E) Simplex 1 Watt for Suit to Suit, Man to Man. HAMMER Team Leader maintains 2 Freqs with the other to PPD Assignment C/P.

 

[Hbright]

Yes. VHF(E) Simplex 1 Watt for Suit to Suit, Man to Man.

Do you know what freq that is? Poss 167.0375 or 162.6875?

 

[JimD56]

Do you know what freq that is? Poss 167.0375 or 162.6875?

It doesn't matter they are ALL "E". Encrypted. You can NOT receive with anything.

 

[surfacemount]

The USSS has UHF channels. On the POTUS LIMOS there are VHF antennas, but on the Suburbans he has is 2 VHF and 2 UHF hockey pucks. Overseas they use UHF mainly and bring "on board" repeaters.

I have no idea what regions are to the USSS They have their own channels (repeater and simplex) Mostly all use VHF simplex thats why scanners very seldom pic them up, now with 8500's they are encrypted while the 5000's some were and some weren't which caused problems.

All alphabet agencies have their basic 10-12 channels which are in the 8500's, dependant on the region some of course have more. (DC has a slew) but the basic are in zones in the 8000's. Another thing to remember is they have OTAR and OTAP.

Also, the 6 door suburban always follows the motorcade for POTUS or any major dignitaries. That "radio shop on wheels" has the ability to patch anything into anything (haha) it has 8 8500s, 5 7500's, and 5 6500's just for starters not to mention the sat radios for WHCA to it and if needed patch to POTUS over VHF. It also has the "base" for the L band (sat) radios. There are about 20 portables in that vehicle and 8 in another suburban. These are the size of a Unication receiver. They are sat radios for over seas if channels are compromised due to different frequency allocations from country to country, as a last resort.

Review the Project 25 federal radio plan That sets all the UHF/VHF channels for the 25 major cities and their networks which I talked of in my first post. Each one of those is in every 8500 and 8850. (boston has those channels and bapern)

Hope I am not boring everyone or too longwinded.

Wow.
They really let you on the inside, apparently.

I have a question. You say the comms vehicle has the base for the L band portables. I was under the impression they talked direct to satellite. Are they just talking to the base in the comms truck, then out from there?

 

[surfacemount]

It doesn't matter they are ALL "E". Encrypted. You can NOT receive with anything.

Perhaps he is making a list, and not necessarily trying to monitor.

 

[Firefox10]

Wow.
They really let you on the inside, apparently.

I have a question. You say the comms vehicle has the base for the L band portables. I was under the impression they talked direct to satellite. Are they just talking to the base in the comms truck, then out from there?

Sorry, my nominclature, the radios are in the base setup (meaning a rack type charger & holder) in the comms unit. Also 3-4 in every USSS vehicle in the POTUS or VPOTUS motorcade. In counter assault suburban, they always have 4 thrown in the cup holders. I have a pic somewhere I'll send. They are small radios like the unication pagers. Don't need much power to go direct to Sats which are always overhead on POTUS.

 

[merlin]

My local FD just changed to APX8000s. The ugly yellow ones.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Sorry, my nominclature, the radios are in the base setup (meaning a rack type charger & holder) in the comms unit. Also 3-4 in every USSS vehicle in the POTUS or VPOTUS motorcade. In counter assault suburban, they always have 4 thrown in the cup holders. I have a pic somewhere I'll send. They are small radios like the unication pagers. Don't need much power to go direct to Sats which are always overhead on POTUS.

Are these Iridium PTT radios? Sure would like a picture and nomenclature.

 

[surfacemount]

Sorry, my nominclature, the radios are in the base setup (meaning a rack type charger & holder) in the comms unit. Also 3-4 in every USSS vehicle in the POTUS or VPOTUS motorcade. In counter assault suburban, they always have 4 thrown in the cup holders. I have a pic somewhere I'll send. They are small radios like the unication pagers. Don't need much power to go direct to Sats which are always overhead on POTUS.

Thank you!
I think I ran these down a few years ago, when the Drive or someone posted the older ROADRUNNERS that wound up in the hands of DOD. I recognized the antenna but not the radio.
Their throwdown radio choices are interesting, too. WHCA was using the modern lunchbox units; that would be perfect for what protective division is doing, but I don't recall ever seeing a picture of one.
Then of course, there's one vehicle I've always wanted to learn more about, but few even know what I am talking about lol

Thanks for participating in the thread, any pics you have that you feel like sharing, send them our way!

 

[iowajm780]

My local FD just changed to APX8000s. The ugly yellow ones.

Curious, how does this relate to the USSS radios?.

 

[StoliRaz]

Hmm, that SS boy needs to loose some weight and keep his plinker from showing.

If he drops something his pants might need a patch more than his radio 😂

 

[Firefox10]

Nice security plan for Bidens Israel trip. Both AF 1s went (28000 and 29000) and both had exact fighter escorts. one an hour in back of the other same route. They switched a couple times in flight. Had 2 identical motorcades with suburbans instead of the limos. All the same plates and both motorcades used a white and gray suburban in each motorcade as "escape cars"

Saw a couple USSS on you tube have in their earpieces but small "unication size" radios in their hands Those are the L band units. Guess they didnt trust anything over there.

Also checkout AF1 on take off. Only did a Hot take off one other time with Bush leaving Florida on 9/11. Got into air fast, bank to the right, around 75 degrees, come out of bank, inclined 30% and straight to 30,000 ft. Must of been a cool ride.

 

[Firefox10]

Seen at Andrews on Wednesday----the NEW AF 1, just landing, turn around, and take off
New (Trump) color scheme (like old one better) bur does have United States of America in previous text font!

And the number is------30000

Its dup will be 31000

This thing is huge!

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Are these Iridium PTT radios? Sure would like a picture and nomenclature.

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