SOFA_KING
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NEWS FLASH: FLORIDA BP THROWS THE P25 SWITCH.
It was just about a month ago when I was listening to the usual high CBP traffic off the east coast on my new Astro equipment (better listening without MDC, OTAR, and encryption noise) and noticed a couple of weeks ago that traffic slowed down quite a bit. Strange absence of traffic, but maybe it was the Labor Day holiday slowdown coming up. I am still hearing some analog traffic on NET 28, 16, 1, 2, 12 and others, but just not nearly as much. Hardly nothing on the BP (220 dispatch) analog freqs, and what little there was sounded weird or noisy. I just summed it up to bad radio maintenance (business as usual). Been doing more radio programming on my new toys than searching, but did do some searching around my area on Labor Day when I get a new one with NAC 301. Just some data bursts (muted), but strong. Band opening? Anyway, I was on high alert with that NAC and put more effort into searching this week.
Come Tuesday morning the doors blew wide open. New P25 frequencies all over the place with both BP/ICE 220 traffic and some Charlie 100 CBP traffic. Did some extensive driving around the State for work and took a lot of notes. It would appear that most of the analog 163/168 Mhz BP (220) traffic was reframed to new frequencies on the upper part of the band. NAC 301 looks like SE FL repeaters, NAC 302 is NE FL, NAC 303 is Tampa and SW FL, and NAC 304 is Central FL covering Orlando and East. The system sounds good (when ITC) and mimics the old system somewhat by transmitting on multiple repeater frequencies at the same time, but not all the time. The big difference I hear is that Charlie 100 CBP traffic is now on this system with 220 BP traffic. Unknown if different talk groups are used, and much more needs to be analyzed to know DNET names and inputs. This is breaking news, so updates will follow.
Here is the raw data for what I have and what I suspect so far:
172.2375 NAC 301 (confirmed Ft. Pierce repeater site)
170.7250 NAC 301 (same freq as old Palm Beach analog repeater but now P25)
170.6000 NAC 301 (suspected Hillsborough repeater site…need to verify)
169.9375 NAC 302 (heard near Green Cove Springs SW of Jacksonville)
172.7125 NAC 303 (Tampa units strong in St. Petersburg)
169.6000 NAC 303 (silent hits in Clearwater…real data or image?…need more)
170.9875 NAC 304 (Orlando units…suspected Ft. Drum repeater site)
172.8625 NAC 304 (suspected St. Cloud / Brevard repeater site)
170.6750 NAC 304 (suspected Osteen repeater Site)
173.5000 NAC 325 (on 3/24/11 near Yulee, FL GA line…now makes sense)
Some other notable recent hits:
164.6500 (USS Tango) NAC 001, 301, 167, 293 (all this morning! what is going on here? Playing with new radio channels???)
171.9625 NAC 282 (all ENC S-5 in Palm Beach up to Stuart where it was weaker. Could this be the first CBP P25 repeater in my area?)
170.8625 NAC 156 (strong in Tampa and heard out to Lake Wales, FL. DEA?)
170.8500 NAC 864 (heard multiple times around Orlando…USMS?)
The search and data collection will be ongoing until I cover all of FL. If anyone can search and provide valid input, please do. I did not see any Florida updates for this here or on Chris P’s blog. This is pretty cutting-edge and a good time to pickup on new channels. What CBP will do to reframe, I’m not sure. Orlando had NAC 301 testing on 165.2375 for over a year now, but so far I have not heard any P25 on the analog NET freqs. TAC21 164.9625 has had simplex NAC 301 traffic for a while, but not that often. Analog CBP traffic is so slow I have to believe they are somewhere, but have not heard anything other than that unknown 171.9625 NAC 282 in Palm Beach County. More to come!
Phil
It was just about a month ago when I was listening to the usual high CBP traffic off the east coast on my new Astro equipment (better listening without MDC, OTAR, and encryption noise) and noticed a couple of weeks ago that traffic slowed down quite a bit. Strange absence of traffic, but maybe it was the Labor Day holiday slowdown coming up. I am still hearing some analog traffic on NET 28, 16, 1, 2, 12 and others, but just not nearly as much. Hardly nothing on the BP (220 dispatch) analog freqs, and what little there was sounded weird or noisy. I just summed it up to bad radio maintenance (business as usual). Been doing more radio programming on my new toys than searching, but did do some searching around my area on Labor Day when I get a new one with NAC 301. Just some data bursts (muted), but strong. Band opening? Anyway, I was on high alert with that NAC and put more effort into searching this week.
Come Tuesday morning the doors blew wide open. New P25 frequencies all over the place with both BP/ICE 220 traffic and some Charlie 100 CBP traffic. Did some extensive driving around the State for work and took a lot of notes. It would appear that most of the analog 163/168 Mhz BP (220) traffic was reframed to new frequencies on the upper part of the band. NAC 301 looks like SE FL repeaters, NAC 302 is NE FL, NAC 303 is Tampa and SW FL, and NAC 304 is Central FL covering Orlando and East. The system sounds good (when ITC) and mimics the old system somewhat by transmitting on multiple repeater frequencies at the same time, but not all the time. The big difference I hear is that Charlie 100 CBP traffic is now on this system with 220 BP traffic. Unknown if different talk groups are used, and much more needs to be analyzed to know DNET names and inputs. This is breaking news, so updates will follow.
Here is the raw data for what I have and what I suspect so far:
172.2375 NAC 301 (confirmed Ft. Pierce repeater site)
170.7250 NAC 301 (same freq as old Palm Beach analog repeater but now P25)
170.6000 NAC 301 (suspected Hillsborough repeater site…need to verify)
169.9375 NAC 302 (heard near Green Cove Springs SW of Jacksonville)
172.7125 NAC 303 (Tampa units strong in St. Petersburg)
169.6000 NAC 303 (silent hits in Clearwater…real data or image?…need more)
170.9875 NAC 304 (Orlando units…suspected Ft. Drum repeater site)
172.8625 NAC 304 (suspected St. Cloud / Brevard repeater site)
170.6750 NAC 304 (suspected Osteen repeater Site)
173.5000 NAC 325 (on 3/24/11 near Yulee, FL GA line…now makes sense)
Some other notable recent hits:
164.6500 (USS Tango) NAC 001, 301, 167, 293 (all this morning! what is going on here? Playing with new radio channels???)
171.9625 NAC 282 (all ENC S-5 in Palm Beach up to Stuart where it was weaker. Could this be the first CBP P25 repeater in my area?)
170.8625 NAC 156 (strong in Tampa and heard out to Lake Wales, FL. DEA?)
170.8500 NAC 864 (heard multiple times around Orlando…USMS?)
The search and data collection will be ongoing until I cover all of FL. If anyone can search and provide valid input, please do. I did not see any Florida updates for this here or on Chris P’s blog. This is pretty cutting-edge and a good time to pickup on new channels. What CBP will do to reframe, I’m not sure. Orlando had NAC 301 testing on 165.2375 for over a year now, but so far I have not heard any P25 on the analog NET freqs. TAC21 164.9625 has had simplex NAC 301 traffic for a while, but not that often. Analog CBP traffic is so slow I have to believe they are somewhere, but have not heard anything other than that unknown 171.9625 NAC 282 in Palm Beach County. More to come!
Phil