North Tonawanda NY police frequency queation

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personally i like portability and battery use in case of a power outage.
the wife was going to order the 100 today but the amazon order was about $750 already.
 

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I have looked at the radio on Amazon and cannot tell if it uses the same AA rechargeable batteries that I got for my BCD325. Do you know?
 

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everything says battery pack.
from different manuals...
The SDS100 is powered by a Lithium Ion battery
It also uses a battery pack instead of AA batteries.
got a pic...
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Would there be any advantage to the SDS200 over the SDS100?
There will be no difference in performance or should I say increase in performance. The only difference with the 100 and the 200 is portable or base mobile.

As far as handling simulcast distortion and giving you clearer audio, both radios will behave the same, it's just whatever you want in a radio, portable or fixed.
 

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I have looked at the radio on Amazon and cannot tell if it uses the same AA rechargeable batteries that I got for my BCD325. Do you know?
everything says battery pack.
from different manuals...
The SDS100 is powered by a Lithium Ion battery
It also uses a battery pack instead of AA batteries.
got a pic...
View attachment 128028
Yes the story behind that is, the power demands of The 100 could not be served by double A batteries of any type. When the radio was first introduced in 2018 it had even a smaller battery pack which just did not last long enough and Uniden had a replacement campaign, they gave away a larger battery and a new battery cover to holders of the smaller battery pack giving the radio the big butt look.
 

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What antenna are you using? Is the antenna a base or portable whip?
the antenna i use to pickup niagara cty is the omni x base antenna on my roof. If your in niagara cty you probably do not need a base/roof antenna to pickup the niagara cty signal.. If you go to their control channel 453.625 and are getting a strong signal with the antenna you have then you will probably be fine. The issue you have sounds like the common simulcast distortion problem that occurs. The sds-100 or 200 will solve that.
 

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I am still having trouble understanding what is being said on my scanner. Is this what you are talking about when you say distortion. If the place I purchased my BCD325 from would let me trade it in for a SDS100/200 would the sound be clearer or not?
Is the distortion only on the P25 Trunked system or is it also on conventional analog channels? If it is only on the trunked system, it is the expected effect of the scanner not able to handle simulcast. If analog signals are also distorted then the scanner is probably defective.

With the simulcast problem, moving the scanner to a different location may make reception better or worse. The SDS100/200 scanners do not have a problem with simulcast reception but may have other issues.
 

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the antenna i use to pickup niagara cty is the omni x base antenna on my roof. If your in niagara cty you probably do not need a base/roof antenna to pickup the niagara cty signal.. If you go to their control channel 453.625 and are getting a strong signal with the antenna you have then you will probably be fine. The issue you have sounds like the common simulcast distortion problem that occurs. The sds-100 or 200 will solve that.
Thanks, i actually installed this antenna after taking with you in previous messages. It works ok, I used to have a discone and I felt that worked better. I’ll have to see how the antenna works over the winter and maybe replace in the spring. I have no luck picking up genesee county with this antenna. I have it hooked up to my 536. I will have to try it on the sds-100. Always appreciate the help!
 

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Thanks, i actually installed this antenna after taking with you in previous messages. It works ok, I used to have a discone and I felt that worked better. I’ll have to see how the antenna works over the winter and maybe replace in the spring. I have no luck picking up genesee county with this antenna. I have it hooked up to my 536. I will have to try it on the sds-100. Always appreciate the help!
i never have a issue picking up genesee cty. The system comes in strong all the time. If i use just the omni x antenna i get 4 bars at -97 rssi. I also have a remtoronic 800 mhz hand held antenna that i stuck on my roof. I used exisiting rg6 cable that i had up there from a old directv dish. I added a signal booster to that line. When i connect the two feeds together the signal increase to 5 bars -79 rssi. I have been playing trying to get the orleans site but it is hit or miss. If you are in buffalo the genesee site should be doable for you.
 

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OP here. I was able to return the BCD325 and purchased a SDS100 which should be here by Wednesday. The batteries and charger I bought I was also able to return and I purchased an extra battery for the SDS100 along with the charger. It did wind up costing almost double for the SDS100 and accessories but if I have a hard time understanding what is being said on the first scanner then there isn't any point to try to listen.
I took a look at some youtube videos and it looks like the SDS100 is easier to program then the BCD325 was. Is it worth it to buy the Proscan program or just use the buttons on the scanner?
I really appreciate the help I got from this board. I wish I had known about this board before I made any purchases but everything has it learning curve. Back in the 90's when I was in the market for a new computer program I would take a look at the paper manual that came with it and if it was 1+ inches thick I would usually not buy the program.
One other question. I noticed that it looks like the antenna on the SDS screws into the top of the unit. If I wanted to attach the antenna that I have in the attic is there an adapter to allow me to attach it to the radio? My cable has a BNC connector on it.
I will post back after I have it up and running. Thanks again to all.
 

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OP here. I was able to return the BCD325 and purchased a SDS100 which should be here by Wednesday. The batteries and charger I bought I was also able to return and I purchased an extra battery for the SDS100 along with the charger. It did wind up costing almost double for the SDS100 and accessories but if I have a hard time understanding what is being said on the first scanner then there isn't any point to try to listen.
I took a look at some youtube videos and it looks like the SDS100 is easier to program then the BCD325 was. Is it worth it to buy the Proscan program or just use the buttons on the scanner?
I really appreciate the help I got from this board. I wish I had known about this board before I made any purchases but everything has it learning curve. Back in the 90's when I was in the market for a new computer program I would take a look at the paper manual that came with it and if it was 1+ inches thick I would usually not buy the program.
One other question. I noticed that it looks like the antenna on the SDS screws into the top of the unit. If I wanted to attach the antenna that I have in the attic is there an adapter to allow me to attach it to the radio? My cable has a BNC connector on it.
I will post back after I have it up and running. Thanks again to all.
the sds-100 is a great scanner and hopefully the last one any of use will buy. The antenna connector takes a male SMA connector. They sell the adapters and cables on amazon. You will need a BNC to SMA male connector/cable. The sds-100 has a female SMA connector. In reference to program it do not try to manually program it by hand. All you will do is cramp your hands and probably type in something stupid wrong by a decimal and not hear anything. The niagara cty system and others like it have quite a bit of info that needs to be programmed into it. I can email you my favorites list if you want. Just use the uniden sentinel software which is free to program it. Just import the favorites list i send u into the sentinel program and write to your scanner. I have had the sds-100 for 18 months and spent a lot of time creating my lists. I have a favorites list for each county in WNY. My niagara cty list has over 2000 unit ids. My genesse cty list is at 900 unit ids so you get the picture. The one nice feature of these digital radio systems is when they key the mic the unit id number is also transmitted. The SDS-100 will receive and display the unit id number. The list i have shows name of the unit transmitting. So for niagara cty dispatch which uses numbers like 911100, 911101,911102 and so on my scanner says the word "DISPATCH". You get the idead
 

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ProScan is very good but you can try the free Uniden Sentinel first. Front panel programming is tedious at best. Sentinel is fairly easy to use.

You need a special adapter for a BNC connector: SMA/BNC ANTENNA ADAPTER Uniden BCD396T BCD396XT BCD436HP HOME PATROL 675+ sold! | eBay

Other sources are also available but the ad is correct about avoid the other type or you risk stressing and damaging the antenna connector on the radio.

The SDS scanners do have issues with poor selectivity and overload if you are in an area with high signal level from nearby transmitters. That is why I need to use my 436 and 536 for everything except P25 simulcast. If you are not near busy transmitter sites you may be OK. Search on here for extensive discussions in the past about the SDS issues.

The SDS100 runs fairly hot and that is normal. Even the larger battery pack now furnished is a bit limited in run time. Best to use the setting that turns off the display while scanning if you are running on the battery.
 

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ProScan is very good but you can try the free Uniden Sentinel first. Front panel programming is tedious at best. Sentinel is fairly easy to use.

You need a special adapter for a BNC connector: SMA/BNC ANTENNA ADAPTER Uniden BCD396T BCD396XT BCD436HP HOME PATROL 675+ sold! | eBay

Other sources are also available but the ad is correct about avoid the other type or you risk stressing and damaging the antenna connector on the radio.

The SDS scanners do have issues with poor selectivity and overload if you are in an area with high signal level from nearby transmitters. That is why I need to use my 436 and 536 for everything except P25 simulcast. If you are not near busy transmitter sites you may be OK. Search on here for extensive discussions in the past about the SDS issues.

The SDS100 runs fairly hot and that is normal. Even the larger battery pack now furnished is a bit limited in run time. Best to use the setting that turns off the display while scanning if you are running on the battery.
I looked on Ebay and the adapter you linked to is there, but the seller says that he will not guarantee that it will work with a SDS100. Also it would be nice to get an antenna to attach to the BNC connector so it would not be necessary to remove the adapter every time I want to go mobile with it. Is there some place that sells the connector and the antenna?
 

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Good catch! Sorry, I may have sent you the wrong link. It looks like that and I am checking for the correct one. The key is the adapter base screws down flat against the flat raised area around the SDS SMA connect so it takes any strain placed on the connection. If you attach an SMA antenna or cable direct to the SDS100 connector any side strain can break the internal connection between the connector and the circuit board.

Any antenna made for the SDS100 has a flat surface on the connector that matches the surface on the radio and takes the strain. One you get the proper adapter, you can then use any BNC antenna or cable with no problem.
 

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I strongly recommend AGAINST using that unless you are very careful for the reasons I described in my reply to the OP. The coax jumper is less risky than the direct adapters shown in that ad but you still have to be careful. If you drop the radio or anything roughly jerks the cable you are in trouble. The direct adapters are very bad if you attach a long rubber antenna and snag it on anything.

I speak from 60 years experience servicing 2-way radios and have seen too many damaged portables where someone used an improper adapter.
The stock rubber antennas are made with a base to take the strain. Any commercial quality radio with a BNC connector is usually OK with a good flexible jumper but not some of the very long ham antennas on the market.
 
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