This is what I programmed into my SDS 100 from the RR database. Yes I have the DMR option downloaded into my scanner , but I am not hearing NWW. I am new to DMR so I may have done something wrong.
North Wildwood PD
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captaincab
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So none of the wildwoods are on conventional now correct I believe Wildwood and Wildwood crest are on njics right?
As of two days ago when I left Cape May Wildwood PD was still conventional analog on 154.965. Wildwood Crest switched to NJICS I believe a couple of years ago. Cape May, Wildwood and Sea Isle City are the only remaining beach town PD's in the county still on analog high band VHF.
captaincab
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I am guessing Wildwood will switch soon then. I know in the old vhf days they also talked to each other when needed so I assume Wildwood will switch soon for this reason unless the other towns kept the vhf radios for interop same as fire does.
Unfortunately, now the Wildwoods are on three different systems - Crest on NJICS - Wildwood VHF Hi and North Wildwood on DMR UHF - so now the process is more confused than before. New radios cost money.
sounds like the area up here....for anyone familiar with the Ringwood, Wanaque, Bloomingdale, and immediate area.
Ringwood on VHF analog- Hi
West Milford- Low Band
Oakland-NJICS
Wanaque UHF analog
Bloomingdale DMR UHF
Pequannock DMR UHF
Wayne P25 TRS
Pompton Lakes/Riverdale- analog UHF
These are towns all within 10-15 miles of each other.
Funny thing is years ago these towns all shared 2 lowband channels. Albeit a bit much depending who you ask, everything was all together.
You can only fit so many radios in a car. And dispatch can only monitor so much...
1, have a few mutual channels all towns have in their radios(or dispatch has at least). By default, it’s usually analog channels.
If a BOLO or something comes out around here, the 911 center in Pompton multicasts on 471(their main channel), Wanaque’s, and SPEN. Every immediate and surrounding area has all of those, or at the very least some combination of 1 of those frequencies. So the info “gets out.” Just differently now.
2. Dispatch has to pick up the phone. And yes that takes time, info lost, etc.
3. Dispatch has the other towns frequencies. Even if the officers themselves don’t, that’s how info goes out up here. Pompton 911 goes directly onto Wanaque’s frequencies and gives them whatever they need.
This is just a glimpse of what it looks like in the Passaic/Bergen/Morris border area. Not saying this is right or wrong, just giving you an idea of how agencies who are literally all over the place(location and frequencies) make it work.
Yep so much for interoperability.
When I first began monitoring around 1970 before scanners our local PD was on 37.38 along with the Bergen County Police Dept as well as several other local PD's in the county. My first radio was a Lafayette multiband portable with poor selectivity so while tuned to 37.38 I was able to also listen to Riverdale, Pequannock, I believe Pompton Lakes and other towns on 37.30. Ultimately our town switched to 37.08 so all towns on Route 17 from Hohokus to Mahwah shared the same frequency which was great for interoperability. Now with each town on a separate frequency by the time one dispatcher calls another about a fleeing felon the culprit is probably 2 to 3 towns away.
Now those towns are all UHF/VHF P25 Conventional with Saddle River the only hold out on analog UHF.
jaymatt1978
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North Wildwood going to DMR UHF is an absolute head scratcher. I understand towns joining the NJICS and even Stone Harbor going VHF DMR, however the county is heavily pushing the NJICS System
That is what sales people get paid for - to sell product and convince the customer that their solution is better. Obviously North Wildwood believed the hype and got sold something that will not work with everyone else.
I'm currently picking up North Wildwood here loud and clear,displaying as DMR Tier 3.
wa3bxw
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It was an in building coverage issue which prompted their move. After 2 years of testing with UHF portables the coverage was much improved over VHF, both mobile and portable. The system is not yet completed, the second frequency is not in use yet, communications will only get better in the future weeks.
Wow another Police group that moved to DMR. I listen to a couple, does not seem to be as good as other networks, but it does mean less people listening, even in the days of P25.
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