NX-5000 Series, Q&A, Info, and details

[Jay911]

I guess you can discount the last two posts (and this one) because I seem to have cleared up the issue, but I have no idea why it works like it does.

With the scan option in Scan List mode, and Secondary Priority set to NONE, I am not hearing the replies from the dispatcher (over ISSI) to native (on-system) calls. Consistently. Callers from the system (i.e. two portable radios, a portable and mobile, etc) work fine. It is NEVER the native call that is missed, it is ALWAYS the dispatch call. If the dispatcher speaks long enough that the hang-time of the scan ends and the radio resumes scanning, it will immediately pick up the dispatcher's conversation (late entry) and play it.

If I change Secondary Priority to Operator Select, the dispatcher's comms come in like normal, like all these radios did with fw 2.50. That's the part I don't understand.

I had someone suggest to me that when set to NONE, the radio is possibly checking priority (or not) and misses the dispatcher's continuation message, but I'm not sure how much I buy that idea because I would think it would happen much more intermittently and it wouldn't always be the dispatcher that was missed.

So long as it's working now, I guess we can chalk it up to gremlins or voodoo magic or something.

 

[kd4efm]

If you can write it up, and supply me with a codeplug, I can send it to TS and have it investigated.

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[redbeard]

Curious how the multi-deck option works when you are on a multi-band TRS. We may be switching to the new state system which is primarily VHF/800. Is there logic to roam between V/8 with the same RID?

 

[kd4efm]

Curious how the multi-deck option works when you are on a multi-band TRS. We may be switching to the new state system which is primarily VHF/800. Is there logic to roam between V/8 with the same RID?

No. Not really, both radios would be assigned thier own id, no way to automatically change bands, just both could be logged in at the same time.


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[KK6ZTE]

That's the disadvantage to operating each radio individually like Kenwood does (Which is an advantage to some people).

It would be beneficial to be able to switch to a mode (like we already have personality/zone-channel) that is similar the older TK-790/890 combination where you can mix channels and zones--ie make the control head do the signalling and control logic while each deck focuses strictly on RF. Make it similar to the APX 7500/8500 where you can mix and match bands in a single zone and have seamless multi-band TRS operation.

I know of a couple lost sales where the client preferred the APX style operation because it makes it easy for the operator. Many people don't need to monitor two frequencies at once, they just need to be able to click over one channel between Fire and Medcom.

 

[WillB]

Dumb question but does the KMC 41 speaker mic work with the NX 5200 series ?

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[Jay911]

What my local rep has told me about that combination is that it'll work but you will not have noise reduction capabilities. I picked up a batch of KMC54s and told my guys to keep the old mics on the old radios.

 

[WillB]

What my local rep has told me about that combination is that it'll work but you will not have noise reduction capabilities. I picked up a batch of KMC54s and told my guys to keep the old mics on the old radios.

I have a 2180 with the KMC 41 in my radio strap at the station. If they both work it would make it easier for me so I dont have to switch speaker mics or get a second radio strap


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[WillB]

Another dumb question. Does it come from Kenwood with p25 Phase 1 already enabled or do I have to buy the upgrade to get P25?

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[mmckenna]

Another dumb question. Does it come from Kenwood with p25 Phase 1 already enabled or do I have to buy the upgrade to get P25?

Analog and NXDN are included. P25 and/or DMR is not.
To get P25 Phase 1 capability, you would need to purchase the following license keys:
KWD-5100CV P25 conventional.
KWD-5101TR P25 Phase 1 Trunking

 

[bondo_06092]

Ran across this the other day, how does one make a custom splash/bootup screen for the 5000 series?

 

[Jay911]

My machine with KPG-D1 is packed up right now but it's one of the last items in the menu tree IIRC in Optional Features 1, as Evans says below. You can specify an image file from your computer and it's sent when you write to the radio. I have our fire department's logo on our bootup screens.

 

[kd4efm]

Ran across this the other day, how does one make a custom splash/bootup screen for the 5000 series?View attachment 71052

MS paint. It's nothing special, I overlaid the text on the sample mobile.

Its entered under options 1 power up.

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[mmckenna]

Yeah, it's just a bitmap file. Easy to do. You can do that on many of the newer Kenwood models.

 

[AJ1L]

You just have to make sure they're the right size.
For the KCH-20, it's 400x240 pixels
KCH-19: 422x154
KCH-21 and Portable: 240x180

 

[KO3Q]

Nice screen capture!

I bought my dual deck setup from Evans Mitchell, and he sent it to me with the bitmap. How’s that for service?

Malcolm
KO3Q

 

[AJ1L]

I've decided to try cutting the number of ham DMR channels in my radio down by just making one channel for each time slot of the repeater, and set a group button to select the talkgroup I want to use. Unfortunately when I tried this, the selected TG just seemed to hold for the first transmission, and then it changed back to the TG that the channel was originally set for. Is there a setting that will make it hold on on the selected TG? I'm running the latest 3.10 firmware, and have been since I made the change to my programming, so I'm not sure if it's a bug in the firmware or not. Is anyone else here selecting TGs this way rather than take up a channel for each one?

 

[kd4efm]

You have the rest timer too short....

Check that setting and adjust it to your needs.

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[wx5uif]

Ohhh.. 3.10?! Time to try to pester my dealer for an update....

 

[Jay911]

Interestingly enough 3.10 fixed a problem one of my radios had with connecting to a P25 system. Radio would not even attempt to affiliate, despite having been programmed and tested on the system a week or two earlier. Both I and my radio shop tried new codeplugs, changing radio IDs (confirming the RID was not inhibited in the system, etc), and it was ready to be sent to Kenwood for repair when 3.10 dropped. The shop tech pushed the new firmware in and the radio woke right up.