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NXR1700-E programming

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Anyone familiar with programming one of these beasties?

I have the computer connected to the repeater nic to nic, but it won't connect. Computer is setup to the same IP subnet as repeater.
 
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Do you have the network interface on the PC set up to talk to it directly:

The default IP setting as the factory shipping condition is as follows.

• IP Address: 192.168.0.1

• Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0

• Default Gateway: 192.168.0.254
 
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ya. Do I need a crossover cable....the instructions I found on the web said connect nic to nic, but nothing about using crossover
 
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use a hub between pc and 1700
 
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19sargeusmc56 said:
ya. Do I need a crossover cable....the instructions I found on the web said connect nic to nic, but nothing about using crossover
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You don't need a cross over cable. Direct PC to repeater should work. Adding a hub will work, also.

If you can ping it, then you are connected. I'd look at the repeater firmware version and the KPG-D7N version and make sure they are happy.

You might also be able to point your web browser at it and connect that way, but you cannot program through the web interface. But it's been a few years since I set ours up.
 
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If you are on your own home network, make sure nothing else is using that same IP address.
In other words, make sure it is actually the repeater acknowledging the ping, and not something else. Pointing your web browser at the IP address would tell you for sure.
 
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From the manual:

2.1.3.2 Connection procedure


(1) Connect the repeater to the PC using the ethernet cable.
(2) When power is applied, the repeater enters the user mode after completed the startup sequences.
(3) Depends on the type of communication with PC, the repeater may communicate with keeping user mode,otherwise the repeater may get out from the user mode e.g.

Reading FPU data: Keeps the user mode​
Writing FPU data: Gets out from the user mode ​
PC test mode: Gets in Test Mode with “Test Mode” on the OLED display.​


Note:
• The FPU data trying to write into the repeater must match the model type and Software option.​
• If the USB-LAN adapter is used, the communication may fail. It is recommended to use it via HUB.​


2.1.3.3 Ethernet cable description
(As PC programming interface cable)
The commercial ethernet cable is required to interface the repeater to the PC.
2.1.3.4 Programming software KPG-D7 (Ver. 2.00 or later)

description

The FPU is the programming software for the repeater. This software runs under Windows 10 or 11 on a PC.

The data can be created on the PC as new file or edited based on the saved data/the data read from the repeater. The programmed or edited data can be printed out. It is also possible to tune the repeater.

The default IP setting as the factory shipping condition is as follows.

• IP Address: 192.168.0.1​
• Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0​
• Default Gateway: 192.168.0.254​
 
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I'm pinging the device. If I disconnect the cable, I can't ping it no more. In spite of being able to ping it, can't browse into it, and cannot read it with the software.
 
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mmckenna said:
From the manual:

2.1.3.2 Connection procedure


(1) Connect the repeater to the PC using the ethernet cable.
(2) When power is applied, the repeater enters the user mode after completed the startup sequences.
(3) Depends on the type of communication with PC, the repeater may communicate with keeping user mode,otherwise the repeater may get out from the user mode e.g.

Reading FPU data: Keeps the user mode​
Writing FPU data: Gets out from the user mode ​
PC test mode: Gets in Test Mode with “Test Mode” on the OLED display.​


Note:
• The FPU data trying to write into the repeater must match the model type and Software option.​
• If the USB-LAN adapter is used, the communication may fail. It is recommended to use it via HUB.​


2.1.3.3 Ethernet cable description
(As PC programming interface cable)
The commercial ethernet cable is required to interface the repeater to the PC.
2.1.3.4 Programming software KPG-D7 (Ver. 2.00 or later)

description

The FPU is the programming software for the repeater. This software runs under Windows 10 or 11 on a PC.

The data can be created on the PC as new file or edited based on the saved data/the data read from the repeater. The programmed or edited data can be printed out. It is also possible to tune the repeater.

The default IP setting as the factory shipping condition is as follows.

• IP Address: 192.168.0.1​
• Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0​
• Default Gateway: 192.168.0.254​
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No joy....Is this excerpt from the service manual? Just found it online
 
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Newest firmware requires you to enable "Remote Access" and change some settings from the web UI, before the repeater can be programmed.
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Once you get into the web UI, go to Maintenance -> System -> Security -> KPG-D7 Programming Software. You'll need to set a password, then should be able to program the repeater.
 
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emacs said:
Newest firmware requires you to enable "Remote Access" and change some settings from the web UI, before the repeater can be programmed.
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Thanks, kind of forgot about that in the update. That sounds like it'll solve the issue. But that's an annoying setup. I've got a few of these in remote locations on solar power, and accessing them can take an entire day. I've got some other issues with their firmware, I'll have to mention this….
 
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Won't connect means just that......but I got it after EMACS posted the procedure.
 
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emacs said:
Newest firmware requires you to enable "Remote Access" and change some settings from the web UI, before the repeater can be programmed.
View attachment 201809

Once you get into the web UI, go to Maintenance -> System -> Security -> KPG-D7 Programming Software. You'll need to set a password, then should be able to program the repeater.
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Dude......holycrap. Where is this procedure documented? No flippin' way I'm gonna remember all that for next time!!
 
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As dapaq2 said it’s documented in a service bulletin on Kenwood MyTools. Can also find the info alongside the latest firmware release on MyTools. Not the most intuitive setup process!
 
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Needed equipment is
Service Monitor with format used in repeater.
Service Monitor with tracking generator to tune duplexers.
Watt Meter to test power out of repeater power out of duplexers and swr from antenna system
 
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