Oakland, NJ

[APX8000]

They will no go permanent on that talkgroup. They'll either join one of the existing PD DISP talkgroups (if so, most likely with Wyckoff/Midland Park if they go County dispatch) or become the next PD DISP 10 or whatever.

 

[cr8054]

If the move happens, I doubt it will be that specific TG anyway. I’d imagine one the decision is made(if it does end up being a permanent move to BC) they’ll have their own dedicated TG, or if another nearby agency is on/joins, they’ll share. I believe interops are used for backup, testing, or if 2 departments share a dispatch(ie MP/Wyckoff) if a big event takes up the comms, the other agency can move there.
Yeah Franklin Lakes has been UHF conventional for almost 15 years I think. Or close to it.

Franklin Lakes is digital. Its interesting hearing digital frequencies. Sometimes they are crystal clear and sometimes its so badly distorted that cannot make out what they are saying, Oakland went back to NJICS TG 4915 this weekend. The simulcast is still mirrored on 45.98. I did pick up bits and pieces on the digital frequency. I noticed that the transmissions on the NJICS frequencies were lagging behind the transmissions on 45.98. Thats kind of odd. Shouldn't the transmission on analog frequency lag behind the digital transmission? Could it be that Oakland's dispatcher and police cruisers are transmitting and receiving on 45.98 and then converted and transmitted on NJICS? Could this be preparation to consolidate dispatching. Railroads are dispatched remotely. Microwave transmissions from the dispatchers are transmitted to repeaters and then converted to VHF high (160.215-161.565) the process is reversed from locomotives to dispatchers. It seems like the railroads have their communications pretty well ironed out. Some railroads like the NYSW and NJ Transit prefer high power repeaters in one to two locations so its very easy to hear their dispatchers. Other railroads like Norfolk Southern, Conrail, and CSX prefer lower power repeaters but have more repeater locations. Thus its hard to hear the dispatcher unless you are close to one of their railroad lines. Of course they have had many years to figure what works and they are not switching to digital just yet. It looks like they ever do, they will be using NXDN.

 

[APX8000]

They transmit and receive on the trunked system. Don't know what else you're trying to figure out.

 

[asnhnetwork]

Franklin Lakes is digital. Its interesting hearing digital frequencies. Sometimes they are crystal clear and sometimes its so badly distorted that cannot make out what they are saying, Oakland went back to NJICS TG 4915 this weekend. The simulcast is still mirrored on 45.98. I did pick up bits and pieces on the digital frequency. I noticed that the transmissions on the NJICS frequencies were lagging behind the transmissions on 45.98. Thats kind of odd. Shouldn't the transmission on analog frequency lag behind the digital transmission? Could it be that Oakland's dispatcher and police cruisers are transmitting and receiving on 45.98 and then converted and transmitted on NJICS? Could this be preparation to consolidate dispatching. Railroads are dispatched remotely. Microwave transmissions from the dispatchers are transmitted to repeaters and then converted to VHF high (160.215-161.565) the process is reversed from locomotives to dispatchers. It seems like the railroads have their communications pretty well ironed out. Some railroads like the NYSW and NJ Transit prefer high power repeaters in one to two locations so its very easy to hear their dispatchers. Other railroads like Norfolk Southern, Conrail, and CSX prefer lower power repeaters but have more repeater locations. Thus its hard to hear the dispatcher unless you are close to one of their railroad lines. Of course they have had many years to figure what works and they are not switching to digital just yet. It looks like they ever do, they will be using NXDN.

Not sure you know what your talking about as the NYS&W is simplex on 160.485 and no repeaters are involved. They have satellite receivers and transmitters. NJ Transit Rail is simplex as well except the Light Rail systems which operate on the trunk system.

 

[K2NEC]

At this point this thread is like an infinite loop. Is there any reason it's being kept open? Not to mention OP manged to derail the topic of his own thread.

 

[NParkNJ]

In closing if there was to be one, at this point its pretty well established Oakland has been back and forth between NJICS and Bergen County’s TRS. I think we should let this thread go and wait until we observe(or hear from someone) a definite change has been implemented or decided.

 

[cr8054]

I would like to thank everyone for all their help. I have taken your advice and purchased a Uniden BCD436HP and it works with the simulcast very well. Its weird as there is a second or so lag between the 45.98 frequency and the simulcast. Other than that, the problem is solved. I am not sure if I want to sell the Whistler or leave it in the car for scanning the railroads when I am out and about with my railroad photography. Once again, thanks for all your help!!

 

[wtp]

you can never have too many radios !

 

[tvengr]

Its weird as there is a second or so lag between the 45.98 frequency and the simulcast.

That is normal. It takes time to encode and decode digital signals. Analog is instantaneous. When TV was analog, we could feed line or air audio to IFB for the earpieces the reporters used for live shots. They could hear the air audio in the earpieces and the director or producer could interrupt that audio and speak to them. When TV went digital, the reporters would hear an echo of themselves which is very disconcerting. We had to feed what is known as a mix-minus where the reporters hear everything except themselves. We also had to use mix-minus for satellite live shots due to the transmission delay time.

 

[wtp]

she might be waiting for the translation of that, tvengr...