OFFICIAL NYSEG P25 System Thread

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rja1

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I wonder if this system will be built downstate into Dutchess and Putnam as well. So far, a search of the FCC database shows NYSEG still on 48 MHz

Putnam-Westchester is definately on the Motorola VHF digital TRS. 48.32 Mhz has been dead for several weeks. I have a contact at NYSEG trying to get any info he can get his hands on. Will post anything I get hold of.


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Interesting system. I am about 50 miles north of Ogdensburg, and
when propogation is enhanced, have heard a P25 CC on ~152.05
which I now assume is 152.0525; and recently "heard" P25 voice on
~152.55 which I assume is 152.5475.

With no P25 capability (haven't been able to get UniTrunker to work
yet) it's only a guess that the above is NYSEG. Another confusing aspect
is the new Quebec RENIR P25 system (north/east of me) which uses
frequencies in the same range (as well as 140's and 160's). So far, these
appear to be on 15kHz grid, whereas NYSEG is on new 7.5kHz channels.

BTW is (was?) 48.700 an old NYSEG channel? I heard stuff on there
but going back a few years; will check again. Checked Dave's website
under counties and statewide, didn't see it listed.

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Quebec systems shouldn't confuse New Yorkers too much. The radio traffic being in French is a pretty good clue. :)
 

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Quebec systems shouldn't confuse New Yorkers too much. The radio traffic being in French is a pretty good clue. :)

Naturally. I was referring to "hearing" P25 on a non-P25 scanner. One of these
years perhaps I will go digital, but frankly besides OPP around here there is not
that much to listen to that I find interesting, and I had more fun listening to
them on 42MHz (two systems ago...).

RENIR is not very active yet, so all that's heard most of the time is CCs.

Dave
 
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Inspiration has struck!

Some of the NYSEG sites have been giving us their locations all along!

Those "bogus" IDs are abbreviations for the tower sites.

AUS = Austerlitz
HOOS = Hoosick
MOTO = Mount Tom?

Everybody, go back to your PRO96COM files and pull out those "callsigns" and post them here.
 
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I have updated the NYSEG system page at the NF2G Scannist Pages. There is a little information there that was not in the compilation posted earlier in this thread.

Direct link: http://nf2g.com/scannist/0269.html

I am looking for some specific data:

1) Tower numbers for the sites that are outside my listening range.

2) "Callsign" information transmitted by each site. This can establish the location of each tower.

3) More talkgroups.

4) Information about which sites are carrying which talkgroups.

5) We have accounted for a little more than half of the planned 51 sites, so the hunt for new towers is still on.

You may submit further info here, or if you prefer to remain more anonymous, you may email to feedback at nf2g dot com.
 
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I should have mentioned this earlier.
I've heard a number of I-Calls related to setting up and testing this system.

Also:
Talk Groups 128 & 228 sound like radio repair type communications. Discussing signal strength, battery life, flashing radios, trunk system etc.

Rich
 
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Dave, I did send this data to you via email but it might have gotten lost. The tower files have callsigns for three towers, two of which are not on your web page. The talkgroups I hear generally do not give any clue as to what the company or service area is. Tower 102 has a real FCC callsign and looks to be located in Shandaken, judging by proximity to my location.
 
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Just a thought...

Isn't it neat that a private company can put up a fairly geographically large P25 trunked system that will be supporting a decent amount of voice and data users for 1% of the cost of SWIN.
 

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Hello,

I am going to be in Central New York State next week so I will keep an radio out for new information. I should have checked to see if any Northeastern NY State sites were on when I went up to Montreal. I went through Plattsburgh on the way back.

73 Eric
 

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Just a thought...

Isn't it neat that a private company can put up a fairly geographically large P25 trunked system that will be supporting a decent amount of voice and data users for 1% of the cost of SWIN.

Agreed, though NYSEG doesn't have the channel capacity, which would drive the cost higher. Any which way though I agree, it could be done for much less than $2B, but that would take cooperation between state and locals.
 
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Dave, I did send this data to you via email but it might have gotten lost. The tower files have callsigns for three towers, two of which are not on your web page. The talkgroups I hear generally do not give any clue as to what the company or service area is. Tower 102 has a real FCC callsign and looks to be located in Shandaken, judging by proximity to my location.

I didn't receive the email, and the file I downloaded from your link is described as "invalid" by WinZip.
 

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I used Windows instead of Winrar to zip the files this time. Hope it works better for you.
 
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Sorry to say, but WinZip v11.2 (licensed) persists in reporting "Cannot open file: it does not appear to be a valid archive."
 

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Here are the unzipped files. When downloading the zip from the forum I get a file that is corrupted too. The source file on my PC is ok so it must be something with RR.
 

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NYSEG new P25 trunking system

Don't know if this is part of the new system you are talking about, I was doing a search with my 396t scanner with cc-control channel only turned on and this is what I am picking up, it's 12.30 am and skip is comming in loud, In Fort Erie Ontario Canada
159.900 LTR System
152.320 LTR System
152.500 SID: 0269H-0136
153.200 SID: 0269H-0110
153.275 SID: 0269H-0116
Steve
 
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Yes, the last three are part of the NYSEG system. Thanks for the additions!
 

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New System

Yes, the last three are part of the NYSEG system. Thanks for the additions!

OK Dave, I'm running my scanner and ARC396PRO software to see if I can log any audio on any of the talkgroups, if I find anything I'll let everyone know, When I get back in a cople of hours I'll try and set up the UniTunker program on my computer and see if I can get any information on the system with Unitrunker today, if I do I will share and post any information on this post/thread.
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I have found TGID 121 on three different sites. I initially thought that either the system is simulcasting or that units are able to roam between sites.

It now appears to be possible that TGIDs are re-used. I need to find a way to watch two sites simultaneously. Every time I try to get a Windows-capable laptop for my station, I run into hardware problems.
 
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