Offset or RX vs TX

[Bouncer]

Does this site not display the offsets or separate the RX Frequency from the TX frequencies? I like how, in most cases, it provides the Tone, but in this case: Garfield County, Oklahoma (OK) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference it just lists the frequency, I will assume RX since it isnt listed. But wheres the offset or TX Freq?

 

[KevinC]

Does this site not display the offsets or separate the RX Frequency from the TX frequencies? I like how, in most cases, it provides the Tone, but in this case: Garfield County, Oklahoma (OK) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference it just lists the frequency, I will assume RX since it isnt listed. But wheres the offset or TX Freq?

I believe the inputs are available to premium subscribers only.

 

[nd5y]

You can click on the callsigns (License column) and see the input frequencies in the FCC license data.

 

[Bouncer]

You can click on the callsigns (License column) and see the input frequencies in the FCC license data.

Sorry, I dont see the "FCC License Data" on this page clicking on the call sign... And I dont see any input freqs on the page at all...

 

[a417]

Sorry, I dont see the "FCC License Data" on this page clicking on the call sign... And I dont see any input freqs on the page at all...

this is the page that I see when I click on the link that was posted prior, do you see something different?

The blue text (this is a pic, and is not clickable) in the License column are links, and they will bring up the FCC license with the inputs.

 

[wtp]

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it is what pops up when clicking the show repeater input box

 

[Bouncer]

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this is the page that I see when I click on the link that was posted prior, do you see something different?

The blue text (this is a pic, and is not clickable) in the License column are links, and they will bring up the FCC license with the inputs.

No, I see the same thing... But As Ive stated above I dont see the "FCC License Data" on this page clicking on the call sign... And I dont see any input freqs on the page at all... If YOU see Input frequencies, and as @wtp and @KevinC stated, then you must be a premium member as I didnt know you had to be a premium member before they chimed in...

 

[a417]

No, I see the same thing... But As Ive stated above I dont see the "FCC License Data" on this page clicking on the call sign... And I dont see any input freqs on the page at all... If YOU see Input frequencies, and as @wtp and @KevinC stated, then you must be a premium member as I didnt know you had to be a premium member before they chimed in...

I am not a premium subscriber, sorry.

The input frequencies are listed at the bottom of the page that pops up, under the "MO" class usually with >1 in the "UNITS" column.

 

[Bouncer]

I am not a premium subscriber, sorry.

The input frequencies are listed at the bottom of the page that pops up, under the "MO" class usually with >1 in the "UNITS" column.

Thanks for your reply @a417 . I guess I'm not seeing what you're seeing.... When referencing the link above, and for example, say I want to click on the call sign KKA253 (Enid PD), I am redirected to this page: FCC Callsign KKA253 (Enid Police Department Enid/Garfield County 911 Communications Center) and Im not seeing the column ""MO" class usually with >1 in the "UNITS"" you referenced or that of which are clickable for a drop down...

 

[a417]

There is no column called "column ""MO" class usually with >1 in the "UNITS". I left some punctuation out that made you think there was a column with that name. Silly me.



Class = MO
Units = 160

They are licensed for 160 radios in Location 4, at 110 watts ERP. Those 4 frequencies on the left are most likely the inputs. The frequencies higher up in that image (that I clipped away to avoid ongoing confusion) with the ERPs >200w are the outputs. If you notice, frequencies are duplicated between classes & locations.

If you were a premium subscriber, I believe they coordinate which input goes to which output for you. I'm not. Don't know. If you were so inclined, and could recieve those channels locally, you could find out in very short order which goes with which.

Repeated channels are coordinated and offsets can vary based on each license application, it's not like 800 or 900 bands where offsets are hardcoded into the radios.

If you needed the inputs for authorized use, you should be able to contact the system administrator to find out which input goes with which output. If you're just looking to scan away, the information is right there. A little bit of work can lead you to the correct pairing. Listening to repeater inputs is usually much harder, and will result in you hearing less than you would if you were on the repeater output.

 

[west-pac]

Here's my opinion. If someone can look at the information point blank, and still don't understand what they're looking at, then they likely have no legitimate reason for wanting to know that information. That's likely why it got moved to paying customers only.

 

[Bouncer]

There is no column called "column ""MO" class usually with >1 in the "UNITS". I left some punctuation out that made you think there was a column with that name. Silly me.

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Class = MO
Units = 160

They are licensed for 160 radios in Location 4, at 110 watts ERP. Those 4 frequencies on the left are most likely the inputs. The frequencies higher up in that image (that I clipped away to avoid ongoing confusion) with the ERPs >200w are the outputs. If you notice, frequencies are duplicated between classes & locations.

If you were a premium subscriber, I believe they coordinate which input goes to which output for you. I'm not. Don't know. If you were so inclined, and could recieve those channels locally, you could find out in very short order which goes with which.

Repeated channels are coordinated and offsets can vary based on each license application, it's not like 800 or 900 bands where offsets are hardcoded into the radios.

If you needed the inputs for authorized use, you should be able to contact the system administrator to find out which input goes with which output. If you're just looking to scan away, the information is right there. A little bit of work can lead you to the correct pairing. Listening to repeater inputs is usually much harder, and will result in you hearing less than you would if you were on the repeater output.

Thanks for the roadmap. Sorry, Im just accustomed to TX/RX freqs with their tones back 20 something years ago; even for VHF/UHF information, minor tweeks and you were done, even for those programing softwares that required codeplugs. In fact, it was a simple list and simple programing and didnt have to decipher the units and classes or even the wattage to differentiate between the RX/TX freqs because even becoming a premium subscriber, I'm still looking at the same lists which tells me that neither @wtp or @KevinC know what they are talking about in the way of subscriptions. But that's ok I suppose.

And while I normally do entertain myself with trolls like you @west-pac I wont this time, My reasoning doesn't involve either legitimate or illegitimate entities, which doesn't have anything to do with the original question I originally asked when I did start this thread. Certainly you can find something more productive to do that troll others and their comments and make a mockery out of all of it, all while providing zero helpful advice or suggestions to members (Hence the trolling). But, hey, good luck with that!!

 

[KevinC]

Thanks for the roadmap. Sorry, Im just accustomed to TX/RX freqs with their tones back 20 something years ago; even for VHF/UHF information, minor tweeks and you were done, even for those programing softwares that required codeplugs. In fact, it was a simple list and simple programing and didnt have to decipher the units and classes or even the wattage to differentiate between the RX/TX freqs because even becoming a premium subscriber, I'm still looking at the same lists which tells me that neither @wtp or @KevinC know what they are talking about in the way of subscriptions. But that's ok I suppose.

And while I normally do entertain myself with trolls like you @west-pac I wont this time, My reasoning doesn't involve either legitimate or illegitimate entities, which doesn't have anything to do with the original question I originally asked when I did start this thread. Certainly you can find something more productive to do that troll others and their comments and make a mockery out of all of it, all while providing zero helpful advice or suggestions to members (Hence the trolling). But, hey, good luck with that!!

Ok

 

[KevinC]

As a premium subscriber I see this...



As a non-premium subscriber I see this...



Now tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.

 

[a417]

<snip> I'm still looking at the same lists which tells me that neither @wtp or @KevinC know what they are talking about in the way of subscriptions. But that's ok I suppose.

And while I normally do entertain myself with trolls like you @west-pac I wont this time, My reasoning doesn't involve either legitimate or illegitimate entities, which doesn't have anything to do with the original question I originally asked when I did start this thread. Certainly you can find something more productive to do that troll others and their comments and make a mockery out of all of it, all while providing zero helpful advice or suggestions to members (Hence the trolling). But, hey, good luck with that!!

Glad you found what you are looking for.

 

[GTR8000]

because even becoming a premium subscriber, I'm still looking at the same lists which tells me that neither @wtp or @KevinC know what they are talking about in the way of subscriptions. But that's ok I suppose.

Before you take cheap shots at others, maybe you should first ask how to enable the showing of conventional input frequencies on the RRDB pages by default now that you're a premium subscriber...

RR Home Page > Edit MyRR > Default Input Frequency Display: Shown

Or you could've just ticked the box that says Show Repeater Inputs at the top of every conventional frequency page.

You're welcome.

 

[wtp]

usually the people that tell me i am wrong, are wrong. i just live with it.
and i do miss the tone section for us little guys,
i don't use them, i just miss them.

 

[KevinC]

usually the people that tell me i am wrong, are wrong. i just live with it.
and i do miss the tone section for us little guys,
i don't use them, i just miss them.

Send me $30 and I'll take care of that for you for 360 days.

 

[west-pac]

usually the people that tell me i am wrong, are wrong. i just live with it.
and i do miss the tone section for us little guys,
i don't use them, i just miss them.

I hadn't realized the tone section was gone. I'm sure there are plenty of wiki articles with tones listed for one reason or another.

 

[AK9R]

and i do miss the tone section for us little guys,

I hadn't realized the tone section was gone.

The tones are in the database listings.

I logged out of RadioReference, went to Garfield County OK in the Database, and the "Tone" column is still there.