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belvdr

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Thanks for the tips. I have never done this before so I dont feel like I'm being shot down.
 

ctpd845

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Mike,

I was down in Findlay tonight so I plugged in 461.5625 and picked up an NXDN control channel with a strong signal. So I think it's safe to say that this channel is indeed located in Findlay.
 

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Mike,

I was down in Findlay tonight so I plugged in 461.5625 and picked up an NXDN control channel with a strong signal. So I think it's safe to say that this channel is indeed located in Findlay.

Thanks man. I'll make a submission to the Deltcomm system so that an admin can add the site.

Mike
 

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Is there anyone else in Columbus area to help me with Limited Logistics Con + DMR system? I have made a lot of progress on the Reynoldsburg and New Albany sites but I am having issues with the two sites near Easton Town Center.
 

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Is there anyone else in Columbus area to help me with Limited Logistics Con + DMR system? I have made a lot of progress on the Reynoldsburg and New Albany sites but I am having issues with the two sites near Easton Town Center.

I know I'm asking questions that you didn't want to answer via the PM you sent me. But they are fair questions.

For anyone reading, RakkFO is referencing the following system:

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=9056


  1. Exactly what kind of progress are you having?

    Are the two sites already in the database correct? (all frequencies listed are active, LCN order is correct)? Or are you basically starting completely from scratch with your own sleuthing?
  2. Do you use DSDPlus (after all this thread is about DSDPlus users)?
  3. Do you have any scanners with DMR capabability (or even without) that you can use to help figure out systems?
  4. Do we know for a fact that this is really a Connect Plus trunked system (versus Capacity Plus or something else) ?

The database lists it as a Connect Plus system -- but there is no system ID documented in the DB. Every Connect Plus system has a system ID. I'm wondering if the database entry was added in with no confirmed info.

So first one needs to determine if it is Connect Plus (and let us know the System ID) or Linked Capacity Plus, and then let us know site numbers for each of the sites.

It looks like there are four sites with trunked frequencies, spread across two licenses -- See Google Map .

For some sites, there are frequencies spread across two licenses. Those frequencies for the same site could be the same system, or two different systems.

So we'll start with that, and perhaps you could fill us in on what you use and what you know so far.

That's certainly the best I can do with zero information to go on thus far. Don't depend upon anything you [currently] see in the database for Limited Brands Logistics since it doesn't look to be confirmed data at this point.

Mike
 

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I know I'm asking questions that you didn't want to answer via the PM you sent me. But they are fair questions.

For anyone reading, RakkFO is referencing the following system:

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=9056


  1. Exactly what kind of progress are you having?

    Are the two sites already in the database correct? (all frequencies listed are active, LCN order is correct)? Or are you basically starting completely from scratch with your own sleuthing?
  2. Do you use DSDPlus (after all this thread is about DSDPlus users)?
  3. Do you have any scanners with DMR capabability (or even without) that you can use to help figure out systems?
  4. Do we know for a fact that this is really a Connect Plus trunked system (versus Capacity Plus or something else) ?

The database lists it as a Connect Plus system -- but there is no system ID documented in the DB. Every Connect Plus system has a system ID. I'm wondering if the database entry was added in with no confirmed info.

So first one needs to determine if it is Connect Plus (and let us know the System ID) or Linked Capacity Plus, and then let us know site numbers for each of the sites.

It looks like there are four sites with trunked frequencies, spread across two licenses -- See Google Map .

For some sites, there are frequencies spread across two licenses. Those frequencies for the same site could be the same system, or two different systems.

So we'll start with that, and perhaps you could fill us in on what you use and what you know so far.

That's certainly the best I can do with zero information to go on thus far. Don't depend upon anything you [currently] see in the database for Limited Brands Logistics since it doesn't look to be confirmed data at this point.

Mike

Mr Tindor it is not that I did not want to answer the questions but I took your advice and went to the forums. I have since sent you an email but as you pointed out you are busy and I understand that which is why I respectfully replied thank you and took your advice.

Answers to questions:
1: No the data in the DB is not correct. I need help with the Columbus Sites but I can confirm that nothing for the 002 Reynoldsburg site is accurate at this time. I am starting from scratch but I am about a week into this project so I have a lot of data.
2. I do use DSD+ and I posted to this thread since the help I am looking for probably needs DSD+ to assist. I also intended to make a thread for Limited Logistics (Columbus Ohio) but I am replying to this post instead.
3. Yes I have BCD436HP with all the upgrades
4. No that is not accurate, this system is a CAP+ ("2018/09/04 23:16:27 Current channel is first Cap+ repeater (Ch1 and Ch2)")

I do not know whom submitted the information for the original creation of this system but as of today it is no longer correct. It may have been at one time but not today.

It is not Connect plus and there is no system ID. Site numbers is where I start to need help. The Reynoldsburg site is broadcasting site 7 (which is also the address of the building it lives in), Problem is that when I listen to the New Albany site it broadcasts site 1. There is also a frequency licensed to Reynoldsburg that broadcasts site 1 but I have not captured enough data to say for sure but I don't believe that there is another site located at Reynoldsburg. This rouge frequency is a constant control channel and does not follow the behavior of the other two sites.

I am tracking five locations over four licenses:

Location 1 - Limited HQ (Morse Rd) address is 3 limited Place
Location 2 - Limited DC (Morse Rd) address is 1 limited Place
Location 3 - Limited Easton DC
Location 4 - Limited Reynoldsburg DC
Location 5 - Limited New Albany DC

WPDP435, WPFW257, WPWI463, WQNM954


I agree that the FCC data is a starting point but it is the most complicated system I have worked on. I have no experience with multi-site business set up, I have very limited experience with DMR. All reasons I asked for help.


Reynoldsburg Site 7
LCN 1: 451.8250 CC7
LCN 2: 462.0000 CC7
LCN 3: 464.1000 CC7

New Albany Site 1?
LCN1: 463.5750 CC8
LCN2: 452.2625 CC8

Rouge Frequency's
461.1250 is Channel one of site 1 with CC14 but I dont know where it is located
463.8500 is Channel two of site 1 with CC10 but I dont know where it is located.

The following frequencys are what I am using as my data at this time. Location codes are my own creation to track in scanner and SDR#.

Frequency License Location
451.8250 WPWI463 RNLDS (7LP)
451.8500 WQNM954 RNLDS (7LP)
452.0500 WPWI463 CMH1 (3LP)
452.2625 WQNM954 New Albany
452.3875 WQNM954 New Albany
452.6250 WQNM954 New Albany
452.9750 WPWI463 CMH2 (MC)
461.1250 WPWI463 RNLDS (7LP)
461.5250 WPWI463 CMH1 (3LP)
461.5500 WPWI463 RNLDS (7LP)
461.7250 WQNM954 RNLDS (7LP)
461.7750 WQNM954 CMH1 (3LP)
462.0000 WPWI463 RNLDS (7LP)
462.3750 WPWI463 CMH2 (MC)
463.3250 WQNM954 CMH1 (3LP)
463.5750 WQNM954 New Albany
463.8500 WPWI463 CMH1 (3LP)
464.1000 WQNM954 RNLDS (7LP)
464.2250 WQNM954 RNLDS (7LP)
464.3000 WQNM954 RNLDS (7LP)
464.3250 WQNM954 CMH1 (3LP)
464.5250 WQNM954 RNLDS (7LP)
464.6750 WQNM954 RNLDS (7LP)
464.7750 WPDP435 CMH1 (1LP)
464.8625 WQNM954 New Albany
464.8750 WQNM954 CMH1 (3LP)
464.9750 WQNM954 CMH1 (3LP)



I can offer anyone my DSD files and my SDR# files with data loaded.

Moderators please feel free to make this its own thread I am only using this here since it is a reply to a direct question.
 

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Site 13 is in Findlay

L289-13 ran:13 NL:11 12 14 15

L289-11 cc=517
L289-12 cc=681
L289-14 cc=581
L289-15 cc=715

On i75 by 313 I could get a signal with no antenna
 
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mtindor

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Site 13 is in Findlay

L289-13 ran:13 NL:11 12 14 15

L289-11 cc=517
L289-12 cc=681
L289-14 cc=581
L289-15 cc=715

Thanks man. I appreciate that you and ctpd845 have confirmed this site. I think that lends credence to the notion that the other sites we know about in the 10s are likely in Ohio as well, including Site 11.

I had already submitted this to Deltacom yesterday because I didn't know if ctpd845 had. Hopefully we'll see it added soon.

There are at least 4 radio shops involved in that system. They must have some other name for it, but I've yet to find a hint.

Mike
 

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461.6375 is on the Lima (Allen) license. Any chance you were pulling in Lima and not Wapak?

Mike

I was right in front of the place with no antenna. It is Wapakoneta.

Lima tower has a sign marked clear channel. It look like radio station.

Bluffton was a bare tower with a empty building in front of it.
 
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AtlasFBG2

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Can you tell me what the channel # is when sitting on 461.6375 ? That should show up in the channel number window DSDPLus

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I didn't look at that. I only wrote down what was in the event log window.

It would be different than L289-12 cc=681 ??
 

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I didn't look at that. I only wrote down what was in the event log window.

It would be different than L289-12 cc=681 ??

Probably not. I just don't like speculating that much. How about submitting that to the Deltacomm database if you're confident in the location. Might want to include in the submission the callsign(s) associated with Wapak (and the wapak location geodata) and then specify that although 461.6375 is not on the license, it is on a neighboring site's license -- and that you verified 461.6375 is actually active in Wapak by stopping at the site with the antenna off.

I'm comfortable submitting some things from the forum based upon the observation of others when I didn't observe it myself, but due to the license conflict and the fact that I wasn't the one personally on site, I'm not comfortable submitting it to the DB.

The deltacom DB link is: https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=8091

Thanks

Mike
 

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Probably not. I just don't like speculating that much. How about submitting that to the Deltacomm database if you're confident in the location. Might want to include in the submission the callsign(s) associated with Wapak (and the wapak location geodata) and then specify that although 461.6375 is not on the license, it is on a neighboring site's license -- and that you verified 461.6375 is actually active in Wapak by stopping at the site with the antenna off.

I'm comfortable submitting some things from the forum based upon the observation of others when I didn't observe it myself, but due to the license conflict and the fact that I wasn't the one personally on site, I'm not comfortable submitting it to the DB.

The deltacom DB link is: https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=8091

Thanks

Mike

Could be possible it was 461.54375 and was bleeding over onto 461.6375 ???

I was about 2 miles away when I found the frequency and used dsdplus

If no body else can double check I will recheck next time I am down that way.
 

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WQVK640 Bunge NA (Bellevue OH, Huron Co)

Here is one for you guys. Maybe there is someone up in Huron Co who could check on this.

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?fccCallsign=WQVK640

I'm figuring this is fairly low power (just meant to cover the Bunge NA plant at 605 Goodrich Rd in Bellevue OH). It's probably DMR. The question is whether it is a bunch of standard DMR repeaters or one or more Cap+ systems, a CON+ system, a DMR Tier III system or what.

If you are nearby enough to pick up traffic at this plant at 605 Goodrich Rd, please check the following for either a constant DMR control channel or a Cap+ system or a DMR Tier III system.

451.0875
451.475
452.500
452.525
452.55
452.600
464.25
464.4375

Thanks

Mike
 
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