RedPenguin
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I've been noticing how many radio systems that are currently encrypted and how many are going encrypted. So my question is, even though this may be a simple question, I figured I would ask it anyway.
Do you think those systems will always stay encrypted and never be non-encrypted? I mean, like say, in 10 years a new radio system comes out, they upgrade, and don't choose encryption the next time. Or for some other reason.
Do you think they eventually every single law enforcement/rescue agency will be encrypted or that that just will not happen?
Also, why does it seem like smaller or at least less known areas are going encrypted, yet many of the huge cities, like NYC, are still back on UHF and can be picked up by almost any scanner old or new.
Is there a reason that smaller cities are just in favor of encryption compared to the bigger cities?
Also, what's with TRS in California. Constantly while looking up CA info, I noticed almost everything seemed to be Motorola II SmartZones.
My main idea for this thread is, do you all feel that eventually we will be completely locked out of law enforcement and never be able to know what they are doing at any certain time?
I'm not saying that law enforcement doesn't need encryption for certain stuff, but it seems like many cities are locking down like they are afraid of everybody and anybody.
I can see stake-outs not being in the plain (non-encryption) but a simple traffic stop, they don't even want us to hear now.
Many times they claim that they don't want the criminals/terrorists to figure out where all the police are. It would take a lot of work just to figure out where all the police where, in a place like NYC or something. I think anyway.
I remember when many agencies seemed to love it when people would listen it, like they thought it was cool that the public even cared about the police, I guess they figure no one supports the police anymore and that no one at all should be listening in.
How does anyone else feel about this subject?
EDIT: Many police agencies want or did want good community relations, but isn't it hurting community relations somewhat if the community can't know what the police are doing, kinda making the community a tad bit suspicious of the police at times. It just seems to me like using encryption would just arouse suspicion and make it like someone's hiding something.
I know it's illegal to hack encryption, but what if someone in the law-enforcement agency, actually put his/her legal radio on the net, without breaking the encryption. Is that also illegal?
Also, if a terrorist really wanted to use the radio to find out where the police are, isn't it somewhat possible for them to get a radio, maybe even by stealing one or maybe breaking the encryption. I don't think terrorists care if it's illegal, they got more to worry about.
Do you think those systems will always stay encrypted and never be non-encrypted? I mean, like say, in 10 years a new radio system comes out, they upgrade, and don't choose encryption the next time. Or for some other reason.
Do you think they eventually every single law enforcement/rescue agency will be encrypted or that that just will not happen?
Also, why does it seem like smaller or at least less known areas are going encrypted, yet many of the huge cities, like NYC, are still back on UHF and can be picked up by almost any scanner old or new.
Is there a reason that smaller cities are just in favor of encryption compared to the bigger cities?
Also, what's with TRS in California. Constantly while looking up CA info, I noticed almost everything seemed to be Motorola II SmartZones.
My main idea for this thread is, do you all feel that eventually we will be completely locked out of law enforcement and never be able to know what they are doing at any certain time?
I'm not saying that law enforcement doesn't need encryption for certain stuff, but it seems like many cities are locking down like they are afraid of everybody and anybody.
I can see stake-outs not being in the plain (non-encryption) but a simple traffic stop, they don't even want us to hear now.
Many times they claim that they don't want the criminals/terrorists to figure out where all the police are. It would take a lot of work just to figure out where all the police where, in a place like NYC or something. I think anyway.
I remember when many agencies seemed to love it when people would listen it, like they thought it was cool that the public even cared about the police, I guess they figure no one supports the police anymore and that no one at all should be listening in.
How does anyone else feel about this subject?
EDIT: Many police agencies want or did want good community relations, but isn't it hurting community relations somewhat if the community can't know what the police are doing, kinda making the community a tad bit suspicious of the police at times. It just seems to me like using encryption would just arouse suspicion and make it like someone's hiding something.
I know it's illegal to hack encryption, but what if someone in the law-enforcement agency, actually put his/her legal radio on the net, without breaking the encryption. Is that also illegal?
Also, if a terrorist really wanted to use the radio to find out where the police are, isn't it somewhat possible for them to get a radio, maybe even by stealing one or maybe breaking the encryption. I don't think terrorists care if it's illegal, they got more to worry about.
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