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P25 Conv Software Dispatch

carcarjg

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Hello,
Does anyone know of a software dispatch application that can be used on a P25 conventional system? I've run across a few free ones for DMR.
I just need to see who is talking, receive EMRG calls, and remotely stun/disable/inhibit radios.
 

carcarjg

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Are you the system administrator?
Yes sir I am. The part 90 hasn’t been granted yet and I am just planning and looking into everything and will be happy to supply the application file number.
 

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I don't want/need your application number.

This is the internet.

Why don't you ask the radio shop you are going to be working with if they have any suggested vendors?
 

carcarjg

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I am the radio shop I'm working with. I'm asking on here because we've never worked with any Dispatch software for P25. And the Harris and Moto offerings seem a bit expensive for what we're trying to do.
 

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Nothing is cheap about P25, conventional or trunked. Quite a bit depends on how you plan on interfacing with your infrastructure. Do you want/need console priority, patching capability to other console resources? What console resources are you planning to deploy? Recording interface (AIS versus analog audio), etc.
 

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Dont need patching, dont need priority, Just need a singular console that can receive EMRG calls and remotely stun/disable/inhibit radios. The ability to talk would be a plus but can be left out to save cost.
 

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the ability to "stun and inhibit radios" in a Motorola environment requires a console connected to a core. Who makes your system? P25 isn't DMR. Console capabilities largely depend on the capabilities and configuration as shipped of the core itself. More info is needed. This isn't a "plug and play" operation. Usually an ST or someone experienced with system configuration needs to be present to do the heavy lifting.
 

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It's a harris MastrIII with a p25 dsp module. A few harris m7100's, a few EFJ 5100's and EFJ5300's. And everyone and a while some XTS's and XTL's
 

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It's a harris MastrIII with a p25 dsp module. A few harris m7100's, a few EFJ 5100's and EFJ5300's. And everyone and a while some XTS's and XTL's
Maybe someone from a Harris shop can chime in.
I support and maintain a Motorola 7.1 6(soon to be R2019.2) trunking system. Have 34 MCC7500s spread across 4 dispatch sites.

I cut my teeth on learning the MCC7500s, went to school, bought the ticket- and learned by listening to the veterans. I'd suggest getting with someone locally.

Not knowing ANYTHING about Harris MASTR IIIs, I am sure at minimum, you need some type of connectivity (2wire/4wire or IP?) to the master site and configuration of whatever console(s) you procure. I'm just starting to educate myself on CSSI.
 

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It's more of a hardware solution than a software solution like you originally requested, and also a bit dated, but the Motorola MC2500 deskset wired to an appropriate control station will give you everything you ask for and maybe a little more. I'm not as up to date with the newer MCD5000 desket that is currently offered and supported but I imagine it has similar capabilities if you have the budget and need. A desket, junction box (if you need it) and control station are pretty easy to come by on eBay. The PDF linked below has a list of capabilities and features on the second and third page:

 

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The MC2500 can only enable/inhibit (stun) via MDC, so analog only. It will work on P25 for tx/rx, but nothing more than that.
 

carcarjg

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Sounds like you are building an Ebay trash system the IIIs have been EOL for a number of years, as is most of this other stuff.
That's exactly right. The systems may be EOL but the hardware, software, and manuals are still everywhere. No use throwing something that still works out just to drop a few K on a system that's shiny.
 

carcarjg

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Features that we don't need. 90% of the radios that we have to place in-service on it are of roughly the same age. (2009-2016). The newest radio we have is two APX4000's.
 

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Why don't you ask the radio shop you are going to be working with if they have any suggested vendors?
I see this kind of response often around here by a few people. What is the point of having forums and communities like this one if you can't ask and discuss things like that and only depend on your inside sources or department? That's how people do research for their own department. Your own sources are not infallible or know best all the time. You seem to be trying to police something subliminally...
 
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