Palo Pinto County new trunked system

[nd5y]

ULS Application - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked - 0010227850 - PALO PINTO COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT #1

It looks like 6 site simulcast with only 2 frequency pairs.

 

[WB5UOM]

Wonder what size heliax they plan to use on that first site at 959 feet?
I looked at the FAA site and it does show it to be 959 feet tall.

An ESD owned Tower. goodness.

 

[nd5y]

That tower west of Brazos used to be a FM broadcast station.
I think they either went out of business or moved to another tower and the county bought the tower.

 

[WB5UOM]

That makes perfect sense - still gonna be interesting I think.
Might be fun to watch this.

 

[nd5y]

After I moved away (and never looked back) they got a lot of new radio stuff, or at least licenses. There wasn't an ESD or any money when I lived there. I don't know if they started a sales tax for the ESD or jacked up everybody's property taxes. Maybe they started taxing meth.

 

[mass-man]

I suspect after the numerous range fires in PP county this year, the need for upgraded comms became evident. This is an application by the ESD, not the sheriff. Wonder if the SO will latch onto the new system once it is built out? The administrator is a ham radio operator out there, lives in Gordon. This gives me a reason to drive over there and have lunch with him and ask some questions!!!!

 

[KevinC]

Mike S….enough said.

 

[WB5UOM]

I was wondering if was the same person
what KevinC said

 

[Echo4Thirty]

Wonder what size heliax they plan to use on that first site at 959 feet?
I looked at the FAA site and it does show it to be 959 feet tall.

An ESD owned Tower. goodness.

1 1/4" - 1 5/8" TX
7/8" - 1 1/4" RX with a TTA perhaps up top to compensate for cable losses.

My guess...

 

[WB5UOM]

That would be my guess too --But even if , the 1 5/8 if you round off to 1,000ft run is 6.5Db Loss on TX side
and 7/8 on Rx is over 12Db - 1 1/4 about 8Db.
I know a UHF attempt years ago(not my project) to do 750 ft with 1/2inch on the RX side with preamp on top
I predicted it would not work and it did not - that was what 11Db loss

I realize my thoughts plus about $15.00 might get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks, but I would not do this project.

 

[KevinC]

I had a customer insist on being at 700’ (old broadcast tower the county bought). It never worked well at all, they brought it down to 350’ and couldn’t have been happier. This was 700 mHz.

 

[mass-man]

Mike S….enough said.

YEP...guessing that's why the address is Gordon and not the county offices in Palo Pinto!!!

 

[hiegtx]

YEP...guessing that's why the address is Gordon and not the county offices in Palo Pinto!!!

I think that address, in Gordon, must be their officer that handles the radio side of things.

I went back several months, looking at the meeting minutes for ESD 1, looking for details on exactly what they were doing, and who had the contract. Found several references to radio/communication issues in general, but nothing specific on exactly what they plan. Apparently, they hold their meetings in an office in Graford.

 

[nd5y]

They modified the license already. Different frequencies at each site now.

ULS Application - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked - 0010261520 - PALO PINTO COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT #1

Simulcast too expensive?

 

[Project25_MASTR]

Mike S….enough said.

Him and I are having a good laugh over this thread right now...alas I have been sworn to secrecy.

 

[Sprailer36]

I think that address, in Gordon, must be their officer that handles the radio side of things.

I went back several months, looking at the meeting minutes for ESD 1, looking for details on exactly what they were doing, and who had the contract. Found several references to radio/communication issues in general, but nothing specific on exactly what they plan. Apparently, they hold their meetings in an office in Graford.

And of course the name on the license comes back to the Ham Operator whose address is the same.

 

[WB5UOM]

Yes- still going to be interesting.
Someone may have hit their head and figured all the subscriber units were gonna be hanging out on that 956 ft site (well- if any signal was getting to the ground anyway)

----ps. thats a cool Secret Squirrel logo

 

[Project25_MASTR]

That tower west of Brazos used to be a FM broadcast station.
I think they either went out of business or moved to another tower and the county bought the tower.

That tower was the original site for KFWR (99.5 The Ranch). They moved to Jacksbro. I've done some work out there since the county acquired the site. Wasn't too long ag that the county invested in installing a complete LED lighting system (fully monitored by LumenServe) as the quotes to paint two more times outweighed the cost of converting to daytime lighting.

 

[fwradio]

That tower was the original site for KFWR (99.5 The Ranch). They moved to Jacksbro. I've done some work out there since the county acquired the site. Wasn't too long ag that the county invested in installing a complete LED lighting system (fully monitored by LumenServe) as the quotes to paint two more times outweighed the cost of converting to daytime lighting.

That was actually the second tower for KFWR. The original one is a pile of scrap metal on top of Welcome Mountain in Mineral Wells. It was still standing after they moved off of it until a city pickup caught the guy wires. It wasn't a very stout tower.

 

[WB5UOM]

Those dang guy wires...