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Jimru

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I think rapidcharger and I made the same mistake in the same thread, thinking the poster was intentionally making a change in a word, almost as a joke, so we took it that way.
As rapid said in his post here, nothing else in that OP's posts indicated that he (or she) had any issues, as only the one word was spelled wrong in each post, over and over.

I was subsequently notified via PM that the poster in this particular thread had autism.

So, apologies to that person, I meant no harm.

As for the idea that disabled people are mostly rude, I dispute that notion vigorously! Firstly, my nephew, who is 20 years old, has Autism and is one of the nicest people I know. His friends, many of whom are "on the spectrum", are also very nice, polite young people.

In addition, I spent five years reading to the blind in NYC at a place called TAB: The Associated Blind, and everyone I read to was SO grateful that I was there volunteering my time.

Are there disabled people that are rude? Of course, just as there are rude people who have all of their faculties. I've met plenty of the latter and fewer of the former, in fact.

I like Wayne's idea of perhaps adding a note, either in your signature or, if that isn't feasible, in the beginning of your post, indicating that you have certain issues with spelling or sentence structure.

Spell checking isn't a bad idea, as has been suggested. I use Tapatalk on my iPhone to post here most of the time and the spell check does help, although sometimes it gets in the way, as when technical jargon is being used, or slang that the program just doesn't know. It also doesn't correct sentence structure and grammar. That's on me.

I also refute the notion that most of us here on RR are disabled. That just makes no sense at all!

73 to all,
Jim
 
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I will say in my I imagine 200 or so radios I have programmed through the years I have seen one AFC home resident - poor hearing, one blind man, one with a bum leg - walked with a limp and AKAIK that's the extent of people that I have met with radios that I know have impairments. So from my stand point luckily for the people it has been a very low percentage with handicaps.
 

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ok guys I do not have autism. What do you all want to prove that i'm mentally fit. A doctors note? How does it that I wright a letter for some one els turn to me being a target?
 

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I am a terrible speller I admit it. On other forums I have been ripped even to the point where a poster asked me if I failed grammar in high school?...LOL Sometimes I try to respond or type so fast I hit the wrong letters. I have always felt to make fun or flame anybody in a open or private forum is horrible. I'm a ham operator less than a year and I'll admit when I'm in a conversation with some guys who are real experienced hams or real technical,I feel a little intimidated but NOBODY yet has abused me in any way!! Today I had a QSO with a broadcast engineer for WNBC and he was so very kind! I think I'm at a point in my life where I can be humble to still be educated by more experienced peers and know when to listen. I would be saddened if anybody with any type of disability was treated in a horrible fashion.
 

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Everyone, please be mature if you're going to reply to this thread. Otherwise move along. It's not amateur night at the comedy club here. I don't need to delete any more posts.
 

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ok guys I do not have autism. What do you all want to prove that i'm mentally fit. A doctors note? How does it that I wright a letter for some one els turn to me being a target?
You're fine. Don't let certain forum personalities antagonize you. You are justified in your opinions.
 

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Yeah I think this was about a wisecrack I made in regards to a misspelling of a particular word.
It's thread number 266881, reply 15. Feel free to delete my reply, issue me an infraction and I'll be on my way.
Relax, I'm sure it has nothing to do with your post. You had fun with a word used by a very literate person who seems to always prefer spelling that one word differently. Maybe it's his trademark. But you didn't direct it at the person himself, and he didn't even seem to notice, let alone get offended by it.
 

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I know one thing, if you disagree of what WayneH says, you get your post deleted and an infraction. Talk about censorship.
 
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"However, in real life, handicapped people are among the rudest individuals I know."
^^^This is called Discrimination.^^^ You don't know every disable person in the world. You don't know me ether. So how can you Profile me? theres laws against this.

Whether or not you are "handicapped," it is obvious that you do not have good reading comprehension.

You do not know the meaning of the word "discrimination." Look it up. I teach social science at the college level and I know exactly what it means.

I did not "profile" you personally by saying something about "individuals I know."

There are no laws against an individual "profiling" anyone, even if that was what I was doing.

Get over yourself.
 

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Since the OP targeted one of my comments in a previous post, I would just like to say that I fail to see any discrimination, libel, ADA or civil rights violation, or any other legal basis to complain about the discussion in this thread. Members are simply expressing opinions that are protected by the First Amendment.

The foregoing is not intended to constitute legal advice, but states my personal opinion as a lawyer who has been in practice for over 30 years.
 

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I know one thing, if you disagree of what WayneH says, you get your post deleted and an infraction. Talk about censorship.

No. You get infractions for not following the laid out RR.com rules.
Wayne does not let personal feelings get in the way of being forums administrator.
No censorship, just a failure to follow RR.com forum rules.
Marshall KE4ZNR
 

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Not that it means anything, but here’s my 2 cents.

To the OP, I absolutely understand some of the problems you mention. There should not be abuse in the forums; it is just common decency as mmckenna stated. That being said, sometimes it may be taken as insulting when it is simply an attempt at humor. One of the difficult things about communicating online is that context may be misunderstood. For example, as you mentioned, in today’s world many people do abuse the legal system with frivolous lawsuits and as a result, the mere mention of ADA violations is often perceived as a veiled threat.

I agree that ADA application for new media is a gray area at best but I’m not sure if sites such as this (i.e. commercial websites or websites with advertising) have been included as entities being covered by these laws. There is recent case law regarding Netflix and the ADA but at this point I don’t know how big a concern it should be for this site. Of course, a harassment suit could always be launched and that would incur legal fees etc. I’m not a lawyer but that is my opinion of the current situation.

As for the difficulty with comprehending some of the technical aspects of this hobby, let me assure you that it is not only a problem for people with cognitive disabilities. Everyone’s approach should be the same; if someone does not understand and answer they receive, they should first research it themselves and then ask follow up questions if needed.

In response to the comment regarding people with disabilities “being the rudest individuals”; that may be true for the people you know, but in my experience it is not reflective of the people I know. As is pointed out, it is not a discriminatory statement; however, if it is being offered as being representative of the larger population, then it is being used as a stereotypical statement.

In terms of the grammar police, I think that first and foremost they should take their own “advise”. Referring back to context, this was not meant to be hypercritical; rather, it is simply pointed out in order to illustrate that occasionally there can still be mistakes even when using a word processor. All that being said, it can sometimes be difficult to understand what question is actually being asked when the grammar and spelling are very poor. Would it be possible for someone to proof read your friend’s posts prior to them being posted. This step may improve the quality of the responses they receive.
 

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I know one thing, if you disagree of what WayneH says, you get your post deleted and an infraction. Talk about censorship.

Yeah, this is just false.

It may be your opinion, but from what I've seen, having been around this board since 2003 or so, I have to say that without Wayne, LouMaag and the other mods, these forums would just be a free-for-all and not worth visiting.

I have been warned and given infractions myself, btw. I never once felt unfairly singled out, I just take it as a way to learn my boundaries, and then proceed accordingly.
 

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Yeah, this is just false.

It may be your opinion, but from what I've seen, having been around this board since 2003 or so, I have to say that without Wayne, LouMaag and the other mods, these forums would just be a free-for-all and not worth visiting.

I have been warned and given infractions myself, btw. I never once felt unfairly singled out, I just take it as a way to learn my boundaries, and then proceed accordingly.

I have to agree. these people do a wonderful job. And I too had a warning on this site, But I learned not to make that mistake twice.
 

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I can't imagine any of the regular posters in the forums here intentionally making fun of any known handicapped persons on here. For the most part, it seems to be a decent bunch of people, in spite of the back biting and bickering that takes place at times. It's either political, or technical issues that brings that out, not personal ones.

That said, the OP should keep in mind that this is a WRITTEN forum, with the written word being the first and last impression people get from each other. In that sort of format, like it or not, spelling and grammar counts.

Just like we all make decisions on people based on first impressions in real life, that happens as well when the interaction takes place in a written format. Some people's reaction might be to tease or criticize, someone else's might be to discount that persons post completely, thinking it not worth responding to. I myself draw the line at posts that are simply too mangled to read. It happens a lot here. I can't tell whether the person writing has physical issues, or whether they just didn't pay attention in school.

There are a lot of wonderful software and hardware tools out there to help with spelling and grammar that fit every level of disability, whether it's physical or otherwise. Rather than lament a situation where you feel that your written language skills are being made fun of, perhaps you could make use of the many tools available to assist people in communicating. If Stephen Hawking can create brilliantly coherent written sentences with his tongue, so can anyone else. And if someone uses "big words" as you say, that aren't understood, either ask what they mean, or look them up. That's how you learn... well, that's how I did, anyway.
 
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ignorance is bliss

However, in real life, handicapped people are among the rudest individuals I know. Those who have one particular disability

you know f*****g ignorant you just made your self look?

not every handicapped person is rude! retype your statement so you don't look as much as a fool as you really are.
 

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you know f*****g ignorant you just made your self look?

not every handicapped person is rude! retype your statement so you don't look as much as a fool as you really are.

I guess you just proved Daves point...
 
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you know f*****g ignorant you just made your self look?

not every handicapped person is rude! retype your statement so you don't look as much as a fool as you really are.

Next time, read the whole thread before commenting.

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