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[kylep997]

Hello, Based on what I see on Unitrunker, there are only a few RCMP officers in town and possibly only one that is on at any given time. The RCMP in town seem to always need assistance from surrounding detachments. There seems to be a service gap between 3am till about 6am as some calls from the DOCC seem to go unanswered during this time. This seems to be a province wide issue for them as well. I recall a news article about this and I will post here. Estevan and Carnduff RCMP detachments form temporary amalgamation amid staffing woes

 

[Mobby1-Kenobby]

Yes, I agree with your assessment. The situation in Carnduff is similar to many other locations in the province.
RCMP member shifts are 10 hours long. The day shift is 7:00 am to 5:00 pm and the night shift is 5:00 pm to 3:00 am and so there is that "gap" of four hours that the criminal element will use to their advantage.

We are all creatures of bad habits and predator's love to ambush creatures that frequent the same travel routes and locations every day.
The predators watch and know when we are at work or at home. The predators know exactly how long we will be away and when we will return. The predators know what streets, grid roads and highways we will travel each day.

If I was in command I would have at least one RCMP member start their day shift at 9:00 am and work until 7:00 pm and do the same with the night shift, that being 9:00 pm to 7:00 am, so the "gap" would be gone. I would in addition to this require RCMP members to reside within in the community. For example, Carnduff detachment members would be required live in Carnduff. I see far too many examples of members commuting for an hour or two before and after a shift.

As for the bad habits I was trained to never to be a creature of bad habits. I do not come and go at the same times or travel the same routes every day. I do not frequent the same "watering holes" every day. Predators operate in "packs" or "gangs". A predatory member will keep an eye on you or me while the other members loot our homes and businesses.

The RCMP members don't appear to comprehend how gangs really operate. A couple of gang members will stage in "critical incident" at a home in a rural location by calling 911. Other gang members watch the local detachment and take a "head count", that is how many members "headed out" to the 911 call. Other gang members are now free to loot a home or business in the community and will no doubt be informed when the RCMP members clear the scene of the 911 call.

Every gang masters it's domain. Gangs inundate and overload the system's resources, so there are never enough police officers on duty to meet the required demands. The gangs keep our jails and prisons continually over their capacity. The court system is so over loaded with gang bangers we require night courts. Our system is already so broken that it is beyond repair.

Cheers?

 

[kylep997]

I completely agree with you Mobby1. Before I got into this hobby I thought the police where always on duty and crime/gangs where an almost non existent Issue but after getting into this hobby I find myself locking the doors at night and keeping an eye out for suspicious people. I feel we are lied to by the police/government and the media so the current state of things are easier to swallow. I have learned a lot from using SDR's and Unitrunker as well as the members on this forum. This newbie RR member still has a sliver of hope for things to change but that is fading fast. In any event thank you everyone for posting and helping this newbie.

 

[kylep997]

Hello, Today something interesting happened here on site 153 and I am not sure if anyone has had something else happen on there site. Source 2262994 seems to have trespassed on this site, possibly a rogue radio maybe or something else I am unaware of.

I will attach a screen shot for anyone interested.

 

[wolffe]

Afternoon guys, been watching TG 219 for most of the afternoon.

RID on 219 all new to me

2215913
2215915
2215924

TG 116 very active today

 

[Mobby1-Kenobby]

Hi, Kylep997

This is what Rick aka Unitrunker2 posted about this:
"Trespass" a specific type of denial for a foreign radio (a radio coming from a different network) was displayed previously as "Deny".
I am also seeing this. See the screenshots.

Hi, wolffe, I have never seen that RCMP talk-group ID before and the same can be said for those three RCMP RIDs.

Talk-group ID 116 074 DE RCMP Link ID with RCMP Flin Flon Manitoba-PSCS.

RID 2215418 on TG 116 Flin Flon Manitoba
RID 2215420 on TG 116 Flin Flon Manitoba
RID 2215421 on TG 116 Flin Flon Manitoba
RID 2215424 on TG 116 Flin Flon Manitoba
RID 2215425 on TG 116 Flin Flon Manitoba
RID 2215427 on TG 116 Flin Flon Manitoba
RID2215428 on TG 116 Flin Flon Manitoba

Cheers.

 

[wolffe]

You can add 2215914 to the 219 list. All Data bursts.

 

[Mobby1-Kenobby]

Hi, all

Early this morning I could see the File Hills Police Service was unusually busy on talk-group 18.
Units involved were M350 and M356 along with Portables FH12, FH7 and FH2, unit other FHPS members came on duty at 7:00 am.
RID 2211509 RMCU Delta unit was seen on TG 18 from 10:30 am to 11:10 am.
MOSS was seen communicating with M350 at 11:25 am.
RID 2211352 R-ICE unit 3 was seen at 3:50 pm on TG 12.
RID 2211422 CICC use was seen on TG 18 at 4:45 pm.
See the link for more information.

Suspicious death under investigation on Carry the Kettle Nakoda Nation

Residents of Carry the Kettle Nakoda Nation may notice an increased police presence as this investigation continues.

www.sasktoday.ca

The RID 2216255 seen in post #277, as reported by kylep997 was seen communicating with the DOCC on TG 18 at 9:06 am and 9:25 am.
The RID 2264463 SERCO portable #13 was see logging in on TG 6106 at 9:38 am and 1:40 pm on site 72.

Cheers.

 

[kylep997]

Hello, Yesterday there was no login or joins from the local RCMP till about 9:30am. I find this interesting as they usually login with there radios when they start there shifts at 7am or at the latest 8am then today I also saw RID 2216255 here at about 8:30am then he/she didn't appear again till about 10:20am. I will attach some screenshots for anyone interested.

 

[kylep997]

Hello again, I believe that RID 2216255 has nothing to do with CTSS or even CRU for that matter. I believe that 2216255 is specialized unit such as GIS or maybe MCU based on what Mobby1 said yesterday in post #288 and my data for that day. I may be wrong but 2216255 was active between 9:06am and 9:25am in the fort area.

This with my data shows that this unit left this area early in the morning possibly responding to the CTK homicide. All other CTSS units in this area carried on as usual but 2216255 seems to have left this area in a hurry and it would seem it only stayed in the fort area collecting information or whatever it was doing. It then came back to this area possibly for its original purpose.

The day I observed this unit in town it had no ALPR was unmarked black and was a Ford Police Interceptor SUV. Maybe it's some Intelligence/Surveillance Unit. This is mostly speculation on my part, but this unit doesn't seem to follow the same pattern as regular CTSS or CRU.

 

[Mobby1-Kenobby]

Hi, kylep997

I had to go down into the archives to locate some of this RID information, along with data from other RR members.

2216245 Swift Current Traffic Services seen on TG 20.
2216246 M731 Weyburn Combined Traffic Service #1 seen and heard on TG 10. Seen on site 72.
2216247 M732 Weyburn Combined Traffic Service #2
2216248 M733 Weyburn Combined Traffic Service #3 seen on TG 10.
2216249 M734 Weyburn Combined Traffic Service #4 seen on TG 18.
2216250 M485 Estevan Combined Traffic Service #1 seen on TGs 46/20
2216251 M486 Estevan Combined Traffic Service #2 seen on TGs 10/20.
2216252 seen on TGs 10/18.
2216253 No Data for this RID.
2216254 seen on TG 45. Hits 99.
2216255 seen on TG 14 site 153 03/15/2025 and coms on TG 18 on 03/21/2025. Hits 2.
2216256 seen on TG 14/16. Hits 4.
2216257 seen on TG 10. Hits 4.
2216258 No Data for this RID.
2216259 seen on TG 14. Hits 4.

Cheers.

 

[kylep997]

Thank you, Mobby1, for the context and for digging into your archive. This data is really interesting. If I’m interpreting it correctly, RIDs 2216245 to 2216251 appear to be roving traffic units, but the rest seem to be either unknown or less active. Do you think the remaining RIDs could also be traffic-related, or possibly something else? Also, is your current theory that 2216255 is still CTS/CRU, or do you think it might be something more specialized based on this data? Thank you Again.

 

[Mobby1-Kenobby]

Hi, kylep997

More information for you from my archive.

On April 26th 2016 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau traveled from Regina to Fort Qu'Appelle Saskatchewan.
The Talk-group used for this event was 42 and is now known to be TAC #8.
These RIDs are a group that was seen on that day only and I have not seen since that day.

2216225 Hits 1
2216226 Hits 8
2216227 Hits 47 on site 20th through 26th "Mobile Command"
2216228 Hits 7
2216229 Hits 2
2216231 Hits 3
2216232 Hits 16
2216233 Hits 2
2216234 Hits 13
2216235 Hits 13
2216236 Hits 13
2216239 Hits 1
2216240 to 2216245 have not been seen for several years so those RIDs not from around this part of the province
or they are reserved for some special purpose like those RIDs utilized for the PM's visit RIDs.

2216247 shows as Weyburn City unit M732 CTS, Constable "Jim" was heard on TG 151, Hits 7.

2216252 to 2216255 could very well be portable radios utilized by City of Estevan Combined Traffic Officers?
These RIDs could be utilized by City of Estevan SERT/CRT units?

The RIDs just above these appear to be utilized by RCMP Traffic Services Carlyle and Broadview.

Estevan Police | WORKING TOGETHER FOR A SAFE COMMUNITY

estevanpolice.ca

SERT programs help province by arresting offenders, taking drugs off the street

The provincial government is pleased with recent results from its numerous special policing teams, who've arrested high-profile offenders and taken drugs off the streets. The Saskatchewan RCMP's specialised Saskatchewan Enforcement Response Teams have been working in the province, with their...

discoverestevan.com

Cheers.

 

[kylep997]

Hello, Yesterday CBSA? was active between 10:20am and 12:24am. I will attach screenshots. Also to date CBSA? has 28 radios that have been seen here on site 153. I will also attach a link to the RCMP operational manual if anyone is interested: RCMP Operational Manual

 

[kylep997]

Hello again, Mobby1 was right.
I believe about RID's 2216252-2216255. There was a news release about the homicide on CTK from the RCMP earlier today talking about how they had assistance from a number of other RCMP units other than MCU. The RCMP didn't specify which units helped during this investigation but I suspect it was SERT or CRT.

I will post the link to the original RCMP media release here: https://rcmp.ca/en/saskatchewan/news/2025/03/charge-laid-suspicious-death-carry-kettle-nakoda-nation

 

[Mobby1-Kenobby]

Hi, all

RR member Ryan from Saskatoon shared his p25 packet text file in post #124. I sorted through the RIDs seen on 00A sites 19/113/236/242 and 00C site 38 after removing all of the Saskatoon Motorola site BEE004E4 data. I was left with only 6400 lines of data to go through.
I have updated RR member Wil's Google Sheet with most of my findings. I thank Ryan for sharing his file with use.

Ryan's data was dated between 02/12/2024 and 07/19/2024, so it covered about four months.
In this time frame there were only two CBSA RIDs seen on site 19.
Each of those CBSA RIDs was seen only once on the same day and not very far apart, so these could be
a mobile with a portable. This data appears to explain why so little CBSA action is seen on site 19.
It only takes one CBSA RID logged in on site 19 to see all of the channel grants from other CBSA officers
on other sites in the network, but it appears CBSA is rarely in Saskatoon.

RR member Kyle in Carnduff is seeing by far, the most CBSA action, and I thank him for reporting what he is seeing.

CBSA
Their groups utilize the AES Key ID is 6001=24557
A total of 100 radios are seen in use.

This group of four appears to be PPSTN OFC loners handed out first?
RID 2262769 TG 6134 site 19
RID 2262771 TG 6134 site 19/71/72<
RID 2262774 TG 6134 site 19
RID 2262774 TG 6133 site 19

Their group possibly consisting of up to a total of 231 radios.
RID 2264550 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264553 TG 6133 site 19
RID 2264555 TG 6142 site 19
RID 2264558 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264559 TG 6133 site 19
RID 2264560 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264561 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264562 TG 6134 site 71<
RID 2264565 TG 6134 site 71<
RID 2264568 TG 6133 site 19
RID 2264569 TG 6142 site 19
RID 2264570 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264571 TG 6133 site 19
RID 2264573 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264575 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264579 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264580 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264581 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264582 TG 6142 site 19
RID 2264583 TG 6134 site 71<
RID 2264585 TG 6142 site 19
RID 2264587 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264588 TG 6142 site 19
RID 2264589 TG 6133 site 19
RID 2264590 TG 6133 site 71<
RID 2264591 TG 6142 site 19
RID 2264592 TG 6133 site 05
RID 2264593 TG 6142 site 19 153*
RID 2264594 TG 6142 site 19 153*
RID 2264595 TG 6142 site 19
RID 2264596 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264597 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264599 TG 6142 site 19
RID 2264603 TG 6133 site 19
RID 2264604 TG 6142 site 19
RID 2264606 TG 6142 site 19
RID 2264608 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264609 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264617 TG 6134 site 19
RID 2264618 TG 6134 site 71<
RID 2264622 TG 6142 site 19
RID 2264623 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264631 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264641 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264636 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264641 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264646 TG 6130 site 32
RID 2264650 TG 6130 site 32
RID 2264651 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264659 TG 6130 site 32
RID 2264661 TG 6130 site 32
RID 2264663 TG 6130 site 32
RID 2264669 TG 6142 site 19/153*
RID 2264671 TG 6136 site 34
RID 2264672 TG 6136 site 34/36
RID 2264673 TG 6136 site 34
RID 2264675 TG 6136 site 34
RID 2264676 TG 6136 site 34
RID 2264678 TG 6136 site 34
RID 2264679 TG 6136 site 34
RID 2264682 TG 6136 site 34
RID 2264684 TG 6136 site 34
RID 2264685 TG 6136 site 34
RID 2264686 TG 6136 site 34/36
RID 2264687 TG 6136 site 34
RID 2264689 TG 6136 site 34/36
RID 2264691 TG 6136 site 34
RID 2264692 TG 6136 site 19
RID 2264693 TG 6136 site 19
RID 2264694 TG 6136 site 19
RID 2264696 TG 6142 site 19
RID 2264707 TG 6133/6134 site 34
RID 2264736 TG 6137 site 19
RID 2264739 TG 6136/6137 One of two seen on site 19.<--- See
RID 2264740 TG 6136 site 19
RID 2264741 TG 6134 site 34
RID 2264746 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264747 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264748 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264749 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264751 TG 6142 site 153*
RID 2264751 TG 6142 site 19
RID 2264754 TG 6133 site 05/72<
RID 2264760 TG 6136 site 19
RID 2264768 TG 4020 site 19
RID 2264769 TG 6137 site 19
RID 2264774 TG 6136 site 34
RID 2264775 TG 6136 site 34/36
RID 2264776 TG 6136 site 19
RID 2264777 TG 6133 One of two seen on site 19.<---See
RID 2264778 TG 6134 site 72<
RID 2264779 TG 6136 site 34
RID 2264781 TG 6130 site 05

Cheers.

 

[kylep997]

Hello, Today Saskatchewan Highway Patrol Dispatch Is currently Unencrypted. Does anyone know if this is normal as I thought all law enforcement was encrypted in Saskatchewan? I will attach some screen shots for anyone interested.