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tvengr

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It used to be that the database provided band plans and trunking tables for the various scanners. Is that now for premium subscribers only? I know that they will be included if downloaded from the RR database. Thanks!
 

GTR8000

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You're confusing the old Motorola Type I/II trunking tables with the newer P25 Channel ID tables. The former were and are available freely when downloading those older Motorola systems; the latter were implemented just a few years ago and were never available freely, nor do they get passed along to any programming software even if you are a premium member.
 

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The PRO-96 does not download a band plan or trunking tables from the control channel. For P25 VHF and UHF systems, a band plan or trunking tables is required. Are you saying that VHF and UHF P25 systems will not function if downloaded from the database?
 

GTR8000

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What I'm saying is that the P25 Channel ID tables are a newer feature that were added in May of 2022, and they are available only to premium subscribers via the RRDB trunked system site details web pages. Those tables are not exposed to the RadioReference Database Web Service API, and therefore are not and were never available via programming software.

Again, you're probably confusing those newer P25 tables with the older Motorola Type I/II Site Custom Frequency tables which are available via programming software.

If you are programming a P25 system into a PRO-96, I guess you'll have to find the site's band plan and enter it into the scanner manually. That has always been the case, nothing has changed.
 

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Went to check a P25 ID table for the Monroe/Ontario NY simulcast system, as I was curious , Which required a premium subscription, thus
paid the membership fee for this perk However it seems the information has disappeared. Checked couple other simulcast systems and that info has disappeared as well. Where'd it go?
 

Motoballa

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Went to check a P25 ID table for the Monroe/Ontario NY simulcast system, as I was curious , Which required a premium subscription, thus
paid the membership fee for this perk However it seems the information has disappeared. Checked couple other simulcast systems and that info has disappeared as well. Where'd it go?
FCC database update, give it a few hours and check again

CORRECTION: The FCC database upgrade doesn't effect the P25 ID table information, only the callsign(s) associated and radio site mapping.

Attached screenshot shows the P25 ID table for one of the sites below and can be accessed here: Monroe/Ontario Counties Site: Monroe East Simulcast (not sure if it's against TOS so blurred the table just to be safe since it is a premium user feature)

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GTR8000

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Went to check a P25 ID table for the Monroe/Ontario NY simulcast system, as I was curious , Which required a premium subscription, thus
paid the membership fee for this perk However it seems the information has disappeared. Checked couple other simulcast systems and that info has disappeared as well. Where'd it go?
Listed on the site detail pages, not the main system pages.
 
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