Pro 197 help

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hiegtx

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This is a lot to digest when im such a newbie. I need a scanner for phase 2 p25 obviously. Im willing to try and program,i used psredit for my old 197. Not sure its compatable but thats ok if it isnt. Sds 200 and 100 are $600 plus. Thats a heap to throw down.
Yorr best bet for dealing with simulcast systems is one of Uniden's SDS series scanners. Yes, they are pricey compared to earlier models, but they do handle simulcast. Simulcast issues are extremely location driven. If you are in the right spot, such as very close (like a quarter mile) to one of the transmit towers (sub-sites), then you might not have an issue. In some cases, if you are in a 'low spot', surrounded by several hills, those hills might block signals from all but one site, allowing you to receive the system. Or, if your house has metal siding, or foil backed insulation in the walls, you might experiment by trying your scanner at various places inside your house. You might find a 'sweet spot' where it will work. There have been cases where a move of as little as a foot make a difference between working, or not. A directional antenna, aimed at one specific sub-site, might also work, but by concentrating your reception to a single direction can impact your ability to monitor other frequencies & systems in your area.

Read more about Simulcast in this Wiki article: Simulcast digital distortion - The RadioReference Wiki

As already noted above, the 436HP & 536HP are not as effective against simulcast as are the SDS series scanners, but they are better than Uniden's P2 series. Whistler's scanners do not do well at all with simulcast, other than cases where your location makes a difference between working, and not handling the system. You might keep an eye open for one of the SDS scanners popping up at an attractive price in the classifieds here on RadioReference, or on eBay. Keep an eye on the vendor mentioned in this thread, Main Trading Company. MTC often has a promo on scanners, either a lower price, or if purchased with another item.

Should you decide to "roll the dice", and try a 436HP, or 536HP to see if one of these works for you, make your purchase from a dealer that does not hit you with a sizeable "re-stock fee" for returns. Generally, you would still have to pay the shipping costs for returning the scanner to the dealer, and depending on where you made your purchase, you might also have paid the initial costs of shipping the scanner to you at time of purchase. Amazon has a very "buyer friendly" return police, without penalties. Initial shipping from Amazon would be at no charge; based on the cost of the item, the unit's cost qualifies for free shipping. You would pay for return shipping (unless you have a Prime account).

Whether you eventually by an SDS scanner, or one of the x36HP models, do not pay a dealer to program it for you (and skip the "optimization" also promoted during the sale). You can download the Sentinel software from Uniden, which is free. You need it to maintain the database in the scanner, as well as apply any firmware updates (if & when any are released). You can download Sentinel & 'test drive' it before you get the scanner (you can install it before even ordering one of the scanners). The 'Easier to Read Manuals' site has links for the scanners, as well as the version of Sentinel used for the SDS and x36HP scanners. Since you are a Premium Subscriber, you can use software such as ProScan, which has features not included with Sentinel, and allows importing from the database here on RadioReference. ProScan does have a 30-day free trial, as does ARC536.
 

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Absolutely this is what I needed. Thank you for not over complicating it. My choice is the sd200. Seems to be the best bang for the buck. Even at the price tag. I'll check around and see what I can find. Thanks everyone for all your help . I appreciate it
 

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I was just recently in the Minneapolis area for a little while and my SDS100 and 200 (even my BC296D, which surprised me from my location and for its age) worked great with the simulcast ARMER system Minnesota uses. I would definitely recommend it for use in areas where trunked simulcast systems are the primary interest. It's also fairly easy to program yourself. If you don't plan on using it in your car (unless you want to actually install it) then it is definitely worth the money.
 

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I have the SDS 100 & 435HP. The SDS 100 is a pit bull on decoding. You should be aware of the rather steep learning curve that some folks experience. This radio needs some adjustments for optimal performance. Yes, they are expensive, but worth it.

Whistler branded scanners don't decode like the SDS models. In fact, they don't charge for NXDN or DMR platforms. The Uniden models track conversations in a different way than Whistlers. Uniden bought access to ProVoice, DMR, & NXDN. Whistler did not. Of course it costs to upgrade to one of these systems.

Check with your state forum to see what systems are available in your area.

Also, check to see if there are plans for various agencies to migrate to full encryption. There are folks who have spent a lot of money on radios, It is sad when agencies encrypt and the hobbyist is sitting with an expensive paperweight.



Good luck.
 
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I've always lived by you get what you pay for. I'm going to save and get the uniden
There is a pretty big jump in prices from the 436HP and SDS 100. I am so thankful I had the extra money to buy mine. I love it. I am certainly not fond of the battery setup. If and when you do buy one, pay very close attention about how to open and close the battery door. It needs a little body English. It is a rather tight fit.
 
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