PSR 500 screen shots. HELP NEEDED!

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with data frequency input for demonstration .


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Note the position of the first object
01-0192. This can't be the first available slot for the radio which I cleared THREE TIMES.

What,if anything, am I doing wrong?
 

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What are you doing wrong for what? You can't pick the object ID number without software.
 

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Without the software?

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What are you doing wrong for what? You can't pick the object ID number without software.

You're telling me I purchased a scanner that can't be programmed with anything but software? If that's the case,I want my money back and fast.
 

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The object ID cannot, but you can still program it.

Nevermind.
 

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Stavro35 said:
with data frequency input for demonstration .

Note the position of the first object
01-0192. This can't be the first available slot for the radio which I cleared THREE TIMES.

What,if anything, am I doing wrong?

Your not doing anything wrong. What you are showing us is a memory object location. It's not the same as a bank/channel as you may be used to. Objects are linked together and when you add things to it it becomes linked to other objects. If you put a frequency in an object, it won't be in a visible order that you may looking for.

The display is showing scanlist 01, and object 0192. If you have other frequencies programmed they would be at a different object address depending what they are assigned to, if they have an alpha tag, a CTCSS code stored, etc.
 

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Shouldn't the scan list location be 01-0001 instead of 01-0192? Again,I cleared out the radio several times trying to get things right .Prior to inputting the HEAR frequency. There was nothing in the radio at all.
 

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Again, your thinking of banks and channels. An object is made up of a group of memory blocks in a pool of available memory. As Rob mentioned you can manipulate the object number if you desire with third party software, but it isn't necessary. To go to a specific object location you press manual or program, enter the object number (without the scanlist number) and press enter.
 

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If I go to my current object "0000" it shows up at my Statewide trunked system TGRP Wildcard. Object "0001" is the private call wildcard, "0003" is an AFS EDACS talkgroup in a different scanlist.
 

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Yeah you are thinking about banks and channels. With the PSR-500 you have "scan list" and "object id" numbers. The only number that truely matters is the first two (the scan list number). It will work the same if the number is 01-1500 or 01-0000.
 

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Stavro35 said:
Note the position of the first object
01-0192. This can't be the first available slot for the radio which I cleared THREE TIMES.

What,if anything, am I doing wrong?
How are you clearing the radio? I just did a 0-1 init on mine, pressed "NEW" and "CONV", saved the new conventional channel object, and it ended up in Object ID 0000.
 

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Dubbin said:
Well thats pretty stupid.

Well, programming without software is pretty stupid :>

Why does it matter what the object ID is?
 

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You could always start over by clearing out the radio's main memory by pressing 0 - 1 - ENT while the "Welcome" message is displayed after powering up the radio.

I followed the above steps.
Now my radio reads "Nothing enabled!"

Finally I pressed the same series of keys and it initialized the scanner.

It now reads
"File system initialized to defaults, press any key.

I've programmed in a series of frequencies as and they read as follows.

01-0000 155.340
01-0001 155.400

So it looks like whatever I did this time worked!
 

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Oh man, this seems confusing. I have been a scanner listener for years and will be getting this unit in the next few days. I may need some help with this. I now understand that the Bank and Channel option do not exist on this unit. So how would one find a programed frequency that they entered? Better yet how do you organize groups as you did with banks?
 

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You can use a scanlist or link an objet to multiple scanlists. The best method to manipulate the frequency and talkgroup data is to use one of the third party programs such as PSREdit, Win500, or ARC500.
 
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That being said, it is quite difficult - compared to traditional scanners - to jump directly to a desired channel or talkgroup without knowing its object ID. Even then, the scanner will not jump directly to an object that happens to be a TGID. It will jump to a TSYS, though.
 

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rdale said:
Well, programming without software is pretty stupid :>

Why does it matter what the object ID is?

It doesn't, except that without knowing what Object ID is assigned to what frequency or talkgroup, it's impossible to directly access a given talkgroup or frequency. Which, IMO, is a big shortfall of this type of memory management. Unless you eventually memorize what Object ID number is assigned to an object.

Which brings me to this question: Do any of the currently available programming software packages have a print option to allow you to print out the list of objects and their assigned ID numbers? I know PSR Edit doesn't have a print option, although you can view and sort all of your scannable objects by ID, frequency, alpha tag, etc. A print option would be helpful in this regard to keep on hand as a cheat sheet for direct access to scannable objects.
 

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It's a shame this topic went south so fast. The problem I had has been resolved. I'm currently programming my radio to my liking with no problem.
 

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W4KRR said:
It doesn't, except that without knowing what Object ID is assigned to what frequency or talkgroup, it's impossible to directly access a given talkgroup or frequency. Which, IMO, is a big shortfall of this type of memory management. Unless you eventually memorize what Object ID number is assigned to an object.

Which brings me to this question: Do any of the currently available programming software packages have a print option to allow you to print out the list of objects and their assigned ID numbers? I know PSR Edit doesn't have a print option, although you can view and sort all of your scannable objects by ID, frequency, alpha tag, etc. A print option would be helpful in this regard to keep on hand as a cheat sheet for direct access to scannable objects.

I've thought about an option like this. What kind of a layout would you like to see as far as the data presentation? Something sorted by Object number? Alpha Tag? Object Type?

Multple object per line? Single object per line with details similar to the current page display?

(1800 objects are not going to fit on a single page no mater how small you make the font)

Mike
 
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