PSR 500 screen shots. HELP NEEDED!

[kikito]

It doesn't, except that without knowing what Object ID is assigned to what frequency or talkgroup, it's impossible to directly access a given talkgroup or frequency. Which, IMO, is a big shortfall of this type of memory management. Unless you eventually memorize what Object ID number is assigned to an object.

It's not as hard as some of you think or put it to be. Once you have everything arranged in scanlists, you can jump from scanlist to scanlist and then scroll through the objects to find what you need. You can also obviously memorize some of the object ID numbers just like you memorize some talkgroups and access them directly. The scanner also has a FIND feature that works pretty good and fast and you can search by even partial TG, tag, frequency, etc.

Like I said it's not as bad as it might seem, especially once you use the scanner for awhile.

Having the Object ID as an alternate method to access stuff is actually a plus compared to the Uniden memory management which you can only do one of two things: scroll to find what you're looking for or enter a TG ID directly but only if on a trunked system. The PSR-500 has an extra couple of powerful ways to find and access stuff: direct Object ID and FIND feature.

 

[kikito]

That being said, it is quite difficult - compared to traditional scanners - to jump directly to a desired channel or talkgroup without knowing its object ID.

Have you used any of the latest Uniden scanners? They don't even have the option. I explained some of the pluses and ways to access stuff on my previous post.

Even then, the scanner will not jump directly to an object that happens to be a TGID. It will jump to a TSYS, though.

The scanner DOES jump directly to a TGID or frequency and is immediately monitoring for traffic when you access it in any of the ways I discussed earlier, including direct Object ID entry. As an example, if I have a TGID on Object ID 0007, all I have to do is type 7 and ENT and it'll go there instantly and starts receiving transmissions.

 

[kikito]

Oh man, this seems confusing. I have been a scanner listener for years and will be getting this unit in the next few days. I may need some help with this. I now understand that the Bank and Channel option do not exist on this unit. So how would one find a programed frequency that they entered? Better yet how do you organize groups as you did with banks?

I thought that after having scanners with similar dynamic memory for at least 2 years or more (i.e. no traditional banks or channels), this wouldn't be a "concern" anymore for scanner users.
Seems like some of you need to do some reading on the subject (the wiki is a good start), especially so as not to keep "hijacking" this thread explaining fundamentals and such....

 

[DaveNF2G]

The scanner DOES jump directly to a TGID or frequency and is immediately monitoring for traffic when you access it in any of the ways I discussed earlier, including direct Object ID entry. As an example, if I have a TGID on Object ID 0007, all I have to do is type 7 and ENT and it'll go there instantly and starts receiving transmissions.

Sorry, mine does not. It will jump to the TSYS containing a desired TGID, but it will not jump to an object ID that represents a TGID. I have tried this many times. And, yes, I have installed the firmware updates.

Also, it is much easier on my 396 to get to a system I want to monitor and then find individual frequencies or talkgroups within it.

 

[rdale]

Sorry, mine does not. It will jump to the TSYS containing a desired TGID, but it will not jump to an object ID that represents a TGID. I have tried this many times. And, yes, I have installed the firmware updates.

You might be doing it wrong... Let's say object #105 is a talkgroup ID #04-021. If you type

1
0
5

then hit SEL, the scanner will jump to that talkgroup and will let you hear only transmissions on that talkgroup.

 

[DonS]

Sorry, mine does not. It will jump to the TSYS containing a desired TGID, but it will not jump to an object ID that represents a TGID. I have tried this many times. And, yes, I have installed the firmware updates.

That's strange. On mine, I have several TGRP objects in locations 0103 - 0110:

0103 Police Dispatch    Group       16
0104 Police Incident    Group       48
0105 Police Dets        Group       80
0106 Police Records     Group      112
0107 Police SpclOps 1   Group     1072
0108 Police SpclOps 2   Group     1104
0109 Police SpclOps 3   Group     1136
0110 PubWorks-Supers    Group     1840

In MAN or PGM modes, I can hit keys n n n ENT (where n n n is 1 0 3 through 1 1 0) and the radio goes straight to the corresponding TGRP object, trunking on the TSYS and looking only for the TGRP object's TGID.

For example, if I hit 1 0 6 ENT, the radio shows:

01-0106 TGRP PlD
ID:          112
Police Records
      TSYS

and gives me anything on TGID 112.

Does your it will not jump to an object ID that represents a TGID mean you're trying to enter the "TGID" value, hoping that it will go to the corresponding TGRP object? It won't do that, of course. To "jump" to a specific TGID, you'd use the "FIND" feature.

 

[kikito]

Sorry, mine does not. It will jump to the TSYS containing a desired TGID, but it will not jump to an object ID that represents a TGID. I have tried this many times. And, yes, I have installed the firmware updates.

To add a little more to what the others have said, are you inputting the actual Object ID for a TGID or are you entering the Object ID for the TSYS object, hence why it keeps sending you to it?

Also, it is much easier on my 396 to get to a system I want to monitor and then find individual frequencies or talkgroups within it.

On the PSR-500 I hit MAN, use the left or right arrows to jump/scroll from scanlist to scanlist. Once I find the scanlist I want, then I use the up or down arrow to scroll to a specific TG. And I can do all that with one hand.

On the 396, not only you need two hands for many of the commands but even when I jump from system to system (FUNC + Scroll) or use the FUNC + RCL option, there's still a lot of 'knob scrolling' during and after that to find a specific TG. In the end I guess it 'might' come down to how stuff is arranged and how familiar somebody is with either scanner as to how much time and/or work is needed to "zoom in" to a specific TG.

 

[DaveNF2G]

To add a little more to what the others have said, are you inputting the actual Object ID for a TGID or are you entering the Object ID for the TSYS object, hence why it keeps sending you to it?

I have Win500 open on the laptop to tell me what the Object ID is and, yes, that is the number I'm using. I have tried nnn SEL and nnn ENTER and nnn MAN, all with the same result. The scanner stays wherever it is.

On the 396, not only you need two hands for many of the commands but even when I jump from system to system (FUNC + Scroll) or use the FUNC + RCL option, there's still a lot of 'knob scrolling' during and after that to find a specific TG. In the end I guess it 'might' come down to how stuff is arranged and how familiar somebody is with either scanner as to how much time and/or work is needed to "zoom in" to a specific TG.

You're right - this is one of those YMMV situations. I should have said that it is easier for me to find things on my 396. However, I prefer the way the PSR-500 is programmed. This problem with jumping directly to TGIDs is the only drawback so far.

 

[mikey60]

I have Win500 open on the laptop to tell me what the Object ID is and, yes, that is the number I'm using. I have tried nnn SEL and nnn ENTER and nnn MAN, all with the same result. The scanner stays wherever it is.

I don't have Win500, and haven't looked at it in a long time, but if I understand correctly, the object ID number that it shows is not necessarily the object's ID in the radio, particularily if that object ID number in Win500 is above 1851 (The highest object ID number possible in the scanner).

Is it possible that the number you are entering is above 1851? Entering the object ID for me works exactly like everyone else is saying, and this is the only explanation I can come up with.

Do a Find for the talkgroup you want and verify that the object ID in the radio matches what you are seeing in Win500. If they are different, then that would be the cause of the confusion.

Mike

 

[randyK]

Mine just stays where it is if I hit "MAN" after entering the object ID #, but if I use "SEL" it works correctly. I also have the latest firmware.
Randy

 

[kikito]

Mine just stays where it is if I hit "MAN" after entering the object ID #, but if I use "SEL" it works correctly. I also have the latest firmware.
Randy

Yes, only SEL or ENT works for direct Object ID access.