PSR-600 and OPP

[spaztic_typer]

I just got my PSR-600 and loaded all the OPP freqs and talk groups using the radio reference software and haven't heard any traffic at all. I see that there is a signal, so thats not an issue. It is recieving other local trunking, so it is working. Any one have an idea's as too what I didn't do right?

 

[tonsoffun]

Hi spaztic_typer

Welcome to RR. I moved your thread to the Ontario forum to have the pro's here help you.

Thanks

 

[EJB]

I just got my PSR-600 and loaded all the OPP freqs and talk groups using the radio reference software and haven't heard any traffic at all. I see that there is a signal, so thats not an issue. It is recieving other local trunking, so it is working. Any one have an idea's as too what I didn't do right?

Which tower are you monitoring? The reason why I ask is because when I used to drive thru Milton you were far enough away from Brittania in Mississauga and sometimes out of range of Ballinafad on the Halton/Wellington border to recieve fleetnet.
The stock antennas arent that group for the frequencies that Fleetnet uses, see if you are getting a good enough signal to decode.

Below are the talkgroups that affiliate (what you will hear) for the area towers:

You scanner I think handles patches well IIRC, I guess the Port Credit, Cambridge will cover the 401 right from roughly 6 HWY to Toronto and the Waterloo Region. Burlington 5 Charlie units and Niagara 5 Golf units are broadcasted on Mississauga Brittania.
B-fad will offer you Wllington 6 Tango units

You should also be able to listen to the Halton EMS, probably Peel North and South EMS talkgroups and Cambridge North 35488, maybe Hamilton City East on 35600 and Tac 4 on 35696.

Add in a few of the MOH's talkgroups like SW 34976, Region 2 (35008?) a few patch talkgroups on Halton (Tac 3 for Halton TAC 5 and 6 for Peel) and the MTO for Morriston area and Kitchener.

 

[spaztic_typer]

Thanks very much to both of you, I'll let you know how I make out. I have Halton freqs in and working.. This I assume means deleteing and starting over with just those? (OPP)

 

[spaztic_typer]

I've loaded Ballinafad, Britannia, with Port Credit, Burlington and Cambrige as talk groups. The signal is 3 bars to full scale. The scanner is displaying OPP 10PS39, 41 and 44. I'll let you know what happens.

 

[mikewazowski]

Better yet, use search mode.

Restricting your scanning activity to programmed talkgroups limits your ability to verify your programming.

Verify that you're at least receiving some sort of traffic (MTO, MOH, etc) before throwing another variable into the mix.

If you receive traffic in ID search mode and not in ID Scan mode, then you're programmed talkgroups are incorrect.

As for your question in the other thread, there's a link at the top of that thread which will take you to the known list of talkgroups for the system.

The only official talkgroup list would be in the hands of the system owner and it's not likely that they'll be
posting it soon.

 

[spaztic_typer]

I did 2 software updates and reloaded both the OPP and Halton, Haltons working fine, nothing on OPP yet.

 

[mikewazowski]

But are you using ID Search Mode or ID Scan mode?

Might be time to put away the programming software and program it by hand.

The problem with relying on software is when it makes a mistake, you don't know how to fix it.

 

[spaztic_typer]

Not sure I just push the scan button and it scans all the freqs and talkgroups I downloaded.

 

[EJB]

You should be hearing all of the talkgroups in search format as Mike said. This is one of those 2 CM snowstorms that for whatever reason people forget how to drive and all hell breaks out!.

Tonite you will also see a few Mto Enforcement talkgroups patched with OPP talkgroups i.e. Peel with Camb and P. Credit.

 

[spaztic_typer]

thanks for your helps guy....okay heres something, the T light is not comng on when I just scan the OPP....It does for Halton though, which is working???

 

[VE3JSO]

only thing i could suggest is try putting the fleetnet system to scan on wild card to see if the opp comes in that way and just hit store what i did when i programmed in the opp on the pro 106

 

[spaztic_typer]

One more piece of information, the manual says that if the T isn't coming on, thats there is no data being recieved. Now I have a good signal, but does this mean the towers I'm hearing aren't transmitting data or the decoder isn't working correctly or at all?. I now have all the OPP towers loaded and talk groups...still nothing (good signal also).....mean while Halton is working.....

 

[EJB]

It means that something, and I dont know what is wrong. Have you entered in the system properly, what type of Motorola system it is, the system parameters the offset and such?
Perhaps someone here can send you a file and go from there because right now Fleetnet is extremely busy.

 

[spaztic_typer]

It's the O.P.P. freqs and talk groups I downloaded from this site using the arc500 software. this includes the Halton freqs and talk groups....which came also from this site, which are working. I have all the towers and talk groups for the O.P.P. that are listed on this site loaded, good signals no "T" coming on though. I also have upgraded the cpu and dsp software to the latest from the factory site.

 

[EJB]

It's the O.P.P. freqs and talk groups I downloaded from this site using the arc500 software. this includes the Halton freqs and talk groups....which came also from this site, which are working. I have all the towers and talk groups for the O.P.P. that are listed on this site loaded, good signals no "T" coming on though. I also have upgraded the cpu and dsp software to the latest from the factory site.

Why dont you show us your settings print a screen shot of them and post them here.

 

[torontokris]

no T means no trunking system, means you wont hear anything.
signal bar RSSI i found is very unreliable.

OPP is different from halton, and the signal strengh is very different
do you have both hamilton (edgar) tower and mississauga (brittania) just in case? even welland (fonthill) is also one to add to your CC list.

wait you have ALL the OPP freqs listed? that could be a problem since the scanner can only handle what 32 in a system.... its possible u loaded the first ones that came up and the ones closet to u didnt make it

try forts programming fleetnet by hand

or try another download with ONLY edgar and brittania

 

[Forts]

Remember that Fleetnet and the Halton system are 2 different system using different towers in different locations. Just because Halton is working doesn't have any bearing on whether or not Fleetnet will.

As mentioned above, if you aren't seeing the 'T' then it isn't hearing the control channel. Try doing this: Setup a custom search from 140 to 144mhz and try running that. Make sure you can hear a control channel in that range, then make sure you have that one programmed in for Fleetnet. If the radio searches thru that range without stopping on any control channels than you have a reception problem of some sort.

 

[EJB]

no T means no trunking system, means you wont hear anything.
signal bar RSSI i found is very unreliable.

OPP is different from halton, and the signal strengh is very different
do you have both hamilton (edgar) tower and mississauga (brittania) just in case? even welland (fonthill) is also one to add to your CC list.

wait you have ALL the OPP freqs listed? that could be a problem since the scanner can only handle what 32 in a system.... its possible u loaded the first ones that came up and the ones closet to u didnt make it

try forts programming fleetnet by hand

or try another download with ONLY edgar and brittania

Kris: Charlton is Hamilton, Edgar is Simcoe Co.

As Kris said, just put in the C/C's for the following towers, B-fad, Brittania, Charlton, Fonthill, Guelph maybe, Woodlawn and see what you get.

 

[spaztic_typer]

8496 OPP 1BNPD -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8240 OPP 1OPS03 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8256 OPP 1OPS04 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8272 OPP 1OPS05 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8288 OPP 1OPS06 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8304 OPP 1OPS07 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8320 OPP 1OPS08 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8336 OPP 1OPS09 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8416 OPP 1OPS14 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8432 OPP 1OPS15 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8208 OPP 1OPS01 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8224 OPP 1OPS02 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8352 OPP 1OPS10 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8368 OPP 1OPS11 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8384 OPP 1OPS12 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8400 OPP 1OPS13 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8448 OPP 1OPS16 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8480 OPP 1OPS18 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2
8464 OPP 1OPS17 -4 BellFleetnet-Ont Group Solid On 20 0 2 2


Heres all the OPP info from my talk group


MOT VHF/UHF BellFleetnet-Ont double click Off 0 On On Roam 95 75 Custom double click Type 2 0 2 No


0142.1700
0142.4100
0142.6200
0142.8150
0143.2650
0141.4500
0141.7200
0142.0500
0142.0650
0142.6500
0142.8450
0143.1750
0143.8050
0141.4350
0141.6900
0142.2300
0142.3200
0142.5150
0142.5750
0141.3600
0141.5400
0141.7350
0142.2450
0142.4550
0142.6050
0143.2950
0143.3250
0141.5550
0142.0800
0142.4400
0142.7250
0142.9500

theres the freq list...


I orginally had Brittannia, Ballinafad and Fonthill towers and Port Credit, Burlington and Cambridge talk groups, same problem, good signal no T, that's why I added them all, to see if I got a T from any where. Signal strength is 3-5 bars just as good or better then Halton