mmckenna
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Who were you planning on talking to using Morse code on MURS?
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Question about MURS
- Thread starter NopeNadda
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Who were you planning on talking to using Morse code on MURS?
mmckenna
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I'd agree.
However, under Part 80, FCC calls out telegraphy as it's own mode.
Not sure who the OP is going to talk to using Morse code on MURS, unless some very local ham wants to help him learn. And since Morse code is no longer required, I'm not sure I'd see the reason to run it on MURS as some sort of alternate to amateur radio.
NopeNadda
DoodleBob
I have a few friends in mind, and I am still trying to get in touch with the local hams in the town I reside in
NopeNadda
DoodleBob
And on that note, what do you mean by "the OP." Please elaborate.
mmckenna
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"Original Poster". That would be you.
There's some challenges here you need to consider. You decide what the right thing to do is:
MURS is limited to 5 channels. Taking over one for Morse code might make you unpopular. MURS channels must be shared, so consider how your actions are going to impact other legal users.
None of the Part 95J radios are going to natively do morse code. You'll need to modify something. Most radio modifications are forbidden by Part 95J rules.
Many hams don't know Morse, so before you get too far down this path, consider who you are actually going to talk to, and if they'll be able to talk back.
Morse code is no longer required for -any- amateur license class.
There's better skills to learn if you want to get your amateur radio license.
CB might be a better choice. More range, and less likely to annoy legal business users.
If you have local ham clubs/local hams, just get them to start teaching you the basics of amateur radio. Most will be happy to help you get your license, and there's often older hams that love nothing better than to pass down gently used radios to new licensees.
The Original Poster or the Original Post.
Since you started this thread, you are the Original Poster and the post with which you started the thread is the Original Post.
Looks like the closest amateur radio club to Henderson is in Lincoln. Lincoln Amateur Radio Club | Ham Radio in Southeast Nebraska, Since 1953
It seems we've come a LONG way from your original post. What is it you're actually trying to accomplish?
KD8DVR
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Morse code is NOT a data mode.
NopeNadda
DoodleBob
Well, I better start saving for a Ham license. and the local repeaters and hams in my area know morse code. but I will see if I can't find some extra money to start on getting my handle.
NopeNadda
DoodleBob
just trying to find a frequency I can LEGALLY send and receive morse code without a license and without hurting my wallet, and not making the FCC upset.
NopeNadda
DoodleBob
I may or may not have clarified this before, but I am still a bit of a NOOB at this stuff. I am still trying to get a better understanding of this stuff.
mmckenna
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An amateur radio license is fairly inexpensive. FCC license fee is something like $15. You may have to pay a few bucks for the license exam. Study materials are free.
That'll be:
Cheaper than trying to buy a MURS radio and boogering together some sort of interface so you can run all these experiments/modes you want to play with.
Cheaper than getting busted by the FCC for doing something not permitted on the band you choose.
Cheaper than going down this MURS path, realizing that 2 watts on a Chinese radio isn't going to get you very far, then having to start all over again at zero trying to do it right.
Cheaper than trying to do this on MURS and then realizing that the people you want to talk to are on amateur radio bands.
Sounds like you are wanting to spend a lot of money to avoid spending money. You don't happen to work at the government, do you?
Receive only now? It would help if you would completely and in detail explain what you are hoping to do. You've gone from using a computer to generate tones to remotely control something to receiving Morse code. Forgive us if we are a tad bit confused.
If you -just- want to listen to Morse code, there's a few options:
Here's FREE MP3 files: Code Practice Files
Get a shortwave receiver and listen in here:
Code Transmissions
The American Radio Relay League (ARRL) is the national association for amateur radio, connecting hams around the U.S. with news, information and resources.
Or, get a shortwave radio and listen to active amateur radio frequencies.
All of those are legal if you just want to listen.
If you want to transmit and you want to be legal, get your amateur radio license. That's the correct place for this and you won't get in trouble if you follow the rules. 2 watts MURS isn't going to get you much range and you'll likely piss off MURS users. MURS isn't amateur radio, it's not the place to try to pretend like it is. It's a small radio service that's designed for a few specific uses. It's not a hobby radio service.
Or, get these:
You are in the right place, we were ALL noobs once, even if some refuse to admit it. No one is born knowing this stuff and we all start somewhere.
You've given us a bit more detail so we can point you in the right direction.
From this iteration of what you are saying you want to do, get your ham ticket.
NopeNadda
DoodleBob
I do not work for the Government, but thanks for the replyAn amateur radio license is fairly inexpensive. FCC license fee is something like $15. You may have to pay a few bucks for the license exam. Study materials are free.
That'll be:
Cheaper than trying to buy a MURS radio and boogering together some sort of interface so you can run all these experiments/modes you want to play with.
Cheaper than getting busted by the FCC for doing something not permitted on the band you choose.
Cheaper than going down this MURS path, realizing that 2 watts on a Chinese radio isn't going to get you very far, then having to start all over again at zero trying to do it right.
Cheaper than trying to do this on MURS and then realizing that the people you want to talk to are on amateur radio bands.
Sounds like you are wanting to spend a lot of money to avoid spending money. You don't happen to work at the government, do you?
Receive only now? It would help if you would completely and in detail explain what you are hoping to do. You've gone from using a computer to generate tones to remotely control something to receiving Morse code. Forgive us if we are a tad bit confused.
If you -just- want to listen to Morse code, there's a few options:
Here's FREE MP3 files: Code Practice Files
Get a shortwave receiver and listen in here:
Code Transmissions
The American Radio Relay League (ARRL) is the national association for amateur radio, connecting hams around the U.S. with news, information and resources.www.arrl.org
Or, get a shortwave radio and listen to active amateur radio frequencies.
All of those are legal if you just want to listen.
If you want to transmit and you want to be legal, get your amateur radio license. That's the correct place for this and you won't get in trouble if you follow the rules. 2 watts MURS isn't going to get you much range and you'll likely piss off MURS users. MURS isn't amateur radio, it's not the place to try to pretend like it is. It's a small radio service that's designed for a few specific uses. It's not a hobby radio service.
Or, get these:
You are in the right place, we were ALL noobs once, even if some refuse to admit it. No one is born knowing this stuff and we all start somewhere.
You've given us a bit more detail so we can point you in the right direction.
From this iteration of what you are saying you want to do, get your ham ticket.
mmckenna
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I know, it was a joke. Sometimes at work they'll go through a lot of effort and manhours trying to save a few dollars.
I really think it's worth doing the ~$35 to get your amateur radio license and then saving for a basic radio. That'll give you access to a whole lot more than MURS ever will. There will be hams in your area that will want to talk to you and help you grow in the hobby. You'll get a lot more range than you would with a 2 watt MURS radio. You'll have access to repeaters which will extend your range even further.
~$35 now will pay off much more in the long run than trying to make MURS do something it was never intended/designed to do.
NopeNadda
DoodleBob
Ok. thanks for the help. I have pay day here soon, so I will get some classes looked up, and see what I can do. Thanks again
mmckenna
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I'm happy to help, and you'll find that many other hams are, too.
Check around your area and see if there is an amateur radio club. They should be more than happy to assist you to study for your test.
NopeNadda
DoodleBob
I have some handheld Ham radios, i have 3 talkpod a38Plus M 8W, a uv-5r, a uniden Bearcat scanner, and a cheap little baofeng bf-888. I have no idea what I will do at the moment, but I will figure something out
NopeNadda
DoodleBob
We'll do. I am in a small town in Nebraska so, only 3 I know currently, one has recently passed, so that is unfortunate, but I will see who I am able to talk to.
NopeNadda
DoodleBob
Also, what do you recommend for a first desktop or mobile Ham radio that won't make my wallet scream in agony, and that has a spectrum analyzer?
mmckenna
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There are two 2 meter band repeaters and one 70 centimeter band repeater in your county that you can probably reach with those radios.
With the scanner, you can program them up and see what you hear. That'll help you learn by listening to others:
York County, Nebraska (NE) Amateur Radio
Amateur Radio in York County, Nebraska (NE)
www.radioreference.com
Might be other clubs nearby. Most ham clubs are eager to find new people and should be more than willing to help you.
Well, you've got some suitable radios already. I always recommend waiting until you have your license before spending any more money. Talk to the other hams to see what they recommend for your specific area.
At minimum, you probably want a VHF mobile, a 12 volt power supply and an outdoor antenna. Which ones will depend entirely on your budget.
