I not saying it won't track it, just haven't seen that channel show up yet here.
Re-Banding
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ecps92
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Many zones don't need to LOAD/USE all the allocated channels, until the volume of traffic dictates it
You may have a problem with your setup, antenna, etc because that site regularly has all 4 voice channels busy and even has several busy rejections during a normal day
chris
chris
I will grant you maybe a setup with Unitrunker, but as for antenna, I doubt that.Since Unitrunker uses the control channel for data.
doctordialtone
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We are getting well away from the rebanding topic but I will add this:
What you are seeing is normal. All the voice channels in that system do not rotate so some channels will see much more use than others. When you look at a system for only a few minutes, you will get a relative few hits. Run TRUNK88 24/7 since rebanding and you might see something closer to this:
853.9125 - 0 (control channel)
852.6500 - 779
852.2625 - 34820
851.4375 - 34608
851.2125 - 3917
320,183 affiliations (someone turns on a radio or changes TGs)
196,296 Digital Call Grants (the channel is not always released between calls)
34 Private Calls
12 Pages
81 Emergencies
1948 All Trunk Busy (all voice channels in use)
166 Group Call Busy's (all voice channels busy with a request for an additional call grant)
chris
What you are seeing is normal. All the voice channels in that system do not rotate so some channels will see much more use than others. When you look at a system for only a few minutes, you will get a relative few hits. Run TRUNK88 24/7 since rebanding and you might see something closer to this:
853.9125 - 0 (control channel)
852.6500 - 779
852.2625 - 34820
851.4375 - 34608
851.2125 - 3917
320,183 affiliations (someone turns on a radio or changes TGs)
196,296 Digital Call Grants (the channel is not always released between calls)
34 Private Calls
12 Pages
81 Emergencies
1948 All Trunk Busy (all voice channels in use)
166 Group Call Busy's (all voice channels busy with a request for an additional call grant)
chris
Thanks cg. 
Although today I'm unable to pick up the control channel.
Although today I'm unable to pick up the control channel.
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no you need to program the system as a rebanded system. Do a search on the RR site for info.
chris
chris
D.O.C. active on 857.6625 with a pl of 85.4 got both station 10 and station 11 on a couple of channels including this today. also heard them tell a unit to go to channel 2 but lost them after that. if i remember station 12 is new haven but I may be wrong. definately heard them say station 10 and station 11. so at least one of the pendings is in use at this time
so much for being able to edit the last post. I got hits on 857.6625 for DOC on both pl's 85.4 and 118.8. 85.4 was definately Whalley Avenue as I heard them with a code white on b-block and talking about county st so it was def. new haven. I'll figure the other location for the other pl out when i hear it again
Joe,
Easeist thing to do. Go to RadioShack USB Cable, and order it. Then when the cable comes go to Programming Cable Information and read the bottom paragraph carefully! Once you've installed uptodate drivers, go back to PRO-96 Software - Win96 - Data Management Software for the RadioShack PRO-96 and PRO-2096 Digital Trunking Scanners and download it. Be sure to follow all instructions on the page. It's a little old fashioned the way he wants you to put it in program files and then unzip. It was originally made on win 2k.
Plug the usb end to the pc, turn scanner on, load win96, plug mono (put adapter on jack end) end in pc/if. Wait for it to say clone mode or something like that. then go to scanner>download from scanner. Youj'll see all your ch's and settings.
Now go to File>Save and save a "master" file for emergencies. Trust me. Then do file>new template, and download from scanner again.
Then go to Channels tab click on Mot3600CC, Multitable and click on extended tables button and then go under 3600CC and check 800 Rebanded. Also make any other changes like make all CSP Conventionals and Itacs 866-868 bring down to 851-853. In fact I have to do that. Do also all 821-823 inputs down to 806-808. Be sure to do the rebannding process with all banks as it might or might not only do the ones you selected. I have to do that while I still have 30 days free. Also clean up your scanner while you're in there as well.
Then save the file as "masterrebanded and then do Scanner>uploadtoscanner and you're all set.
I would not use a usbtoserial adapter on an old Pro92 serial cable. Unless you have an old working pc with win2k or higher then use the cable on that pc. You'll save that way as I did. But just easiest to buy a cable. I don't think SM will charge you shipping for CT. For future sake it's always best to keep a cable lying around.
If any info is wrong, then someone please make it right. I just used my old 92 cable to a 99 HP running win2k with no trouble. Bought a Syba usb to serial and had a heck of a time with it. Just spend the extra 20 and you'll save yourself the hassle! Hey you got the win96 free for 30 days. Is it better to spend 30-60.00 on reprogramming or 430-530 on a new radio when the 96 does the same thing?
Peace all,
shawn
Itac's
Hey all,
As I said in my previous post. I want to do a little housekeeping while i still have time on my w96 trial. Wha'ts up with itacs. Total statewide rebanded? Now I see on State Police Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
Frequency License Type Tone Alpha Tag Description Mode Tag
851.01250 156.7 PL 8CALL90 ICALL 8CALL90 (Rebanded) FM Interop
851.51250 156.7 PL 8TAC91 ITAC1 8TAC91 (Rebanded) FM Interop
852.01250 156.7 PL 8TAC92 ITAC2 8TAC92 (Rebanded) FM Interop
852.51250 156.7 PL 8TAC93 ITAC4 8TAC93 (Rebanded) FM Interop
853.01250 156.7 PL 8TAC94 ITAC4 8TAC94 (Rebanded) FM Interop
866.01250 156.7 PL ICALL ICALL (Old Designation) FM Interop
866.51250 156.7 PL ITAC1 ITAC1 (Old Designation) FM Interop
867.01250 156.7 PL ITAC2 ITAC2 (Old Designation) FM Interop
867.51250 156.7 PL ITAC3 ITAC3 (Old Designation) FM Interop
868.01250 156.7 PL ITAC4 ITAC4 (Old Desingation) FM Interop
So the old itacs are still in use or not? Little confusing. How about input. Everything it totally repeated or is there still simplex? i have it set up the old way in the scanner for Itac1-4R and1-4S and such
Also is someone going to update the DEP freqs as well. They need to have the new 151.355 pl114.8 and 171.575 114.8 as stated in the Connecticut DEP - Scan New England Wiki page.
thanks again guys,
shawn
Hey all,
As I said in my previous post. I want to do a little housekeeping while i still have time on my w96 trial. Wha'ts up with itacs. Total statewide rebanded? Now I see on State Police Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
Frequency License Type Tone Alpha Tag Description Mode Tag
851.01250 156.7 PL 8CALL90 ICALL 8CALL90 (Rebanded) FM Interop
851.51250 156.7 PL 8TAC91 ITAC1 8TAC91 (Rebanded) FM Interop
852.01250 156.7 PL 8TAC92 ITAC2 8TAC92 (Rebanded) FM Interop
852.51250 156.7 PL 8TAC93 ITAC4 8TAC93 (Rebanded) FM Interop
853.01250 156.7 PL 8TAC94 ITAC4 8TAC94 (Rebanded) FM Interop
866.01250 156.7 PL ICALL ICALL (Old Designation) FM Interop
866.51250 156.7 PL ITAC1 ITAC1 (Old Designation) FM Interop
867.01250 156.7 PL ITAC2 ITAC2 (Old Designation) FM Interop
867.51250 156.7 PL ITAC3 ITAC3 (Old Designation) FM Interop
868.01250 156.7 PL ITAC4 ITAC4 (Old Desingation) FM Interop
So the old itacs are still in use or not? Little confusing. How about input. Everything it totally repeated or is there still simplex? i have it set up the old way in the scanner for Itac1-4R and1-4S and such
Also is someone going to update the DEP freqs as well. They need to have the new 151.355 pl114.8 and 171.575 114.8 as stated in the Connecticut DEP - Scan New England Wiki page.
thanks again guys,
shawn
If I recall, the rebanding of the ITAC/ICALL was one of the sticking points with the Nextel negotiations. They all will be done, at some point there will be both out there, the question would be for how long. If you are doing a major cleanout that will not get repeated soon, swap them. If not, use both then clean them up in six months or so.
Simplex is on the repeater output so you only need to monitor the 85x.x125 frequencies.
chris
Simplex is on the repeater output so you only need to monitor the 85x.x125 frequencies.
chris
@cg,
Thanks chris. I'll probably just sit there some rainy/snowy day and just revamp everything by hand. Might put the 30 down for the software! We'll see. thanks again dude! Really appreciate yours and everyone elses hard work. I haven't heard nothing on the new itacs at all lately!
Peace,
shawn
Thanks chris. I'll probably just sit there some rainy/snowy day and just revamp everything by hand. Might put the 30 down for the software! We'll see. thanks again dude! Really appreciate yours and everyone elses hard work. I haven't heard nothing on the new itacs at all lately!
Peace,
shawn
Hey guys, will I be upgraded if I use my Butel ARC500 software to update from RR to my GRE500?
I appreciate all the posts and effort of those who keep this site running, perhaps your guys don't always feel the love.
I appreciate all the posts and effort of those who keep this site running, perhaps your guys don't always feel the love.
Not sure what you mean by "upgraded". If you are referring to firmware, ARC or RR will do nothing for your scanner, that is done separately. If you are referring to importing frequencies from RR via ARC, you get what you see. If a frequency or label is inaccurate here, your scanner will be inaccurate.
chris
chris
From reading this thread, it seems that all sites (except maybe ERV 1 and ERV2) have rebanded. However, the database still shows some of the sites as not having been rebanded. Can someone local confirm the info? (It affects any scanner that is d/l'ing the database using software).
ERV 1: Not rebanded
ERV 2: Not rebanded
Troop A & I Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop B Cobble Hill / Caanan: Rebanded
Troop B FD / Sharon: Not rebanded
Troop B Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop C & K Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop D Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop E Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop F Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop G Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop H & W Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop L Lake Waramaug/South Kent: Not rebanded
Troop L Simulcast: Not rebanded
Troop L Skiff Mtn / North Kent: Rebanded
Troop L South Mtn / Bristol: Not rebanded
ERV 1: Not rebanded
ERV 2: Not rebanded
Troop A & I Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop B Cobble Hill / Caanan: Rebanded
Troop B FD / Sharon: Not rebanded
Troop B Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop C & K Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop D Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop E Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop F Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop G Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop H & W Simulcast: Rebanded
Troop L Lake Waramaug/South Kent: Not rebanded
Troop L Simulcast: Not rebanded
Troop L Skiff Mtn / North Kent: Rebanded
Troop L South Mtn / Bristol: Not rebanded
The entire CSP system has been changed and confirmed via TRUNK88 with the exception of the ERV sites and another temporary site.
The ERV sites are mobile units run by the radio techs for special events or temporary operations of any site. I would find it hard to believe that they were not done, but since I cannot monitor them, I cannot confirm the change on them
chris
The ERV sites are mobile units run by the radio techs for special events or temporary operations of any site. I would find it hard to believe that they were not done, but since I cannot monitor them, I cannot confirm the change on them
chris
Thank you. I will submit the database correction based on your confirmation.
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