Recommendation for DMR Radios

[AK9R]

That looks like it. I attached the PDF certificate from the Baofeng Website.

If the Baofeng website is hanging their hat on that Equipment Authorization Grant, they need to try again. A Part 15B grant only authorizes it as a scanning receiver. You need to dig deeper and find the Part 90 grant.

 

[W8BW]

If the Baofeng website is hanging their hat on that Equipment Authorization Grant, they need to try again. A Part 15B grant only authorizes it as a scanning receiver. You need to dig deeper and find the Part 90 grant.

The Part 90 is on the second page.

 

[AK9R]

The Part 90 is on the second page.

So it is. My mistake.

 

[PARTHCITY]

That's because they don't exist. He's either looking at a CCR or something used. And since this isn't the hammy forum, I would stay away from CCRs. OP really needs to say whether he's okay with used. Otherwise, he's SOL.

There is plenty of DMR radios that are sub $120. Since OP is askinf in the industry forum im assuming he wants comm ercial tyoe radios. The XPR 3500 and Xpr6500 series are sub $100 all day. 6550 in UHF can be found for $60. 3500s with no display (whihc is another thing OP wanted) can also be found for $100.

 

[bharvey2]

There is plenty of DMR radios that are sub $120. Since OP is askinf in the industry forum im assuming he wants comm ercial tyoe radios. The XPR 3500 and Xpr6500 series are sub $100 all day. 6550 in UHF can be found for $60. 3500s with no display (whihc is another thing OP wanted) can also be found for $100.

The OP is fairly new to the forum so while his question fits in the industry forum, it may not be in the appropriate spot. That being said, radios exist that meet his criteria. However, until he comes back with his usage requirements, it'll be difficult to hone in on a specific model. For instance, trunking would take the all of the CCRs out of the running.

 

[AK9R]

However, until he comes back with his usage requirements...

As is often the case, new user comes to the forum, asks a sometimes ambiguous question, the forum regulars comment with ideas and more questions, and the new user never returns. Not sure how we fix that problem.

 

[bharvey2]

As is often the case, new user comes to the forum, asks a sometimes ambiguous question, the forum regulars comment with ideas and more questions, and the new user never returns. Not sure how we fix that problem.

Yeah, I've seen it before. I might provide a comment or ask a question but never hear from the OP again. And here I thought it was my jovial, good natured demeanor that was running 'em off.....

 

[NovemberCharlie6]

Would you mind sharing what the intended use is.
Simplex, Repeater or Trunking System?
What is your expected range?
What is your expected duty cycle? How long do you want to get out of the batteries?
The more we know the more defined help you can get.

I apologize for the delay in answering your questions. I was asking in regards to a organization that would be using them on roughly 2 mile x 2 mile partially wooded and hilly area. Possibly Teir Two DMR and undecided on using a repeater or not. Ideal duty time (with no more than 10% recieving and transmitting) would be 16 or more hours.
Thank you for taking the time to help!

Use what is designed for the type work which the OP has not replied to even after being back at 11:50 today.
Hobby radios have no use or place in commercial service.
If you are wanting toy radios then you most likely are not willing to follow the rules for licenses power and location.

I apologize again for the delay in answering your questions. I often have slow to no access to internet which can delay my responses. I hope my answers clarify what you were asking. Also, I have no intention of breaking FCC regulations professionally or personally.

There is plenty of DMR radios that are sub $120. Since OP is askinf in the industry forum im assuming he wants comm ercial tyoe radios. The XPR 3500 and Xpr6500 series are sub $100 all day. 6550 in UHF can be found for $60. 3500s with no display (whihc is another thing OP wanted) can also be found for $100.

Thank you for the suggestions. I was asking in regards to an organization that would be using them on roughly 2-mile x 2-mile partially wooded and hilly area.
Thank you again for taking the time to help!

As is often the case, new user comes to the forum, asks a sometimes ambiguous question, the forum regulars comment with ideas and more questions, and the new user never returns. Not sure how we fix that problem.

I apologize for not responding to the replies and questions immediately. I often have slow or not internet access which can delay my responses. I will try to not be part of your above-mentioned problem.

4 Watt output, but used Motorola XPR6350 handhelds match that description......but would cost a bit for programming cable, computer and setting up a Motorola Online account. The XPR6350 handhelds are discontinued, but can still be found in good condition online by many sellers. You get 40-bit RC4/ARC4 encryption standard.

Thank you for the suggestion and detail!

 

[buddrousa]

Most people take me wrong the way I put things but my main reason is I do not want anybody to get into trouble for not knowing any better.

 

[NovemberCharlie6]

Around $250 consistently on eBay, but the Kenwood NX-1300 DUKx is a great radio. Kenwood's have great DMR audio quality and my NXDN NX-1300 has been great for the year or so that I used it every day. With an extra upgrade it will do 40 bit encryption that I think is compatible with Motorola Enhanced Privacy but I'm not 100% positive on that. It does have encryption without an upgrade but it's fairly weak. Stil good enough to block scanner listeners.


K is 450-520 with no front display
K2 is 450-520, and it has a display with 7 front buttons.
K3 is 450-520 with 4 buttons and a full numerical keypad
K4 is 400-470 with no front display
K5 is 400-470, and the same button layout as a K2
K6 is 400-470 with the same keypad layout as a K3

NX-1200 is the VHF version, but I haven't seen many of those floating around. Available in K, K2, and K3, depending on what display and keypad you want. Band split is always 136-174.

Brand new from a dealer with no discount is around $300-390 depending on keypad configuration when I last checked IIRC. Also since K2NEC mentioned it, I'd be willing to program them for free.

Thank you for the suggestion and the detail on the different models!

For licensed commercial UHF DMR, Klein has some stuff in the $2xx range, Maxon in the $3xx range, and the above-mentioned Kenwood NX-1300DUBK is about $400. All prices are MSRP for new radios including chargers, batteries, and antennas. Programming may be extra, though not usually unless complex. There's some cheaper stuff available from others out there on the web, but you get what you pay for (at best).

[Add] BridgeCom had some budget-conscious plain-front DMR radios, but I don't see them on their website. Might be some floating around out there.

Thank you for the suggestions!

That's because they don't exist. He's either looking at a CCR or something used. And since this isn't the hammy forum, I would stay away from CCRs. OP really needs to say whether he's okay with used. Otherwise, he's SOL.

I am leaning away from used, because they are for an organization, though for any personal use I see the cost advantage.
I apologize if it is a stupid question, but can you clarify what you mean by "CCR" and "SOL"?
Thank you!

The OP is fairly new to the forum so while his question fits in the industry forum, it may not be in the appropriate spot. That being said, radios exist that meet his criteria. However, until he comes back with his usage requirements, it'll be difficult to hone in on a specific model. For instance, trunking would take the all of the CCRs out of the running.

I apologize for the delay in responding. I was asking in regards to an organization that would be using them on roughly 2-mile x 2 mile partially wooded and hilly area. Likely Teir Two DMR, though undecided on using a repeater or not.
Thank you for taking the time to help!

Most people take me wrong the way I put things but my main reason is I do not want anybody to get into trouble for not knowing any better.

I appreciate you trying to help people avoid trouble, especially when regulations can get confusing.

 

[K2NEC]

I apologize if it is a stupid question, but can you clarify what you mean by "CCR" and "SOL"?
Thank you!

CCR= Cheap Chinese Radio i.e. Baofeng, Retevis, Pofung, TYT, or any other variation
SOL= Sh*t Out of Luck

 

[alcahuete]

CCR= Cheap Chinese Radio i.e. Baofeng, Retevis, Pofung, TYT, or any other variation
SOL= Sh*t Out of Luck

I was going to say...I can't really clarify the SOL. But nicely done! ha ha!

 

[12dbsinad]

CCR= Cheap Chinese Radio i.e. Baofeng, Retevis, Pofung, TYT, or any other variation
SOL= Sh*t Out of Luck

Growing up it always meant Creedence Clearwater Revival.. Stupid Baofeng has to ruin everything!

 

[speedway_navigator]

SOL= Sh*t Out of Luck

I thought it was short, open, load for a cal kit...

 

[NovemberCharlie6]

CCR= Cheap Chinese Radio i.e. Baofeng, Retevis, Pofung, TYT, or any other variation
SOL= Sh*t Out of Luck

Thank you clarifying. I have heard that TYT is a higher quality radio, is that not your experience?

 

[MarkHamSSE5000]

Thank you clarifying. ........

Given your budget, perhaps taking a look at the Kirisun offerings may help. The Tait TP2210 Kirisun DP405 may hit your price and performance targets without being entirely hateful.