Sacramento Regional Radio Communications System

[RolnCode3]

Those "C SP" channels were a clone of the City PD channels, but on the County system. They were not patched together, it was completely separate.

Now, if they're carried over to the SZ system...well, that'd be a head scratcher.

Also, for those asking about "TG IDs", don't forget that all of those listed in Ant's post are not talkgroups. The majority, yes, but not all (ie. ICALL).

 

[Sac916]

Antfreq:

Thanks for the response on the talkgroup definitions.

From a rock-solid source, I have SP T1, SP T2, SP T3, SP T4, SP T5, SP T6, SP T8, TalkGrps 60720, 60752, 60784, 60816, 60848, 60880, 60912, and 60944 respectively.

I believe these are Sac PD's Tac channels, and if so, how can C SP T1, C SP T2, C SP T3, C SP T4, TalkGrps 60112, 60144, 60176, and 60208 be the Tac channels? Or am I incorrect listing SP T1, T2, etc as their Tac channels?

Same with the investigative channels, I have SP INV1, SP INV2, TalkGrps 61072, and 61104. Why would C SP IN (60016) be a PD investigative channel when there are already two that I just listed? By the way, these are all in Zone 5 (SPD B) of the SO MTS2000's.

emptech

There is a difference between SP T1 and SP C T1
It's my understanding the the " C " referes to "County System"
A Talk Group that is affiliated with the County side of the system.

The way the system used to work, if SPD units traveled too far out of their jurisdiction,
they would lose radio contact with "their" city tower sites. Their radios would crap out just outside of Rancho Cordova.

If they were selected on a County Talk Group, their radios would communicate much better countywide. The new radio system solves that issue by affiliating with various tower sites. That's why at times you'll hear Talk Groups simulcast on both City ( site 001 ) and County ( site 002 )

The fleetmap currently being used and programmed into a lot of radios is basically a duplicate template of the old system. Some of the Talk Groups are obsolete or unused.

I'm certain an updated fleetmap will be developed to adapt to the new radio system and their users requirements. There are a TON of Talk Groups that exist, but are not used. Some are not even programmed into any of the radios.

 

[Sac916]

Also, for those asking about "TG IDs", don't forget that all of those listed in Ant's post are not talkgroups. The majority, yes, but not all (ie. ICALL).

I-TAC 800MHz

866.0125 ICall
866.5125 ITac 1
867.0215 ITac 2
867.5125 ITac 3
868.0125 ITac 4

Here is a good breakdown of Mutual Aid Freqs
http://www.freqofnature.com/frequencies/ca/oes.html

I suggest programming both the input and the output freqs

 

[RolnCode3]

I'm certain an updated fleetmap will be developed to adapt to the new radio system and their users requirements. There are a TON of Talk Groups that exist, but are not used. Some are not even programmed into any of the radios.

Yeah, I asked my boss to request a copy of the updated fleetmap, because we can no longer talk (or listen to) Metro Fire or City Fire. Also, when your guys' patches were going up and down on Friday, I couldn't hear you guys on the old system (I felt bad for the RT and Probation guys that thought dispatch just wouldn't answer them).

Basically, at this point, I'm the ONLY person in the department that has a scanner and can monitor Fire and SSD if/when the patches come down or crash.

 

[emptech]

I-TAC freqs

Antfreq:

You got some numbers switched on one of your I-TAC freqs.

ITAC2 is 867.0125

All the numbers you listed are output freqs, of course,
but you kind of mentioned that.

Why am I up so late?

 

[Sac916]

Yeah, I asked my boss to request a copy of the updated fleetmap, because we can no longer talk (or listen to) Metro Fire or City Fire. Also, when your guys' patches were going up and down on Friday, I couldn't hear you guys on the old system (I felt bad for the RT and Probation guys that thought dispatch just wouldn't answer them).

Basically, at this point, I'm the ONLY person in the department that has a scanner and can monitor Fire and SSD if/when the patches come down or crash.

SD 1 will ( should ) remain patched to the old system for some time. This is to assist with outside agency communications ( primarily SPD )

You got some numbers switched on one of your I-TAC freqs.

ITAC2 is 867.0125

All the numbers you listed are output freqs, of course,
but you kind of mentioned that.

Funny, I cut/paste that from an OES page. Does it surprise you?

Here's another cut/paste job.

I-CALL 821.0125 866.0125

I-TAC-1 821.5125 866.5125
I-TAC-2 822.0125 867.0125
I-TAC-3 822.5125 867.5125
I-TAC-4 823.0125 868.0125

 

[emptech]

I-TAC freqs

Antfreq:

I didn't notice it earlier, your I-TAC 4 is wrong too,

tx 812.96250
rx 857.96250

I could have listed the PLs, but I won't

Perhaps the site you get them from is out of date,
mine are what Sac So believes them to be -

I haven't messed with scanners for years but just
kind of gotten interested again. I just got a BCD396T
and have been programming it, but I want accurate
info, not just guesses.

I had all of the original programming data from 1995
which was programmed into the SO and PD radios.
I had a close friend at the time who worked in the radio
shop. Now I have to go out and find my own info.

emptech

 

[RolnCode3]

Perhaps the site you get them from is out of date,
mine are what Sac So believes them to be -

I haven't messed with scanners for years but just
kind of gotten interested again. I just got a BCD396T
and have been programming it, but I want accurate
info, not just guesses.

I had all of the original programming data from 1995
which was programmed into the SO and PD radios.
I had a close friend at the time who worked in the radio
shop. Now I have to go out and find my own info.

emptech

LOL. Jumping in with both feet, there. There are several County employees on the site, so don't get too worked up about "guesses". Pulling something off the OES site isn't much of a guess. It just happened to be wrong. Any possibility they changed the freqs since 1995?

I had a copy of the fleetmap from late last year, so I can verify all of the TGs on the old system. My MTS2000 doesn't have the mutual aid stuff programmed, so I can't verify current programming. Ant, however, should have access to them.

I didn't notice it earlier, your I-TAC 4 is wrong too,

tx 812.96250
rx 857.96250

That's funny. I have exactly what Ant posted, and don't have yours listed anywhere. Where did you get that info? The Wiki has exactly what Ant posted as well.
http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Common_Public_Safety

 

[Sac916]

LOL. Jumping in with both feet, there. There are several County employees on the site, so don't get too worked up about "guesses". Pulling something off the OES site isn't much of a guess. It just happened to be wrong.

Ha! Great minds think alike...

Here is what I have, and I know that these are correct.

CALL 821.0125
ICALL 866.0125

ICALL 1 821.5125
ICALL 1 866.5125

ICALL 2 822.0125
ICALL 2 867.0125

ICALL 3 822.5125
ICALL 3 867.5125

ICALL 4 823.0125
ICALL 4 868.0125

My MTS2000 doesn't have the mutual aid stuff programmed, so I can't verify current programming.

Perhaps when you get one of the new radios, you'll have all those fancy conventional freqs. I certainly hope you have access to CoTac and CyTac channels.


Now to change the pace of this thread....
Stuff that affects the scanner enthusiast and the public safety agencies that work together.

Citrus Heights PD will start using their own dispatch center as of 0700 on June 26, 2006.
This means CHPD will not be dispatched via SSD. CHPD will handle all of their own Comm Center functions. How this will affect SSD's channel set up, I do not know. What are the CHPD Talk Groups? I don't have anything confirmed at this point.


Elk Grove PD will continue to contract with SSD until their Comm Center is complete. I have heard dates that range from late August to October. I'm expecting October or later.
As of July 1st the contract with SSD will end ( except comm center ) at that point EGPD will be it's own entity. What will be EGPD's Talk Groups when they split from SSD? I do not know.

Alsoooooooooooo a side note.

Expect to hear new SSD call signs for the patrol units around the same time. I "think" the target date is Sunday June 25th.

 

[kma371]

taken from this post

http://radioreference.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=291097




C SP RW = Sacramento Police unknown use ???????

RW = Records and Warrants most likely.

 

[kma371]

Ha! Great minds think alike...

Here is what I have, and I know that these are correct.

CALL 821.0125
ICALL 866.0125

ICALL 1 821.5125
ICALL 1 866.5125

ICALL 2 822.0125
ICALL 2 867.0125

ICALL 3 822.5125
ICALL 3 867.5125

ICALL 4 823.0125
ICALL 4 868.0125

I agree with this as well.

I forget who listed it but 857.9625 sounds like it could be a Caltrans or a CA. Dept or Parks and Rec freq.

 

[servo_fan]

xpect to hear new SSD call signs for the patrol units around the same time. I "think" the target date is Sunday June 25th.

Any chance it will be like it used to be, (e.g. 63 Charles, 42 Adam 2, etc), or the way Sac PD does it now? Anymore numbers in the current SSD unit numbers and I could use them to pick lottery numbers.

Also, I'm sure most of you are hearing more new Sac PD groups now. I've heard channels 1-6 on the new sites.

 

[Sac916]

Any chance it will be like it used to be, (e.g. 63 Charles, 42 Adam 2, etc), or the way Sac PD does it now? Anymore numbers in the current SSD unit numbers and I could use them to pick lottery numbers.

Also, I'm sure most of you are hearing more new Sac PD groups now. I've heard channels 1-6 on the new sites.

It'll be very similar to SPD

 

[Sac916]

I agree with this as well.

I forget who listed it but 857.9625 sounds like it could be a Caltrans or a CA. Dept or Parks and Rec freq.

I didn't notice it earlier, your I-TAC 4 is wrong too,

tx 812.96250
rx 857.96250

It's a SSD Courthouse freq

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[sacscan]

Yesterday I heard the following Sac PD talkgroups simulcast in analog:

60368 Ch 3
60400 Ch 4

EDIT: Heard four more analog simulcast talkgroups today:

60432 SPD Ch 5
60464 SPD Ch 6
60656 SPD Records
55120 Folsom PD Ch 1

Also heard the new SSD T9 in analog on 62864.

EDIT: Heard the new Sac PD Ch 2 (60336, simulcast analog).

 

[servo_fan]

In another thread, antfreq said that Folsom PD started using new talkgroups this week. Does anyone know what the id's are? What about West Sac PD?

 

[CommunistFries]

Fpd M 12336
Fpd R 12368
Fpd T1 12400
Fpd T2 12432
Fpd T3 12464

 

[servo_fan]

Those are the old talkgroups, are they using those on the new system as well?

 

[RolnCode3]

In another thread, antfreq said that Folsom PD started using new talkgroups this week. Does anyone know what the id's are? What about West Sac PD?

I haven't seen the new TG IDs. The ones posted by the dude in Folsom (can't remember his name now that I'm in the reply screen) are the old system. I don't know that anyone has the new TGs.

 

[CommunistFries]

I haven't seen the new TG IDs. The ones posted by the dude in Folsom (can't remember his name now that I'm in the reply screen) are the old system. I don't know that anyone has the new TGs.

Sorry, wasn't aware of that, last night I was getting some traffic on those, but typically it's dead, would that explain why?