San Bernardino County P25 and rebanded systems

[officer_415]

We keep receiving submissions for this site, but no site number (which means the person is submitting based on FCC license info only). Is anyone able to go to Wrightwood and monitor this site?

FCC Callsign WROQ571 (SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY)

FCC Callsign WROQ571 (SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY)

www.radioreference.com

 

[tsalmrsystemtech]

I was able to pickup Wrightwood PD on their Conventional 800 mhz Fill In frequency last weekend.

 

[f40ph]

I was able to pickup Wrightwood PD on their Conventional 800 mhz Fill In frequency last weekend.

Yes, they still have the conventional site at Frost Peak patched into the P25 trunking talkgroups. While you can hear it all the time, Fire and Law units only switch to that channel if the trunking site in town goes out.

 

[officer_415]

We received another submission saying it's Site 39, I've added it to the DB. Feel free to submit NAC, neighbors, and/or alternate CCs.

 

[tsalmrsystemtech]

Yes, they still have the conventional site at Frost Peak patched into the P25 trunking talkgroups. While you can hear it all the time, Fire and Law units only switch to that channel if the trunking site in town goes out.

Thanks. Nice to know why. When I am up in Crestline I can hear them barely but still can pull in a weak signal. Since I mostly listen to the Mt. Simulcast their main repeater is on Strawberry Peak and I do not even need any antenna on my radio to receive that repeater up in the mountains. Get like three bars without an antenna since I am so close and the signal is so strong. Like they always say with our radios and this hobby that altitude is your best friend in the whole wide world. Love it. Can hear Kern County from over a 150 miles away on their VHF repeaters with no issues. Anything in the LA basin no problem picking up any conventional system and every Trunking System known to man in the Los Angeles area and San Diego too with the RCS and The 700 mhz City system

 

[tkenny53]

I will be in WW for about a week, using a sds 100 and a 536, maybe bring the sds200.

 

[tkenny53]

I was up there today for a short time, the P25 tower is active and working. I want to say the NAC was 372h, I will double check, I did not test for distance. I did hear high desert cmd and desert dispatch.

 

[tkenny53]

NAC 373

I was up there today for a short time, the P25 tower is active and working. I want to say the NAC was 372h, I will double check, I did not test for distance. I did hear high desert cmd and desert dispatch.

373h is the NAC
Unit ID 701685
Sys ID 37
Site ID 39
So far from what I can tell, It is only dispatching Desert/River.
My 436, sds100, sds200 all recognize the system and dispatching.
I will be listening for CMD and TAC channels for desert and valley areas.

 

[MEDIC135]

NAC 373

373h is the NAC
Unit ID 701685
Sys ID 37
Site ID 39
So far from what I can tell, It is only dispatching Desert/River.
My 436, sds100, sds200 all recognize the system and dispatching.
I will be listening for CMD and TAC channels for desert and valley areas.

Wrightwood area is dispatched on 3-DISP-2
County Fire recognizes it as D5 North Desert
CMD is 3-CMD-6, TAC is 3-TAC-6 for the area
County 800 has put in a new site in the area due to there being coverage problems
Prior to, we had to use the conventional 800 freqs simulcasted to the CMD channel

 

[tsalmrsystemtech]

Also, for the Wrightwood area put into your radio the VHF BDC frequencies too. Sometimes I can hear comm stuff on BDC channels that are not being transmitted on the SBDCO Trunked System. For whatever reasons why I do not know but it happens from time to time. You can hear some good stuff on good car wrecks going up and down the Cajon Pass.

 

[mtnmadman]

2-CMD-5 (TGID 3507). Any one have the VHF freq for this? Not listed on the Regional Public Safety VHF, cant seem to find any info on this. Trying to put a old analog scanner to use......

 

[f40ph]

There's a VHF linked to 2CMD5 in the Big Bear Valley. Look under Big Bear (BFA V-1).

 

[inlandpatch]

I was able to pickup Wrightwood PD on their Conventional 800 mhz Fill In frequency last weekend.

Not sure if I am understanding this correctly, but LAW-A, LAW-B, LAW-D are analog conventional channels that are patched to an encrypted talk group on their P25 system (VCC-5, VCC-6) correct? So does that mean there is a loophole to hear what is normally encrypted? Do they only patch that when it is needed to talk in a dead zone? I’m never in that area so I would never think to monitor those channels. Am I thinking of this correctly?

 

[f40ph]

I believe you are correct. I know for certain that Sheriff dispatch does not have the ability to patch and unpatch these sites.

 

[mtnmadman]

There's a VHF linked to 2CMD5 in the Big Bear Valley. Look under Big Bear (BFA V-1).

Thanks! Gave it a try, no luck. Maybe Im too far from Big Bear? (RSP area)

 

[f40ph]

It's on Bertha Peak, but is set for low power output. If you're not using an external antenna from RSP, forget it.

 

[mtnmadman]

It's on Bertha Peak, but is set for low power output. If you're not using an external antenna from RSP, forget it.

That explains a lot, just using my handheld! Thanks!

 

[tsalmrsystemtech]

Heard a call go out today on CONFIRE for something out in the desert off of Pioneer Road I believe and they said over dispatch to directly go to tactical below

3545

dd9

DE

3-TAC-22

Encrypted Tactical

First time I heard of a call go out on this tactical. Must of been a very sensitive call going on out there in the Joshua Tree area or the Lurcerne Valley. Just thought it was interesting as I thought it was a V-FIRE Tac but played the recording off the radio and they said 3-TAC-22

 

[f40ph]

Wonder what kind of call.

 

[Eng74]

Robo Rita seems to be down this afternoon. SBCoFD is doing real voice dispatch.