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You may be best served with multiple portables, even if it's a PITA
Novaman,

Most of what I do is on VHF analog, so I carry a trusty TK-2180, but there are a few times that I need UHF, so I use a TK-3180.

I would really like to have one Part 90 dual band radio. But when I look at the cost of a new dual band Viking, Harris, BK or Motorola, and since I would have to pay for it myself, I just grin and bear it and deal with my two HTs.
 

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Thought on FPP. If you are the owner of the radio(s) and maintain and program them yourself, technically you are allowed to have FPP because you are not just a “user” but are a technician for your radio fleet. FPP ban is to keep users (cops, taxi drivers) from causing a problem by playing around with radios. Having FPP on a radio you are already allowed to program with cps (and have the knowledge to do it correctly) anyway is totally in keeping with the spirit and probably even the letter of the law.
 

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Thought on FPP. If you are the owner of the radio(s) and maintain and program them yourself, technically you are allowed to have FPP because you are not just a “user” but are a technician for your radio fleet. FPP ban is to keep users (cops, taxi drivers) from causing a problem by playing around with radios. Having FPP on a radio you are already allowed to program with cps (and have the knowledge to do it correctly) anyway is totally in keeping with the spirit and probably even the letter of the law.
With the channel capacities of modern radios, there really shouldn't be a need for FPP. With an all band1000ch radio, you could load the entire NIFOG database, all your local and regional channels and still have room left over for your ham stuff.

I'm a ham operator, and in past work, a heavy LMR user, I've never had the need for FPP. Even now, my primary portables for VHF and UHF are XTS2500's and neither of them have FPP. My UHF-R1 had FPP and I removed the feature.
 

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FPP is a misnomer on most radios in that it allows you to modify a channel, NOT create a new one from whole cloth. I create a zone of dummy channels (FM, P25 or mixed mode) which I can use FPP to set frequencies, tones, NAC and maybe TG (not sure about TG). Like you I very very rarely use them in the field. I mostly use FPP due to original channel being incorrectly programmed (I know…test codeplug!). if i could run cps on my phone it would be great (wifi or BT programming). some guys have tablet pc small and light enough to at least put in their daypack.
 

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FPP is a misnomer on most radios in that it allows you to modify a channel, NOT create a new one from whole cloth. I create a zone of dummy channels (FM, P25 or mixed mode) which I can use FPP to set frequencies, tones, NAC and maybe TG (not sure about TG). Like you I very very rarely use them in the field. I mostly use FPP due to original channel being incorrectly programmed (I know…test codeplug!). if i could run cps on my phone it would be great (wifi or BT programming). some guys have tablet pc small and light enough to at least put in their daypack.
I don't rarely use FPP, I NEVER use FPP. Ever.
 

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I’ve lost count of the times I’ve had a Motorola radio programmed for what I thought was everything I needed and someone announces “everyone change to this frequency“, which I didn’t have. It’s mostly hams that cause this and I was fortunate to have FPP in some cases to fix the problem. Other times I had a spare ham radio with me that I was not planning on using but it fixed the problem at the expense of carrying two radios where FPP would have been a better fix. Look at FPP as insurance. You hope you don’t need it but you’ll be very happy having it when needed.
 

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Isn't that the truth. And you can still make the FPP change faster than most of them with VFOs.
I’m seeing more and more public service users carrying two radios because one just won’t do these days. When the shtf and many radio frequencies are in use for one emergency, you will miss important calls with just one radio.

That’s why the Captain here is carrying two APX radios.

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Two radios does seem to become the norm at some point. Current JTAC (Joint Terminal Attack Controller) Dual Harris AN?PRC-152 radio setup for reference. Dual keypad/display units as well.

(Of course tis comes a decade after my knees and back are blown out from humping an AN/PRC-117F [and spare batteries], laser, Panasonic Toughbook, along with the AN/PRC-152).
 

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I’m seeing more and more public service users carrying two radios because one just won’t do these days. When the shtf and many radio frequencies are in use for one emergency, you will miss important calls with just one radio.

That’s why the Captain here is carrying two APX radios.

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I have a whole bunch of different Kenwood models mainly used for ham/GMRS and some public safety receive.

The Kenwood TK-5210/5310's I have enabled FPP. Other then to test it out I think only used one time in a few years just change some channel setting that wasn't correct. It works be not the best option.

Even my older TK-290s with keypads can do it.

Best just to use a computer, as it is quick to change a single channel and write it to the radio When I travel for work or for pleasure always have my small laptop that use for radio programming and cables.
 
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