Saying "over" at the end of a transmission

[ecps92]

I've heard it used by schools and such who "think they had to", because that's what they did 40 years ago on the chicken band in their pee-paws pick up truck. It has nothing to do with the protocol/modulation being used, it's the user.

To each, their own.

Exactly, it is the user, likely EX Military or even an Amateur - protocols/practices follow us thru other aspects of life.

 

[dave3825]

the two stations are WQYV287 and WQGR449. The city is Anderson.

What is the actual freq?

 

[LocalScanner45]

What is the actual freq?

dave3825,

The frequency I'm referring to is 461.48750. I'm hearing DMR communications on this frequency not analog. WQYV287 is licensed for DMR but WQGR499 is licensed for analog only, who knows they could be using DMR but aren't licensed for it. The only thing I hear on analog is data bursts when tuned to this frequency nothing else.

 

[dave3825]

I would search that freqs fcc licenses in Georgia also as Anderson is about 12 miles away from the state line.

also heard a little bit of chatter nearing 5 PM as well.

I do hear something that sounds like short data bursts followed by a longer data burst after a few minutes if that makes sense.

How do you have the freq programmed? You say you hear "Over" at the end of the comms. Is that in analog or digital?

 

[LocalScanner45]

I would search that freqs fcc licenses in Georgia also as Anderson is about 12 miles away from the state line.





How do you have the freq programmed? You say you hear "Over" at the end of the comms. Is that in analog or digital?

dave3825,

I searched the FCC licenses in Georgia, it came up with 2 pages of results. I'll take a look through each of those licenses to see which ones might be a possibility.

I have it programmed in as DMR which would mean everything I hear is on digital. Only thing heard on analog is data bursts and the buzzsaw noise when someone talks on DMR, other that the frequency is quite no analog communications are occurring on this frequency. Matter of fact, when listening on DMR this is what comes up;

461.48750 DMR
Color Code 1
Slot 1 TG 1

 

[a417]

What is the actual freq, Kenneth?

ftfy.

 

[LocalScanner45]

I would search that freqs fcc licenses in Georgia also as Anderson is about 12 miles away from the state line.

I narrowed down the possibilities from the FCC License search in Georgia, here's what I have..

Oconee Hotel Company (WPPN903)
Quality Technology Services (WQIR345)
Bridgestone Americas (WQPI563)
Husqvarna (WQSX898)
Northside Hospital Cherokee (WQZB642)
Sunbelt Forest Products (WRVY362)

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

If activity seems to stop after 5PM like you stated in post #4 that would likely rule out:
Oconee Hotel Company (WPPN903)
Northside Hospital Cherokee (WQZB642)

Sunbelt Forest Products (WRVY362): Per Google, company closes at 5PM Monday thru Thursday and 2PM Friday. Closed Saturday & Sunday
Bridgestone Americas per Google is open Monday thru Friday 8 to 5 & closed Saturday & Sunday

The rest don't disclose business hours. Hope this helps you narrow down possibilities. I've sat on certain stations I came across for months, sometimes years before I was finally able to pinpoint a license. Subscribers who rent from radio shops are often the most difficult to nail down. Keep listening to see if you can determine any identifiable info

 

[AB4BF]

The word "Over" is commonly used in military radio communications. That means your present transmission is completed and you are waiting for a reply. "Out" means you are finished transmitting. "Roger" is a confirmation that you received a message. If someone asks you to take an action, "Wilco" means will comply. I previously worked in emergency radio communications and we were trained by an army signal officer.

Copy

 

[LocalScanner45]

If activity seems to stop after 5PM like you stated in post #4 that would likely rule out:
Oconee Hotel Company (WPPN903)
Northside Hospital Cherokee (WQZB642)

Sunbelt Forest Products (WRVY362): Per Google, company closes at 5PM Monday thru Thursday and 2PM Friday. Closed Saturday & Sunday
Bridgestone Americas per Google is open Monday thru Friday 8 to 5 & closed Saturday & Sunday

The rest don't disclose business hours. Hope this helps you narrow down possibilities. I've sat on certain stations I came across for months, sometimes years before I was finally able to pinpoint a license. Subscribers who rent from radio shops are often the most difficult to nail down. Keep listening to see if you can determine any identifiable info

Whiskey3JMC,

This did help narrow down things for me. I'll continue to listen to see if I can determine the user and keep in mind the possibilities that I've found in Georgia. I'll also include the school district that I mentioned earlier in my list of possibilities seeing how it's fairly close to my location.

Yes, I agree with you. It does take time to pinpoint a license and/or user of a frequency especially those who rent radios like you said. I ran into a situation with a different DMR frequency where two different businesses was using the same frequency, color code and slot but a different talk group, come to find out one user of that frequency was a manufacturer and the other was a transportation service. It is difficult to do because you have to listen to two things at once then figure out what you are hearing.

Thanks for your help,
LocalScanner45

 

[bill4long]

I have a question about a frequency that I discovered recently. I've been monitoring it the past few days but really haven't heard enough to figure out who or what it might be, but this particular frequency is operating in DMR mode and is infrequently used. When they are done transmitting they'll say "over" I know what this means but I've never heard it used on a DMR frequency before. I've only heard this used in analog mode on Amateur radio and railroads.

I've looked through the FCC licenses which revealed only two possible users for this frequency. The other possibilities are too far away from my location. The first possibility is a church that only puts out 4 watts of power with no repeater on this frequency but it's licensed for analog emissions only. The other possibility is a school district that puts out 40 watts of power with a repeater. Keep in mind that I'm several miles from the church, to give you an idea it's definitely more than 5 miles.

I understand it's proper radio etiquette but personally speaking I have never heard a school or church say "over" at the end of their transmission which brings me to the question I want to ask all of you. Have you ever heard a school or church say "over" at the end of their transmission? Who or what do you think I'm hearing?

~ LocalScanner45 ~

Let me know when this thread is over

 

[KevinC]

Let me know when this thread is over

It's over when someone says over.

 

[W2JEL]

Over & Out !

 

[garys]

You'd probably have to say something to me if I inserted the take off sequence from the movie "Airplane" here, wouldn't you.

"Roger, Roger!"

I find saying over (or some equivalent) more appropriate on digital. With no static you sometimes can’t tell when the other person is done talking. I get that a lot on analog to digital PS conversions.

 

[RRR]

Railroad radio rules state "Over" after each transmission, and "ut" when you are done.

 

[bill4long]

It's FDNY...TEN FOUAH

Did they need to go somewhere forthwith?

 

[TGuelker]

Metro transit in St. Louis uses ‘copy’ at the end of each transmission. For example :

“Turning left onto Waterman. Copy.”
Then the dispatcher will reply “Call me when you get to Forest Park. Copy.”

 

[gman4661]

Whenever I hear "over," I have this mental picture of a retired Signal Corps E5 still wearing his US Army issued birth control glasses.

 

[mmckenna]

Whenever I hear "over," I have this mental picture of a retired Signal Corps E5 still wearing his US Army issued birth control glasses.

BCG's!!!

Yeah, not army, but I know what you mean. Listened to a lot of SSB marine traffic while up on the bridge.

 

[wtp]

brian and stewie, over...

sorry that it is late, Kevin c, but i just changed computers a few days ago...