BCD436HP/BCD536HP: Scanner issue with simulcast

[Biged1780]

Will the bcd436hp work on simulcast. I have tried the Whistler 1040 it did not work it would hit on frequency that was on texas warn p25 system but no sound even with squelch turned completely off. I'm getting frustrated as this is my 2nd scanner that I have tried to use with no luck. HELP PLEASE

 

[AJAT]

The SDS 100 and 200 are designed for simulcast. The 436hp will most likely not work very well either.

 

[Biged1780]

The SDS 100 and 200 are designed for simulcast. The 436hp will most likely not work very well either.

Thank you

 

[donc13]

Will the bcd436hp work on simulcast. I have tried the Whistler 1040 it did not work it would hit on frequency that was on texas warn p25 system but no sound even with squelch turned completely off. I'm getting frustrated as this is my 2nd scanner that I have tried to use with no luck. HELP PLEASE

The only 2 SCANNERS that are designed to handle simulcast are the sds100 and sds200. Pagers like the Unication can handle it, but they are not scanners. I do not have a Unication, I am just repeating what folks who own one say here.

 

[Biged1780]

The only 2 SCANNERS that are designed to handle simulcast are the sds100 and sds200. Pagers like the Unication can handle it, but they are not scanners. I do not have a Unication, I am just repeating what folks who own one say here.

Thank you

 

[nessnet]

Please note: it all depends on location, location - location.....

Simulcast is simply multiple towers all broadcasting the same control and voice channels.
Because the distance and RF path most likely differs between them, the signals 'bounce' and arrive at slightly different times.
IOW: multipath.

You can mitigate this by using a directional antenna to 'point' at only one tower, if possible.
Sometimes, attenuating the signal strength helps, (if one is stronger than the other).

Or, get an SDS100 or 200

 

[dcr_inc]

Blue Tail Technologies is one of FOUR "scanners" that do VERY well with LSM.. Blue Tail Technologies has a NEW micro P25RX coming out very soon for less than $300.00 with a display

 

[Ensnared]

I see that you live in Chandler, Texas. Please, tell me what you are wanting to listen to in your listening area.

I am going to guess you are wanting to listen to Chandler PD/FD and/or Henderson County.

Henderson County has a P25 system that employs full-time encryption for law enforcement. The Whistler 1040 is a Phase I radio. Hence, it will not receive Phase II transmissions. Henderson County uses Phase II.

On TxWarn, I see a one site in Henderson County; however, I don't see any talk groups for the county in question. There are some talk groups you may or may not be able to hear. These are marked with "D" in the mode column. Hence, you may find action on some of the INTEROP talk groups, particularly the Gulf Coast ones.

I recently traveled through Henderson County. Hence, on Henderson County P25, you will hear fire departments, not LE.

I don't know if the conventional frequencies in Henderson County are active.

I can assure you of one things. You will not likely encounter any linear simulcast distortion in a county/city that small.

When I passed through that county, I got the Hell out of Dodge. I don't trust counties/cities that employ encrypted channels.

Therefore, it would be a gross waste of money to buy the SDS 100/200 or HP436/536HP if law enforcement is what you are wanting to monitor.

 

[Biged1780]

Please note: it all depends on location, location - location.....

Simulcast is simply multiple towers all broadcasting the same control and voice channels.
Because the distance and RF path most likely differs between them, the signals 'bounce' and arrive at slightly different times.
IOW: multipath.

You can mitigate this by using a directional antenna to 'point' at only one tower, if possible.
Sometimes, attenuating the signal strength helps, (if one is stronger than the other).

Or, get an SDS100 or 200

Thank you

 

[Biged1780]

The only 2 SCANNERS that are designed to handle simulcast are the sds100 and sds200. Pagers like the Unication can handle it, but they are not scanners. I do not have a Unication, I am just repeating what folks who own one say here.

Thanks

 

[donc13]

Blue Tail Technologies is one of FOUR "scanners" that do VERY well with LSM.. Blue Tail Technologies has a NEW micro P25RX coming out very soon for less than $300.00 with a display

Blue Tail isn't really a "scanner" but it can receive/scan upto 16 channels. But yes, it is supposed to do well with simulcast.

Just judging by the description, it is a receiver only and powered/controlled by USB connection and not a standalone device. I do not have one, and am just going by the description on Blue Tail's website.

 

[JethrowJohnson]

Will the bcd436hp work on simulcast. I have tried the Whistler 1040 it did not work it would hit on frequency that was on texas warn p25 system but no sound even with squelch turned completely off. I'm getting frustrated as this is my 2nd scanner that I have tried to use with no luck. HELP PLEASE

What do you want to hear? The best way for us to help is if we know exactly what you're looking for.

 

[Biged1780]

Thank you

 

[WX4JCW]

SDS Series or Unication are about the best, the others are not really designed for LSM (Linear Simulcast Modulation)

they really are worth the money

 

[Biged1780]

SDS Series or Unication are about the best, the others are not really designed for LSM (Linear Simulcast Modulation)

they really are worth the money

So are you saying the bcd436 is not going to work

 

[dcr_inc]

@donc13... Blue Tail is a fullblown P25 LSM scanner.. The description you quote is old and for the P25RX not the newer P25RXII.. While it does not have a keypad or display, It has the features the SDS has (Scan, Pause, Priority,Channel Lock out) by using the button on the front.. As for " Just judging by the description, it is a receiver only and powered/controlled by USB connection and not a standalone device. I do not have one, and am just going by the description on Blue Tail's website. " I have several and can assure you it is portable and does not require a PC to operate.. If you require a display, The Wio terminal screen is a direct plug and play display..
There is a new version coming out in the very new future for UNDER $300.00

 

[JethrowJohnson]

So are you saying the bcd436 is not going to work

It should work, but the reception might not be so good depending on the location. Some places it works fine, but other places it might struggle to keep the control channel data signal. I have a BCD436HP and I'm really happy with it, but Ohio is simulcast and I didn't fully understand the simulcast problem before I got the radio, so it does have a little trouble, but it actually does really well, so I wouldn't say that it won't work, but just like everything, it's not perfect. I still like it though. 👍

 

[mass-man]

The 436 HP MIGHT work...depends on your location, what you want to listen to,, what antenna you use, etc. You can either go for a SDS for more $$$ and (almost) know it will work on simulcast systems very well...OR go with the 436HP, with a liberal return policy from the seller and give it a try.

 

[p25man123]

So are you saying the bcd436 is not going to work

Unfortunately the BCD436HP won't work in simulcast all the time. I can say this as owning a 436HP it will not work in my area where they offer Phase II Simulcast for the statewide trunking system. I plan on upgrading my scanner to a SDS100 or a Unication G5 in the near future.

 

[donc13]

@donc13... Blue Tail is a fullblown P25 LSM scanner.. The description you quote is old and for the P25RX not the newer P25RXII.. While it does not have a keypad or display, It has the features the SDS has (Scan, Pause, Priority,Channel Lock out) by using the button on the front.. As for " Just judging by the description, it is a receiver only and powered/controlled by USB connection and not a standalone device. I do not have one, and am just going by the description on Blue Tail's website. " I have several and can assure you it is portable and does not require a PC to operate.. If you require a display, The Wio terminal screen is a direct plug and play display..
There is a new version coming out in the very new future for UNDER $300.00

Everything I posted is from their website TODAY. If it's wrong, blame it on Blue Tail.