Scanning Riverside/San Bernadino Area

[Mojaveflyer]

I'll be out in the San Bernadino / Riverside are in the next couple of weeks for an overnight business trip. What should I program in to my 396T to listen to Riverside PD and S/O, and San Bernadino PD and S/O? I plan on trying to stop at the museum at March ARB as well... Suggestions?

 

[Kingscup]

http://www.scanriverside.com

 

[jrholm]

You could also program in the SB county system 6/7 that will give you the area of San Berdo along the Riverside County line

 

[crackscan31]

You can not go wrong listening to San Bernardino PD (system 10). They are always good for an assault with a deadly weapon, vehicle pursuit or foot pursuit each day.

 

[kd6ecz]

I'm not sure exactly where you are going to be but these are some of the things I think you should have programmed into your 396T:

San Bernardino County system 6&7 (valley):
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=336

San Bernardino County system 9 (west end):
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=338

San Bernardino County system 8 (mountains & Colton PD):
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=337

San Bernardino County system 10 (San Bernardino City):
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=339

Riverside County (The "west" system covers the northwestern area of the county):
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=357

I would plug in the Riverside County Fire, Riverside City PD/FD, and Corona PD/FD frequencies that are listed here as well:
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?ctid=215

I would also program the local CalFire, USFS, and CHP frequencies for San Bernardino and Riverside counties.

I have a p96 file for my Pro-96 with most of this stuff in it that I'd gladly share but that doesn't do you much good for your 396T.

 

[RDCat]

anything for a pro 96 file?

 

[krazybob]

Do all RSO talkgroups appear on all systems, or only select TG's?

 

[zz0468]

Do all RSO talkgroups appear on all systems, or only select TG's?

Yes and no. No, not ALL talk groups appear in EVERY system, but it is possible that some will appear in multiple systems at times. In Riverside's EDACS system, if a mobile is using a west talk group and he drives south, as he loses coverage from the west system, his radio might affiliate with the south system. His west talk group will now get dragged into the south system and it would be possible to hear it. If he doesn't use it for a couple of hours, that talk group will time out of the south system, and you'll no longer hear it there - unless someone else drags it there. It's also possible to force a talkgroup out a particular cell, even if there isn't a mobile affiliated for that, but that's rarely done.

Kinda hard to explain, because it's very complex, but that gives you an idea of why you might hear odd talk groups coming from the various separate systems there.

 

[krazybob]

I don't find it complex at all. Affiliatiuon not unlike a Motorola SmartZone system.

My location in Running Springs allows me to hear just about all of RSO. I haven't heard Santa Rosa. I am presently using just a discone but have an Antennex 6dB commercial stick and a 12dB yagi as needed. But I have placed all TG's in all banks and I am hearing dispatch channels on alternate cells. Maybe the dispatch channels are permanetly affiliated. I don't know. But I am hearing all primary dispatch channels.

The annoying thing is the occassional 5 send bursts of data or control channel using a BC780XLT.

SBN - The Scannerbuff Network - will be placing new feeds online that include a dedicated RSO feed, a Rim of the World Feed, CHP East (although it hears out to Ventura and Bakersfield,) separate police and fire feeds, and an aviation feed. I'll be running 6-9 feeds from Running Springs, plus the 4 current remote controlled feeds out of Whittier, CA.

 

[LZJSR]

Don't forget VHF

More good SB channels:

San Bernardino County Fire Simulcast: 151.145
SBCoFD Rancho Cucamonga: 154.025
AMR: 155.22
Mercy Air: 155.22 and 131.675
SBCoFD Mountains Area VHF Simulcast: 159.12
AMR Riverside: 155.265 and 155.295
BLM Desert: 166.375

 

[krazybob]

Thanks. We have those already but it is good for others to see them. My prior feed was in Big Bear and we provided excellent fire comms from there. We moved down to Running Springs to be closer to Children's Hospital - my 6 year old daughter is a brain cancer survivor and we keptgetting stuck behind the arctic circle leading to Big Bear. The side benefit is AWESOME radio coverage. I mean AWESOME. The only drawback is dealing with intermod and knowing the tricks to minimize it.

Any comments on why I am hearing data bursts on RSO? Is this on all scanners or just a thing with the BC780?

 

[zz0468]

Any comments on why I am hearing data bursts on RSO? Is this on all scanners or just a thing with the BC780?

The Riverside County system trunks mobile data. It handles MDT traffic just like a voice type individual call. It's possible that the data bursts you're hearing on RSO's system is just trunked MDT traffic. If your scanner is able to pick out individual calls, then that would explain what you're hearing. That might also give you a clue as to how to block it.

 

[brandon]

RSO beeps

I suspect Krazybob is referring to the recent problem (?) on the West system with LCN #3 866.7125. For the past week an odd series of beeps have been following voice traffic (on this channel only) which is causing your scanner to lock up. Here is a recording of what he may be referring to. It affects most scanners although the BCD996T seems to handle it with minimal problems.
Last week there was an issue where high pitched tones were mixing in voice traffic. I don't remember if this was the same channel but it was on the West system.

 

[krazybob]

No, that isn't it but is the frequency. Its a buzz saw sound.

 

[krazybob]

To rule out the radio I switched radios and it also has the buzzing chainsaw control channel sound after a transmission.

 

[brandon]

Watching Trunker, the buzzes are the MDC traffic that zz0468 pointed out.
I think you are hearing more buzzing than normal is because of the strange beeps (different than the usual EDACS beeps) on LCN 3 that are causing the scanner to hang onto the channel for too long. Because of this delay/hangup, the scanner starts picking up unrelated MDC data bursts and not moving onto the proper channel as the talkgroup. This started about a week ago and until fixed, the scanner is not going to trunk track the west system at 100%. It's hard to explain but anyone monitoring the RSO West system on a scanner will run into the problem and see what we mean.

 

[krazybob]

That does at least explain what I am hearing. But I am hearing it even on Desert. Remember that I have all TG's loaded for all cells, so I am wondering if this is TG related

 

[DBennett]

SBCoFD Rancho Cucamonga: 154.025

154.025 is Ontario Fire that dispatches for Ontario, Upland, Montclair, Rancho Cucamonga, and I believe Chino Valley Independent Fire district now.

 

[jrholm]

KrazyBob Running Springs is scanner heaven. I work in LA but live in Big Bear, when I pass along the mountain top going through Running Springs I can get San Bernardino, Riverside, and Los Angeles County radios including all the way out to LAXPD.