snorkle
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Does any ham out there know if Schnectady County has any work started on there new trunking system?.
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Hmm, I'm not a ham, guess my answer won't count? 
Schenectady County has only recently begun the process of obtaining the 800 MHz frequencies the system will eventually use. Their application was recently approved by the local Regional Planning Committee (RPC), and is currently in the review process by neighboring RPC's. Only then can they apply for the actual FCC licenses. It's going to be a while until any meaningful "work" has begun building out the system.
Schenectady County has only recently begun the process of obtaining the 800 MHz frequencies the system will eventually use. Their application was recently approved by the local Regional Planning Committee (RPC), and is currently in the review process by neighboring RPC's. Only then can they apply for the actual FCC licenses. It's going to be a while until any meaningful "work" has begun building out the system.
snorkle
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Thanks for the info. I used ham because they usually know what's going on radio wise in the area.Hmm, I'm not a ham, guess my answer won't count?
Schenectady County has only recently begun the process of obtaining the 800 MHz frequencies the system will eventually use. Their application was recently approved by the local Regional Planning Committee (RPC), and is currently in the review process by neighboring RPC's. Only then can they apply for the actual FCC licenses. It's going to be a while until any meaningful "work" has begun building out the system.
Thanks again
mkirker
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I don't think that info is correct. Schenectady County already has the 800 mhz frequencies assigned to them and are pretty far along in the process of getting the system up and going. The system was originally set to be tested in the fall of this year but that is pushed backed a little due to Covid-19. If not tested in the fall then they will wait for spring to test. The radios are ordered and the trunk systems are designed and ready to be implemented. They will be using 11 sites throughout the county. Police will have interoperability with Colonie, Albany County SO, Saratoga County, and the NYSP - Fire system will have inter-op with Colonie, Guilderland, Saratoga and Albany County. All police systems will have DES encryption
If the haven't even applied for FCC licenses yet, system construction and implementation is probably a year or more away. For most systems in that status, construction and testing is usually years, rather than months, in the future.
The info is correct. Their two 800 MHz applications are still pending adjacent region approval in CAPRAD. Region 19 signed off on the a few days ago, still awaiting approval from Regions 8 and 55. Only then can the applications go to a coordinator, and finally to the FCC for licensing. Having frequencies "assigned" by Region 30 is not the same as having licensed frequencies.
Can that all happen fairly quickly? Sure, they could have two licenses by June. The RPC approval is normally the bigger of the hurdles when it comes to 700 and 800 licensing. Assuming the RPC technical committee did their job, the frequency coordinator and/or FCC shouldn't find any anomalies with the application and licensing should be pretty straightforward.
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DES?!?!
mkirker
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Sorry - I should have been more clear. I just meant it's not going to be awhile before the system is implemented. Well, I guess that's up to interpretation of what people think awhile is.
The frequencies are not actually assigned but its all moving along. They don't need to build sites because a lot of them are leased and only one or two need to be built. Of course they will have to be linked up etc.
They were hoping for fall but I am guessing it will be ready to be tested in the spring - The radios are going to be Motorola APX 4500 and 6000 , they will have DES encryption but I don't think it will be full time. Every agency in the county will be using the same radios (I think it's around 1600 total radios).
When I say the "trunk systems are designed", I mean the county has set up how they want the trunk groups set up and how the banks will be set up in the radio etc.
The frequencies are not actually assigned but its all moving along. They don't need to build sites because a lot of them are leased and only one or two need to be built. Of course they will have to be linked up etc.
They were hoping for fall but I am guessing it will be ready to be tested in the spring - The radios are going to be Motorola APX 4500 and 6000 , they will have DES encryption but I don't think it will be full time. Every agency in the county will be using the same radios (I think it's around 1600 total radios).
When I say the "trunk systems are designed", I mean the county has set up how they want the trunk groups set up and how the banks will be set up in the radio etc.
Fair enough, thanks for the updates. Talkgroups, user ID blocks, and zone setups are generally referred to as the "fleetmap"
I'm very surprised to hear that they are going with APX subscribers but will use DES instead of AES...or ADP even (weak, but generally no cost with most APX radios). So then I guess my safe bet came up snake eyes and maybe it's an ASTRO 25 system afterall.
I'm very surprised to hear that they are going with APX subscribers but will use DES instead of AES...or ADP even (weak, but generally no cost with most APX radios). So then I guess my safe bet came up snake eyes and maybe it's an ASTRO 25 system afterall.
For the hell of it decided to look up the ULS here on the DB. They have Phase 1 P25 emissions. Are they going with a Phase 1 system? Suppose that’s to match Albany and Saratoga counties??
Unless they plan to license more frequencies that are Phase 2, and have the NJICS deal, if a Phase 1 radio affiliates, say from a neighboring county, the whole TG falls back to Phase 1.
Unless they plan to license more frequencies that are Phase 2, and have the NJICS deal, if a Phase 1 radio affiliates, say from a neighboring county, the whole TG falls back to Phase 1.
The trunked system is not licensed yet, per my earlier posts. What exactly are you looking up in ULS? Sounds like you've come across their GE and SG nationwide interop licenses. The 700 interop channels on the SG license are FDMA emissions.
The trunked system is going to be a 10 site, 6 channel, 800 MHz TDMA simulcast built by Motorola.
851.2875
851.8500
852.0750
852.3500
853.2000
853.5625
sounds like the same template that was sold to rensselaer co as well
must be that. Thanks GTR.
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