Scioto County Ohio/Portsmouth Fire Disp P25

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I recently purchased a Uniden BCD325P2


Put the frequency in for Scioto County Fire. My understanding from reading since it's one frequency for multiple towers, it's One trunk/one Frequency . I made sure to set it correctly from reading the scanner specific 325 forum. P25 One Freq. I also added the Portsmouth Fire Dispatch, and I'm not hearing anything. If it's slow in the county I get it, but Portsmouth should come thru with EMS calls ECT at least. Unless their EMS is on a separate unlisted dispatch channel.

Or would I need to add Portsmouth Fire in on a seperate system as a P25 standard Freq since the Freq Provided isn't part of the Scioto County Fire one Frequency system.

I can get the neighboring counties of Greenup and Lewis Fire and EMS dispatch to pick up, because they're on conventional still. I added them in under conventional and they work.

But not getting anything P25 related from Scioto County/Portsmouth FD.

Is it possible Scioto has their County and Portsmouth City Fire and EMS encrypted? Which I know would mean no one could pick it up. Because my understanding unless you're intimately familiar with their systems you wouldn't know for sure. You'd just be able to pick them up if they're not. But if they are only those associated with those departments and dispatch would have access to it, so someone with just the frequency wouldn't be able to get it no matter
 

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You might want to monitor some of the TG on your system via RR. The below highlighted are links to live radio traffic. click on the blue link. Try to listen that way to confirm your radio is programed correctly. Also, it appears that the could be some encryption on Portmouth PD, note the lower case "e".


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You might want to monitor some of the TG on your system via RR. The below highlighted are links to live radio traffic. click on the blue link. Try to listen that way to confirm your radio is programed correctly. Also, it appears that the could be some encryption on Portmouth PD, note the lower case "e".


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Thank you. I'll have to check that out! Am I missing something. I subscribed to premium but on the state and county pages I'm not finding where I can find this "corrections" page with the talk groups etc. listed myself
 

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Put the frequency in for Scioto County Fire. My understanding from reading since it's one frequency for multiple towers, it's One trunk/one Frequency . I made sure to set it correctly from reading the scanner specific 325 forum. P25 One Freq.

I think your referencing the 453.95 MHz county fire channel. This is an analog, non simulcast channel, you should program it like any other analog conventional channel. There's multiple repeaters on the same frequency but each has a unique DPL code so only one is in use at any point in time.

I also added the Portsmouth Fire Dispatch, and I'm not hearing anything.

Assuming you are referring to PFD dispatch on 453.4 MHz

Scioto County and Portsmouth police & fire primarily use the MARCS trunking system. The frequencies listed on the Scioto County page still exist for backup use but probably what you want to hear is all on MARCS now.

 

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I think your referencing the 453.95 MHz county fire channel. This is an analog, non simulcast channel, you should program it like any other analog conventional channel. There's multiple repeaters on the same frequency but each has a unique DPL code so only one is in use at any point in time.



Assuming you are referring to PFD dispatch on 453.4 MHz

Scioto County and Portsmouth police & fire primarily use the MARCS trunking system. The frequencies listed on the Scioto County page still exist for backup use but probably what you want to hear is all on MARCS now.


So I'm doing this manually by hand. I don't have any programming software or access to a computer.
I was able to get the neighbors in Kentucky no problem because they're still conventional, you're telling me the 453 freq #s for Scioto County Fire are conventional freqs and I can just program them in like normal, but they're back ups basically and still on the site for reference. Because everything's on the MARCS system now. What would I need to do? Go to the MARCS reference page and look up any of the sites adjacent to Scioto County and input all those site ID #s? Or would the red highlighted one work for each site that's the control? And then input these 453 frequencys under the channels and add the Talk groups Engine183 mentioned on the individual site IDs? Since there's several MARCS sites adjacent in and around Scioto County, I don't know which site the signal would bounce off of at any time/what one they'd use.
 

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So I'm doing this manually by hand. I don't have any programming software or access to a computer.
I was able to get the neighbors in Kentucky no problem because they're still conventional, you're telling me the 453 freq #s for Scioto County Fire are conventional freqs and I can just program them in like normal, but they're back ups basically and still on the site for reference. Because everything's on the MARCS system now. What would I need to do? Go to the MARCS reference page and look up any of the sites adjacent to Scioto County and input all those site ID #s? Or would the red highlighted one work for each site that's the control? And then input these 453 frequencys under the channels and add the Talk groups Engine183 mentioned on the individual site IDs? Since there's several MARCS sites adjacent in and around Scioto County, I don't know which site the signal would bounce off of at any time/what one they'd use.
Looks like Scioto Co Sheriff, Fire, and EMS as well as Portsmouth Police and Fire are on MARCS. Are they exclusively on MARCS and not using any conventional anymore? I can't say. But I can say that you would want to be programming in some of the MARCS sites and talkgroups.

Portsmouth PD and Fire, on MARCS, likely mostly use the MARCS site closest to those departments but may show up on any of the sites in the county. Fire agencies in the county that are on MARCS are going to appear on one or more of the MARCS sites in the county.

So you'd really want to program in all of the Scioto Co MARCS sites as well as the Scioto Co talkgroups of interest (as well as OSHP talkgroups in that district, if of interest). Of course, if there are some Scioto Co sites that you can not pick up a control channel from reliably from your location, and you don't use your scanner mobile, you can omit those sites since they would be a waste of time to to scan.

Doing it by hand is definitely a pain in the neck for sure. But that's what you are going to have to do.
 

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I was getting some traffic. I added all the "sites" by hand and put in the talk groups. Portsmouth Fires talk group is coming in with a strong signal showing, but it's only showing "DAT" for Data, I'm not getting Voice, even though the scanner showing full bars for signal strength when it pops up
 

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Its very difficult to program trunking by hand. First you need to realize the site frequencies are not radio channels like on old analog systems.

The talk groups would be the equivalent of radio channels.

Sounds like you need to read on how a trunking system operates.
 

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Is this Marcs system simulcast? I read that was a problem. I literally have the sites added and the talk groups added from the reference page. My scanner (BCD325P2 - Uniden) is showing full bars when a talk group shows up on the sites, and I'll rarely get an actual voice traffic. It'll flash P25 for a second and I've me a little lip of a transmission. But 99% of the time the talk groups pop up it receives the signal and it's flashing DAT.

What settings need adjusted? That instead of the scanner reading it as DAT it's able to process that transmission into a actual Voice message/transmission.

Or is Scioto County Simulcasting? And that's why the scanner isn't able to convert the signal it's receiving into a voice transmission?
 

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There are no simulcasts around Scioto Co so you do not need to concern yourself with that. There is nothing to be tuned. If done right, with a good signal and no interference, it's going to decode clearly.

Start by creating a system (like Ohio MARCS) -- a P25 Standard system
Then add a local site to it - Name the site - add frequencies to site (program only the two red control channels for the site in the database)
In the system options set it to ID SEARCH so that it will play ALL traffic, even if you don't have a talkgroup set for it
Add your talkgroups of choice to the system
Set up a Quick Key to access that system


That document should get you started. You really need to read it thoroughly since you have no ability to program the scanner via a computer.
 
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