sdrtrunk-vce - web interface, analytics, optimizations - Testers Wanted!

[tylerwatt12]

Its been working good for me, was woundering if there was a dark mode and im just not finding it?

There isn’t a dark mode at this time.

Just to clarify the project’s direction, the version you’re testing is the foundation for an eventual headless, web-based SDRTrunk system. Right now, I’m prioritizing bug fixes, stability, performance, and useful functional improvements. UI theming isn’t a priority at this stage, but I appreciate the question and all the testing feedback.

 

[Fredo68]

Took the plunge and reinstalled as 'upgrade' this time.

I'm only using it for one busy DMR TIII network. It imported only one playlist and ignored the others. This imported the control channels but none of the voice channels for the TIII network. There's 78 channels each for 9 control channels - I'd prefer to avoid entering 702 entries manually. I'd previously typed them in once and C&Ped where needed. I'd like to either import them or be able to C&P.

Also tested LRRP - Map refreshes fine as does the Message window. The Events window freezes after the first few entries. Clearing it solves the problem briefly before recurring.

 

[W4KRR]

Took the plunge and reinstalled as 'upgrade' this time.

I'm only using it for one busy DMR TIII network. It imported only one playlist and ignored the others. This imported the control channels but none of the voice channels for the TIII network. There's 78 channels each for 9 control channels - I'd prefer to avoid entering 702 entries manually. I'd previously typed them in once and C&Ped where needed. I'd like to either import them or be able to C&P.

Also tested LRRP - Map refreshes fine as does the Message window. The Events window freezes after the first few entries. Clearing it solves the problem briefly before recurring.

I had the same issue. I got my playlist imported. Apparently you get one playlist and that's it. Your playlist is stored in a file named "sdrtrunk.sqlite".

P25 works fine. But DMR Connect Plus and Tier III it did not import any of the voice channels or the system map numbers. I ended up manually entering them. However, even after doing that, it seems to ignore them, in DMR mode it appears to just remain on the control channel. I do hear some calls, but I see no channel grant frequencies or alias information.

 

[tylerwatt12]

Took the plunge and reinstalled as 'upgrade' this time.

I'm only using it for one busy DMR TIII network. It imported only one playlist and ignored the others. This imported the control channels but none of the voice channels for the TIII network. There's 78 channels each for 9 control channels - I'd prefer to avoid entering 702 entries manually. I'd previously typed them in once and C&Ped where needed. I'd like to either import them or be able to C&P.

Also tested LRRP - Map refreshes fine as does the Message window. The Events window freezes after the first few entries. Clearing it solves the problem briefly before recurring.

Please try the latest alpha release, which includes fixes for the playlist import, DMR Tier III/Connect Plus channel mappings, copy/paste support, and the LRRP Events window freeze.

I don’t have access to suitable real over-the-air DMR systems for testing, so these improvements are based on code analysis, supplied reports, and simulated tests. Until users verify them against live systems, the fixes are still theoretical. Please let me know what works and what doesn’t after testing.

 

[BM82557]

Downloaded Alpha 6 which is my first experience with this fork, just curious as to the difference I noticed between V6.1 and Alpha 6 in regards to OTA alias decoding , --

V 6.1 --

Alpha 6 --

6.1 and Alpha 6 were running at the same time the screenshots were taken, most of the time Alpha 6 is including a TA- before the alias.

P25 phase 1 (most users are not Phase 2) Site 7 of WV SIRN: West Virginia Statewide Interoperable Radio Network Trunking System, Statewide, West Virginia







The TA- isn't present here --

 

[bg_nashville]

Finally had a chance to install and test it out. I am impressed with the analytics. The large P25 Phase II simulcast system that I have always had problems with sounds flawless!

 

[Fredo68]

Tested alpha6 with the same TIII and LRRP networks. The import works much better with LCNs now included. Their presence doesn't seem to change anything though. Nothing trunks and voice comms seems to be only decoded from slot 2 of the CC. Most calls seem queued and unplayed - my queue just hit 500! The LRRP is the same as before; Map and messages tabs fine, Events blank.

I recorded a baseband file of the TIII network with your fork and played it back in both yours and the Dsheirer nightly versions. The difference is shown in the pics. You're welcome to use this baseband file if it might help? It's 4GB for 7 minutes (or I can make a smaller one).

 

[BM82557]

Alpha 6 and V0.6.1 are running at the same time but are on different P25 systems , in Alpha 6 I am receiving numerous messages as follows --



I tried the submit bug report under help and received the following --



I saved the zip file from the above diagnostics --

 

[tylerwatt12]

Alpha 6 and V0.6.1 are running at the same time but are on different P25 systems , in Alpha 6 I am receiving numerous messages as follows --

View attachment 204366

I tried the submit bug report under help and received the following --

View attachment 204368

I saved the zip file from the above diagnostics --

Looks like it could be from leaving the channel name blank. I'll have an update later to fix this. Until then, filling in that info will fix this.

 

[BM82557]

Looks like it could be from leaving the channel name blank. I'll have an update later to fix this. Until then, filling in that info will fix this.

That certainly explains why nothing was showing up in the LIVE category. Updated the channel info and is working correctly. Thanks for the quick response (and the GREAT audio)

 

[BM82557]

What does -



indicate?

 

[Muxlow]

When monitoring a conventional dmr simulcast "system" that has 2 frequencies and requires 2 dongles and having the web browser open. Is it possible to add a history between both frequencies in the same live window?

So live activity up top and below have the last 10-20 active radio id's and what talkgroup they were on?

And maybe a dark mode option since a bright white screen at night is...well...bright

Photo is an example from a P25 system. Have all this blank space that could house a recent history section?

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

And maybe a dark mode option since a bright white screen at night is...well...bright

Review post 41

 

[Muxlow]

Review post 41

Well...poop lol
Future hope i guess

 

[bg_nashville]

I have started testing another instance at one of my other monitoring sites and the weak signal P25 decode performance is out of this world. One problem I have noticed so far is that the duplicate call suppression doesn't seem to be working. With both Duplicate Call Detection and Duplicate Call Suppression during streaming selected, I am still getting duplicate calls in my Rdio-Scanner feed.

 

[APX8000]

Patiently waiting for this fork to CyberAttack the other fork...

"An experimental OpenAI model went rogue during an internal cybersecurity test, escaping its isolated testing environment and hacking rival AI developer Hugging Face in what the ChatGPT maker described as an unprecedented incident."

In all seriousness I'm not a fan of taking the hard work of someone that they built up from scratch and making a fork. Did you offer to work with the original developer of SDTrunk before you decide to take on this project ?

 

[bg_nashville]

In all seriousness I'm not a fan of taking the hard work of someone that they built up from scratch and making a fork. Did you offer to work with the original developer of SDTrunk before you decide to take on this project ?

ChatGPT wasn't happy with your criticism:

I think that criticism misunderstands what an open-source license is intended to permit.

SDRTrunk is released under the GNU General Public License version 3. The GPL expressly gives everyone permission to copy, modify, improve, and redistribute the software, provided that the resulting version continues to comply with the license. Creating a fork is therefore not “taking” someone else’s work in the sense of claiming ownership or depriving the original developer of it. It is exercising a right that the original developer deliberately granted by choosing the GPL.

The GPL does not require someone to obtain additional permission from the original developer or first offer to work on the original project. The license itself is the permission. It does require preserving the applicable copyright and licensing notices, identifying modified versions, keeping the derivative work under the GPL, and making the corresponding source code available when distributing it.

SDRTrunk VCE appears to be doing exactly that. Its repository identifies it as an operator-focused distribution of SDRTrunk, documents its relationship to the official project, retains GPLv3 licensing, credits Dennis Sheirer and the other contributors, and provides links showing the source lineage. It is not being presented as software created from scratch by the VCE developer.

Certainly, communicating with the upstream developer can be courteous and sometimes productive. It might allow generally useful fixes to be contributed back to the original project. But that is a matter of collaboration and project management, not a prerequisite for creating a lawful or ethical GPL fork.

A fork may also be entirely appropriate when its goals differ substantially from the upstream project. VCE is not merely proposing a few minor bug fixes. It changes the operator interface, configuration storage, web access, statistics, audio handling, and other architectural components. The original maintainer may not want those changes in the main SDRTrunk project, while users may still benefit from having an alternative version.

The more appropriate standard is not “Did you ask permission to make a fork?” The questions should be:

Does it comply with the GPL?

Does it preserve attribution?

Does it clearly distinguish itself from the original project?

Is the modified source code available?

Does the developer accept responsibility for maintaining and supporting the changes?

Those are fair questions. Suggesting that forking GPL software is inherently disrespectful to the original developer is not. Forking, modification, experimentation, and redistribution are central purposes of the license the original developer selected.

 

[APX8000]

Where did I say any of that ? I said "I'm not a fan"...but since the OP liked your comment without responding to mine, the one assumption I'll make to my question is, the answer was no. What you did get right was my point "Certainly, communicating with the upstream developer can be courteous and sometimes productive. It might allow generally useful fixes to be contributed back to the original project." Whether the GPL requires that or not.