SDS 100 Scroll Knob not functioning right

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So you will see posts from me in those other threads regarding the sds100 rotary knob and the standard symptoms I've been having that everyone is referring to. Gradually worsening to the point where it was becoming unusable but I resisted sending it in. Got it in June of 18.

Well here's an unusual post for you guys. Just locking out some objects one day and it was working good. I know that the problem worsened at different locations of rotation so I started running it through the paces.

Because of the water resistance I never tried spraying a lubricant into the dial as I assumed it wouldn't reach its goal and I didn't feel like taking it apart so there has been no intervention.

The bottom line is the problem has disappeared and I had it bad it was almost unusable.

The problem is completely gone and I have no difficulties with the rotary knob when at one time I had all of the standard symptoms experienced.

That's something huh.

I've seen this but mostly with dirty or scratchy volume control pots on radios that have been shelved for years. A lot of the old radios controls would clean up just by rocking them back and forth several times. The rotary controls used with the Uniden models seem to get worse with use!
 
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I've seen this but mostly with dirty or scratchy volume control pots on radios that have been shelved for years. A lot of the old radios controls would clean up just by rocking them back and forth several times. The rotary controls used with the Uniden models seem to get worst with use!
Nobody was more surprised than I was, works great though.
 

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I wonder what the viscosity is for the Mineral oil and Sorbitan Oleate mix in that cleaner you used. It's a shame the controls wafers can't be spread apart just a fraction of a hairs thickness so you can get the thicker lube into the control.
It is something like 2%-5% active ingredients and the rest is some sort of alcohol and should be an easy flow fluid to find its way into the cracks and then the alcohol wapors away.

It's the oxidation of the metal that is the problem and if you had initial sucess that it worked but then weared off after use, then it probably didn't stick enough to the surface. That sorbitan oleate are a some sort of suger type that actually acts like an acid and attacs the metal and transports the lubricant into the metal.

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Uh ohhh.....is that part of the "disclaimer"? :unsure:
From my PayPal Payments page, where you pay for mod services:

"IMPORTANT: If your scanner has any problems requiring Uniden factory repair, send it to Uniden to have them repaired BEFORE having your scanner modified. Modifications to your scanner will void the factory warranty, and you will have to pay for any repairs done to your scanner by Uniden after the modification is performed. Uniden repair will disconnect or disable modifications."

Also, the conversation with UPMan on the subject was in a public discussion thread, not a PM exchange. So I'm not sure how I could make things clearer. If you have any constructive suggestions, I'm listening...
 

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From my PayPal Payments page, where you pay for mod services:

"IMPORTANT: If your scanner has any problems requiring Uniden factory repair, send it to Uniden to have them repaired BEFORE having your scanner modified. Modifications to your scanner will void the factory warranty, and you will have to pay for any repairs done to your scanner by Uniden after the modification is performed. Uniden repair will disconnect or disable modifications."

Also, the conversation with UPMan on the subject was in a public discussion thread, not a PM exchange. So I'm not sure how I could make things clearer. If you have any constructive suggestions, I'm listening...

Actually yes:

Is this a "legal disclaimer (drafted by an attorney)" that absolves you of any and all liabilities in the event a scanner returned to the owner is found to be in a state of disrepair after the modification?

Or...I'm not an authorized Uniden represenative and the owner of the scanner will not hold me liable for any damage which might occur as a result of this modification.

If it was me, I would consult an attorney for the proper terminology to use for my disclaimer. All it takes is one....be careful.
 

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I’ve been informed by a lawyer who practices on the side of consumer protection the following; These disclaimers we see concerning an end user voiding a warrenty due to a mod or alteration performed by anyone other than the manufacturer, or without the manufacturer’s permission are actually born out of practicality. In general, they allow for a warrenty provider to not have to spend time and effort researching if the unauthorized work is in fact detrimental to the operation of the product. The example he gave was as it applied to the automotive industry. A pickup truck’s warrenty did not allow for a snow plow to be attached. But the owner installed one anyways. Then his heater fan motor died while under warrenty. It was determined the fan issue was a covered repair because the snow plow could not reasonably be blamed for the fan dying.

He also cautioned the determination in the automotive example could have gone either way. So, in laymen’s terms, if what we do to the product requires a study to determine if it voids the warrenty, it does. An overly simplistic example of swapping out a control knob with another that happens to fit requires no study, it’s common sense that should prevail here, no wannenty viodance has occurred. But once the enclosure is opened, all bets are off. That’s why some manufacturers include a “seal” that if broken is a dead givaway the case has been opened, and therefore an automatic warrenty void is determined. The common sense aspect comes into play when one fights the warrenty... if a lawyer is hired to fight it, what’s cheaper, the lawyer or a new radio? I believe it’s a practical issue... the manufacturer needs to be protected against claims that clearly fall under unauthorized modifications... a blanket policy if you will... because to determine the difference between if a mod proved to be detrimental or not, a study would need to be performed.

And, as with all lawyers, mine threw in this caviat; It’s not that the mod may happen to be deemed unauthorized, it’s the cost of learning if it changed the manufacturers intended use in any way.

Don’t ya just love lawyers?

My workaround to performing a mod is simply to wait until the warrenty runs out. I would love to eliminate or reduce the raised ridge around my antenna connection on my SDS100. It would allow me to use a variety of antennas I have stockpiled over the years without adapters. I can see no voidance of the warranty other than a watertight seal issue at the antenna mount. But if my radio needed a repair under warrenty due to faulty manufacturing workmanship and it had nothing to do with water damage, I’d probably still be arguing it with Uniden... best to wait a year.
 

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I’ve been informed by a lawyer who practices on the side of consumer protection the following; These disclaimers we see concerning an end user voiding a warrenty due to a mod or alteration performed by anyone other than the manufacturer, or without the manufacturer’s permission are actually born out of practicality. In general, they allow for a warrenty provider to not have to spend time and effort researching if the unauthorized work is in fact detrimental to the operation of the product. The example he gave was as it applied to the automotive industry. A pickup truck’s warrenty did not allow for a snow plow to be attached. But the owner installed one anyways. Then his heater fan motor died while under warrenty. It was determined the fan issue was a covered repair because the snow plow could not reasonably be blamed for the fan dying.

He also cautioned the determination in the automotive example could have gone either way. So, in laymen’s terms, if what we do to the product requires a study to determine if it voids the warrenty, it does. An overly simplistic example of swapping out a control knob with another that happens to fit requires no study, it’s common sense that should prevail here, no wannenty viodance has occurred. But once the enclosure is opened, all bets are off. That’s why some manufacturers include a “seal” that if broken is a dead givaway the case has been opened, and therefore an automatic warrenty void is determined. The common sense aspect comes into play when one fights the warrenty... if a lawyer is hired to fight it, what’s cheaper, the lawyer or a new radio? I believe it’s a practical issue... the manufacturer needs to be protected against claims that clearly fall under unauthorized modifications... a blanket policy if you will... because to determine the difference between if a mod proved to be detrimental or not, a study would need to be performed.

And, as with all lawyers, mine threw in this caviat; It’s not that the mod may happen to be deemed unauthorized, it’s the cost of learning if it changed the manufacturers intended use in any way.

Don’t ya just love lawyers?

My workaround to performing a mod is simply to wait until the warrenty runs out. I would love to eliminate or reduce the raised ridge around my antenna connection on my SDS100. It would allow me to use a variety of antennas I have stockpiled over the years without adapters. I can see no voidance of the warranty other than a watertight seal issue at the antenna mount. But if my radio needed a repair under warrenty due to faulty manufacturing workmanship and it had nothing to do with water damage, I’d probably still be arguing it with Uniden... best to wait a year.
 

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I never even thought about this at all until reading it on the Forums.

I use the scroll knob on my SDS100 and BCD325P2 fairly regularly as I am seemingly constantly adjusting the volume and/or pushing the scan forward. Also for going through the menu.

Hopefully no issues arise ...
 
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