sds100-GPS

[ShyFlyer]

I would want each city to turn on and off at the city line, which isn't possible with the current level of GPS location based scanning technology.

Yes, it is. I do this currently with the CO-DTRS system and other multi-agency TRSs. It takes work, but more of a tedious nature than difficult.

 

[ur20v]

And how many internal GPS units have you installed? In how many different scanner models?

The only reason I charge what I do is because of the labor involved in fabricating the wiring harness by hand, soldering the components together by hand, and manually cutting the hole in the case for the GPS antenna. If that stuff was automated, and the case had the GPS cutout molded in, a $20 price premium would be eminently reasonable.

And I'm sure what you charge is reasonable for the work you perform. You're right, I've never installed a GPS unit in a scanner. However, my education in business and my experience in product development and manufacturing allow me to speak with some authority on the subject. If Uniden sold as many SDS-100s as Apple sells iPhones, then yes, $20 would be a reasonable number. But for the resources involved and the number of units Uniden is likely to sell, $20 doesn't come anywhere near cutting it.

 

[N9PBD]

The problem I see with that is in cities that straddle multiple counties. Dallas, Texas, sits in 5 different counties. If you're in Dallas but in Collin or Rockwall county and have your radius set to 0, you're going to lose Dallas county.

Only if you're outside of the coverage radius (in the database or your FL) of Dallas county. If so, then you've got to figure out what the right balance of range vs systems. I don't live in nearly as large a metro area as Dallas-Ft. Worth, so zero works for me. As the classic saying goes, "Your mileage may vary".

 

[jonwienke]

The problem I see with that is in cities that straddle multiple counties. Dallas, Texas, sits in 5 different counties. If you're in Dallas but in Collin or Rockwall county and have your radius set to 0, you're going to lose Dallas county.

If the Department is set for Dallas city, then the coverage area will be the entire city, not just one county.

 

[tumegpc]

And I'm sure what you charge is reasonable for the work you perform. You're right, I've never installed a GPS unit in a scanner. However, my education in business and my experience in product development and manufacturing allow me to speak with some authority on the subject. If Uniden sold as many SDS-100s as Apple sells iPhones, then yes, $20 would be a reasonable number. But for the resources involved and the number of units Uniden is likely to sell, $20 doesn't come anywhere near cutting it.

I bought a stand alone external GPS from Jon and he does fantastic work.

Uniden will never sell as many units as Apple does. Neither will AOR, Icom, Yaesu, Kenwood or any other manufacture but they do offer internal GPS. I would bet that most of us would pay an extra $60-70 to have GPS built in and not think twice about it.

Uniden has Radar Detectors and Dash-Cams with built-in GPS, so the technology is there.

 

[UPMan]

The reason Uniden doesn't include an integrated GPS in it's handheld units is that, apparently, it doesn't see why someone would use a handheld in a vehicle. It's not because of engineering concerns or profit considerations.

Actually, it is almost entirely because of engineering and profit consideration.

 

[UPMan]

The problem I see with that is in cities that straddle multiple counties. Dallas, Texas, sits in 5 different counties. If you're in Dallas but in Collin or Rockwall county and have your radius set to 0, you're going to lose Dallas county.

As others have pointed out, this statement is entirely untrue. The scanner ignores County and ZIP code boundaries when selecting what to scan. It scans based on distance to the edge of sites and departments as defined in RadioReference database and limited by the RANGE setting set in the scanner.

It is possible that you are basing that statement on the GRE/Whistler method, were the ZIP code input just looks up and brings in the county that ZIP code is in.

For Uniden's method, see How it Works: Location, Location, Location

 

[UPMan]

I think there'd be an issue when trying to select/deselect individual cities that share a common regional system.

Simulcast G of the Regional Wireless Cooperative in the Phoenix area carries 7 city PD's, 3 Phoenix PD precincts, a tribal PD at a casino, the entire community college district security department (with 2 campuses in the West Valley), the EMS TG's for entire regional fire dispatch center, and others.
I would want each city to turn on and off at the city line, which isn't possible with the current level of GPS location based scanning technology.
Outside the metro area, with towns and cities spread farther apart, selecting that system a few miles out would be more appropriate.

It's disappointing, but it is what it is. Maybe in the future, we'll have smarter GPS location based scanning technology.

Thanks all.

John
Peoria, AZ

What you describe is entirely possible once rectangle location data is suported in RRDB. The scanner already supports this but you have to build the definitions in your FL. Defining a geopolitical entity using multiple rectangles instead of a single circle/radius will allow for much finer control of geotag definitions.

 

[Cheeseburgers]

Actually, it is almost entirely because of engineering and profit consideration.

Hahahah how could anyone not like Uniden? It took Paul all of a few hours to respond to a thread I started about a waffle-making capability in the new unit.

hope all is well sir.

-stef

 

[ShyFlyer]

Actually, it is almost entirely because of engineering and profit consideration.

Well, I stand corrected. Thanks for the insight.

 

[KB7MIB]

What you describe is entirely possible once rectangle location data is suported in RRDB. The scanner already supports this but you have to build the definitions in your FL. Defining a geopolitical entity using multiple rectangles instead of a single circle/radius will allow for much finer control of geotag definitions.

Somehow I missed this reply. Thank you, Paul. It'll be something for me to look deeper into, if/when I'm able to afford a new scanner.

John
Peoria, AZ

 

[srpawski]

Has anyone been able to confirm which adaptor is needed to use with the Uniden GPS unit? I am thinking about getting one. I also purchased an OPEK AM-801 window antenna mount to put the stock antenna on.

 

[jonwienke]

https://www.scannermaster.com/Uniden_Bearcat_GPS_Adapter_Cable_for_the_BCD325P2_p/10-731909.htm

 

[KF4JYE]

The cable you need is a BC-UTGC. It can be purchase from several companies. Here's a couple of links:

https://www.uniden.com/shop/communication/gps-usb-cable/

https://www.scannermaster.com/Uniden_Bearcat_GPS_Adapter_Cable_for_the_BCD325P2_p/10-731909.htm

I have one and it works well with both the BCD325P2 and the SDS-100.

 

[srpawski]

Awesome. Thank you both.

Does this adaptor also power the GPS via the usb connection? Also, is this adaptor also required for the 436, if not, does the 436 require any adapters?

 

[billybob]

Garmin

I have a Garmin GPSMAP 64. Has anyone connected to the SDS100 or earlier version scanner to their hand held Garnin GPS? If so what cable did you use?

Thanks

 

[racing1]

Ordered my scanner through zip scanner with a uniden branded gps it came with two cords but the ends are the same on both and neither of them fit the sds100 when they claim the sent the right adapter. Here are the pics of what they sent me.

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[srpawski]

Yep. Looks like the needed cable is pretty much on backorder everywhere except for bearcat wearhouse.

 

[K9JLR]

Yep. Looks like the needed cable is pretty much on backorder everywhere except for bearcat wearhouse.

I ordered one Monday from GigaParts.com, and it shipped yesterday.

 

[srpawski]

Really? They are saying ships in 2-4 weeks on their site.