SDS100/SDS200: SDS200 Weird issue

[Ubbe]

This is a P25 system and isn't using any of the frequencies programmed other than the control channel. All voice channels programmed to the site will be ignored and the voice channel frequencies are only given by the control channel data. So cannot be any mixup of frequencies between different sites.

/Ubbe

 

[werinshades]

This is a P25 system and isn't using any of the frequencies programmed other than the control channel. All voice channels programmed to the site will be ignored and the voice channel frequencies are only given by the control channel data. So cannot be any mixup of frequencies between different sites.

/Ubbe

The frequencies coming up are not affiliated with the site. This would lead me to believe somewhere in the scanners programming, these frequencies were added as another site, or as a conventional system and are not assigned a Quick Key as I mentioned. When you add a Favorite List, or a System, or a Site, and don't assign it somewhere, this is what you see. I've done it myself more than once, and suspect that's what's happening here.

 

[DurangoPursuit2019]

So here's my take on all this. I noticed you don't have any Quick Keys programmed in, nor do I know how advanced you are on self-programming. It appears to me, you're getting another site or conventional frequencies since the P25 and Data symbols are disappearing when those frequencies come up. This would lead me to believe, they're not part of the site you're attempting to monitor or another "out of range sites" control channel frequencies have been added.

In Sentinel, Edit the Favorite List, pick your Favorite List, under Options drop box piick a Quick Key number. After that, under the System name in the right pane, scroll to the right and assign it a Quick Key. While under the same screen, in the left pane highlight the system. This will display additional fields and you can assign Quick Key's to Departments and if you click on the Site tab in the right pane, you can also add a Quick Ket to a site and review the frequencies. From here, I'd pick one site your close to to, cross reference the Control Channel frequencies only from the database, and delete any voice channels you added. This is where I'd start, and continue to modify as you go along.

As others mentioned, under the Site Option tab (not Global Filter), try the different Filters. I've watched a couple of your videos and see frequencies popping up that don't appear to be part of the site. When it sits on the site, it sounds good during the brief video. You might have added some errant conventional frequencies and if they're not assigned quick Keys, this is the behavior that's exhibited in my experience.

I havent added anything. The extra frequencies im getting off the Beaverdale site are coming up on their own accord, I dudnt even know about them until it was pointed out in the ISICS forum. The main conclusion is that Beaverdale either A. Went down completely. Or B. Changed CC frequencies. So until we find out exactly what's up I am just staying with what I know works which is Lee Co.

 

[Ubbe]

When you add a Favorite List, or a System, or a Site, and don't assign it somewhere, this is what you see.

?? Never heard of it, that if you do not assign a quick key the scanner will go crazy.

/Ubbe

 

[werinshades]

I havent added anything. The extra frequencies im getting off the Beaverdale site are coming up on their own accord, I dudnt even know about them until it was pointed out in the ISICS forum. The main conclusion is that Beaverdale either A. Went down completely. Or B. Changed CC frequencies. So until we find out exactly what's up I am just staying with what I know works which is Lee Co.

Correct...the frequencies you see are from another site that's either not in range, not producing control channel data, or the control channel frequencies aren't programmed. Since you're unable to isolate the site via Quick Keys, you'll continue to see these errant frequencies pop up in the display. If you can assign Quick Keys as I mentioned, and assign a Quick Key to each site, you could turn off the inactive site or double check that the control channel frequency is added.

 

[werinshades]

?? Never heard of it, that if you do not assign a quick key the scanner will go crazy.

/Ubbe

Yes, let's say I add a Favorite List and don't assign a Quick Key. When I Write it back to the scanner, that Favorite List will "go crazy" if I have only 1 Quick Key assigned (#1), the new Favorite List does not will scan until I give it a Quick Key. I use Quick Keys in my programming and as I describe, the same thing displayed occurs.

 

[DurangoPursuit2019]

Still makes 0 sense how it would mess up on 1 site but not the other.

 

[werinshades]

Still makes 0 sense how it would mess up on 1 site but not the other.

If I understand what you have there, you're scanning 2 sites? Are they separately assigned under the System/ site tab? Can you attach your programming here and let me have a look at it?

 

[DurangoPursuit2019]

If I understand what you have there, you're scanning 2 sites? Are they separately assigned under the System/ site tab? Can you attach your programming here and let me have a look at it?

Im not scanning 2 sites. I have only every wanted to or been trying to scan the Beaverdale site. After I couldn't get it to work I payed for someone to program it and they programed in the neighboring counties to help with dropping traffic. We'll after that I found out that I could hear the traffic I wanted off of Lee Cos site. Since then ive held the Lee Co site only, and ive only ever taken the hold off to test stuff.

But I'll take your suggestion, what should I Quick key?

 

[Ubbe]

I looked at the RR database and Site 56 seems to correlate to what the scanner does CC857.9875 VC855.2375 VC855.7375
but Site 11 doesn't match at all and I can't find any site to match the frequencies. CC775.84375 VC775.34375 VC775.68125 VC775.69375

/Ubbe

 

[DurangoPursuit2019]

I looked at the RR database and Site 56 seems to correlate to what the scanner does CC857.9875 VC855.2375 VC855.7375
but Site 11 doesn't match at all and I can't find any site to match the frequencies. CC775.84375 VC775.34375 VC775.68125 VC775.69375

/Ubbe

Exactly. I am assuming Beaverdale has swapped frequencies and we only know the VCs not the CC

 

[werinshades]

This is the Beaverdale site you're not hearing?

Iowa Statewide Interoperable Communications System (ISICS) Site: Beaverdale

Iowa Statewide Interoperable Communications System (ISICS) Site: Beaverdale Details

www.radioreference.com

This is the site you are hearing?

Iowa Statewide Interoperable Communications System (ISICS) Site: Lee Co Simulcast

Iowa Statewide Interoperable Communications System (ISICS) Site: Lee Co Simulcast Details

www.radioreference.com

These sites have two different sets of frequencies, and two different NAC's assigned.

 

[werinshades]

So here's my take on all this. I noticed you don't have any Quick Keys programmed in, nor do I know how advanced you are on self-programming. It appears to me, you're getting another site or conventional frequencies since the P25 and Data symbols are disappearing when those frequencies come up. This would lead me to believe, they're not part of the site you're attempting to monitor or another "out of range sites" control channel frequencies have been added.

In Sentinel, Edit the Favorite List, pick your Favorite List, under Options drop box piick a Quick Key number. After that, under the System name in the right pane, scroll to the right and assign it a Quick Key. While under the same screen, in the left pane highlight the system. This will display additional fields and you can assign Quick Key's to Departments and if you click on the Site tab in the right pane, you can also add a Quick Ket to a site and review the frequencies. From here, I'd pick one site your close to to, cross reference the Control Channel frequencies only from the database, and delete any voice channels you added. This is where I'd start, and continue to modify as you go along.

As others mentioned, under the Site Option tab (not Global Filter), try the different Filters. I've watched a couple of your videos and see frequencies popping up that don't appear to be part of the site. When it sits on the site, it sounds good during the brief video. You might have added some errant conventional frequencies and if they're not assigned quick Keys, this is the behavior that's exhibited in my experience.

Im not scanning 2 sites. I have only every wanted to or been trying to scan the Beaverdale site. After I couldn't get it to work I payed for someone to program it and they programed in the neighboring counties to help with dropping traffic. We'll after that I found out that I could hear the traffic I wanted off of Lee Cos site. Since then ive held the Lee Co site only, and ive only ever taken the hold off to test stuff.

But I'll take your suggestion, what should I Quick key?

Try what I suggested here, as I'm not sure who/what they programmed for you.

 

[DurangoPursuit2019]

This is the Beaverdale site you're not hearing?

Iowa Statewide Interoperable Communications System (ISICS) Site: Beaverdale

Iowa Statewide Interoperable Communications System (ISICS) Site: Beaverdale Details

www.radioreference.com

This is the site you are hearing?

Iowa Statewide Interoperable Communications System (ISICS) Site: Lee Co Simulcast

Iowa Statewide Interoperable Communications System (ISICS) Site: Lee Co Simulcast Details

www.radioreference.com

These sites have two different sets of frequencies, and two different NAC's assigned.

Yes yes and well aware.

 

[DurangoPursuit2019]

Try what I suggested here, as I'm not sure who/what they programmed for you.

What do i need to quick key?

 

[werinshades]

Yes yes and well aware.

I understand the frustration, just throwing y programming hat in the ring for you.

 

[werinshades]

What do i need to quick key?

Well...everything I mentioned. Or, if you want to attach it here, I could clean it up for you.

 

[DurangoPursuit2019]

Well...everything I mentioned. Or, if you want to attach it here, I could clean it up for you.

Did as suggested, still doing the same thing.

 

[werinshades]

Did as suggested, still doing the same thing.

Attach your file here so I can see what was programmed. Is there anything else besides the trunking system programmed in the Favorite List column?

 

[DurangoPursuit2019]

Attach your file here so I can see what was programmed. Is there anything else besides the trunking system programmed in the Favorite List column?

I dont even know how to send it here if im being honest