? (and, as someone else pointed out, plus MDTs and other data units).
Signal Hill P25 System
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NancyDrew17
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I only counted LMR. Data was not part of Motorola contract. I compared apples to apples. LA-RICS is $20 a LMR device per month. The agreements are in their website.
Really?
From Scott Edsons, Welcome Message:
And it was NOT Apples to Apples, you picked and choose what you wanted from "the City Website". I would wager the Motorola documentation has provisions for DATA, LTE, PTToC. etc. But without seeing the ACTUAL CONTRACT, we will never know, will we?
Link for actual RICS information here: LA-RICS-User-Agreement-Letter-Website.pdf
PS: In that same message, Mr. Edson notes that any agency can become an affiliate without charge, to facilitate interoperability. So, the "cops in Long Beach/Signal Hill or any other NON subscriber can talk to Sheriffs Norwalk or LAC Fire".
From Scott Edsons, Welcome Message:
And it was NOT Apples to Apples, you picked and choose what you wanted from "the City Website". I would wager the Motorola documentation has provisions for DATA, LTE, PTToC. etc. But without seeing the ACTUAL CONTRACT, we will never know, will we?
Link for actual RICS information here: LA-RICS-User-Agreement-Letter-Website.pdf
PS: In that same message, Mr. Edson notes that any agency can become an affiliate without charge, to facilitate interoperability. So, the "cops in Long Beach/Signal Hill or any other NON subscriber can talk to Sheriffs Norwalk or LAC Fire".
NancyDrew17
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Here is the city meeting agenda on the $3.8m Motorola contract that includes 94 transmitting LMR devices (no data devices).
LA-RICS price for 94 devices is $20 a month X 12 months = $22,560 a year!
According to LA-RICS minutes they are NOT connected to LBPD yet because LB still building their system.
I guess I still don't understand why Signal Hill didn't go with LA-RICS in why Long Beach didn't go with LA-RICS. I guess for political reasons and the taxpayers didn't matter.
LA-RICS price for 94 devices is $20 a month X 12 months = $22,560 a year!
According to LA-RICS minutes they are NOT connected to LBPD yet because LB still building their system.
I guess I still don't understand why Signal Hill didn't go with LA-RICS in why Long Beach didn't go with LA-RICS. I guess for political reasons and the taxpayers didn't matter.
I don't understand how it's apples to apples either. For $3.8M, they get a brand new fleet of in-warranty hardware and probably some other services. How does that compare to only the LA-RICS per-unit "airtime" fee?
Perhaps someone with authoritative knowledge of the total costs of onboarding a new LA-RICS subscriber fleet, who is able to comment, will.
Perhaps someone with authoritative knowledge of the total costs of onboarding a new LA-RICS subscriber fleet, who is able to comment, will.
Hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars wasted (fill in your particular left/right leaning) year after year for who knows how long, and you're... hurt??
Did you offer your vast expertise in LMR, and in particular the nuances of a locally ran Trunked System vs. LA-RICS to let the powers that be of either city know how they were so wrong? How about the many cities that bailed out of the RICS JPA?
Harrumph! Harrumph!
PS: Where is the document "on the city website" that spells out as you have stated that Signal Hill, as part of the contract is purchasing single-band radios "so the cops can't talk to the fire"?
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So, that agenda from October 2022 says it's for 85 radios, 6 dispatch consoles, 3 EOC consoles, on a "3-year contract". Even at $10K each for radios (which would be much higher than recent PS quotes that have been posted), that's only $850K, leaving another $3M for consoles? There's clearly more to it. Is there anything more recent showing what they actually bought?
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What do you mean $3M for consoles? Do you not have any idea how much is costs to build out a LMR infrastructure? Repeaters, controllers, antennas, generators, backup batteries, labour costs, microwave links, etc...
The agenda lists it as a 6-year contract, which works out to around $625k / year. I would guess (and it's just a guess, since we don't have the actual contract that specifies single band subscribers) that includes the system build out accounting over the life of the contract, as is common.
That's why I wrote "There's clearly more to it." Please see the agenda that was linked by ND17, item 12b. It says nothing about infrastructure or any details except specifically the mobile units and consoles.
Yes, the contract term is six years, not three. Oops.
