Sticky Thread For Mid-Atlantic MilAir 2021

[Mark]

Seems this morning tanker was late so NOBLE-01,02 went to Atlantic City for fuel replaced by COSMIC 1,2
in the CAP out of A/C. Tanker GASMAN 1 on station now from Pittsburgh.

 

[BM82557]

KC-135 59-1468 AE0386 out of Pittsburgh arrived in the CAP at 08:40 local and setting up racetrack

On 260.9 at 08:27 sounded like "will use 2992 for air to air"

 

[TerryPavlick]

KC-135 59-1468 AE0386 out of Pittsburgh arrived in the CAP at 08:40 local and setting up racetrack

On 260.9 at 08:27 sounded like "will use 2992 for air to air"

That is the standard altimeter setting for aircraft generally flying above 18K.

 

[BM82557]

That is the standard altimeter setting for aircraft generally flying above 18K.

I thought it was unusual to state "for air to air"

 

[TerryPavlick]

I thought it was unusual to state "for air to air"

Technically the fighters have to deal with both the local altimeter and the standard altimeter. Local altimeter if they are going after someone at lower altitude but if they are simply doing CAP and refueling at 24-26K it is easier for both the tanker and the fighters to maintain standard altimeter. Then they only need to change (if necessary) for TOIs. Not very mountainous in that part of the area (covered by the CAP) so they may just use 2992 continuously.

 

[Yocuz]

OT -
Is TOI track of interest or target of interest? I've been told both.

 

[Yocuz]

Sounds like McGuire ADVICE64 will be a player today.

 

[TerryPavlick]

OT -
Is TOI track of interest or target of interest? I've been told both.

track of interest — In counterdrug operations, contacts that meet the initial identification
criteria applicable in the area where the contacts are detected. Also called TOI. See
also suspect. (JP 3-07.4) and TOI as below

TOC tactical operations center; transnational organized crime
TOD tactical ocean data
TOI track of interest
TOPINT technical operational intelligence

from a small document on the internet.... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...ctionary.pdf&usg=AOvVaw101JCbmU5uJ0Yww8Ng9lqg

As directed in Joint Publication (JP) 1, Doctrine for the Armed Forces of the United
States, the DOD Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms [Short title: DOD
Dictionary] sets forth standard US military and associated terminology to encompass the
joint activity of the Armed Forces of the United States. These military and associated
terms, together with their definitions, constitute approved Department of Defense (DOD)
terminology for general use by all DOD components.

 

[mdmonitor]

1025- Devil 11 (2 X F-16 119th FS NJ ANG) working ZDC Salisbury (257.7) then QSY to Bay Watch (305.2). Adivise Bay Watch they will work in the area for 45 mins then will head back to ACY. Also on discrete (298.6). One Devil makes note of slow moving acft in their area. At same time CAP 1587 (Civil Air Patrol Cessna 172 N257CP checks in w/Potomac (127.95). Devil 11 advises Bay Watch (305.2) that they have intercepted an acft. Devil 11 plays role of Huntress for intercept training. Devil 11 passes formatted report in which he id's as F-16 # 8-3724 & reports TOI is not responding to ATC calls.

1032- Coast Guard 6575 (MH-65D CGAS Wash) working Potomac (125.65) advising he has finished AI (Airborne intercept) and is RTB DCA. Also working ADW tower (118.4) as he transits area back to DCA.

1045- GAF 906 (German AF A-340 16+ 02) off Dulles heading northeast.

 

[RaleighGuy]

Tanker Blue82 63-8029 AE05AC making its way west over PA

 

[Madfox]

BLUE81/84-0192 ott KBGR 14.39z dragging x3 Norwegian F35s out of Keflavik west, BLUE82/63-8029 out of KWRI taking over.

 

[TerryPavlick]

Picking up activity on the feed and direct down here in NJ on

273.950
143.825 Just confirmed Nighthawk 1 landing at KPHL .... Nighthawk 3 flight of three V22 as well. Trooper 1 at KPHL too
375.725 OCEAN C130 presumed ops channel

All air / air

I believe the first two may be related to Nighthawk flight - sounds like a practice flight for upcoming visit.

Terry

 

[mdmonitor]

1055- Blue 82 (KC-135R # 63-8029 AE05AC) checks in at FL300 w/ZOB Imperial (132.125)

 

[jetcrafter]

BLUE81/84-0192 ott KBGR 14.39z dragging x3 Norwegian F35s out of Keflavik west, BLUE82/63-8029 out of KWRI taking over.

Thanks Dean. Got them here! Passing through Maine and New Hampshire SE bound.

1500z
134.700 BLUE 81 flight working Boston Center (ZBW)
289.700 F-35 A-A
293.000 Boom Freq
371.150 BLUE 81 & 82 A-A

 

[RaleighGuy]

N2SP circling, three Ospreys landing at DE ANG, must be close to time to head back to DC, thinking it will be later this afternoon (like 3pm or so) but I could be wrong.

 

[TerryPavlick]

N2SP circling, three Ospreys landing at DE ANG, must be close to time to head back to DC, thinking it will be later this afternoon (like 3pm or so) but I could be wrong.

Nighthawk 1 flight was a flight of 2 H3 helicopters and Nighthawk 3 was a flight of 3 V22 aircraft. The flight from KILG to KPHL was a familiarization flight for the upcoming visit. Nighthawk 1 flight confirmed they were circling the area for familiarization.

 

[vgames15]

Nighthawk 1 flight was a flight of 2 H3 helicopters and Nighthawk 3 was a flight of 3 V22 aircraft. The flight from KILG to KPHL was a familiarization flight for the upcoming visit. Nighthawk 1 flight confirmed they were circling the area for familiarization.

At ILG, 2 VH3D, 2 v22’s and 1 VH-60N

 

[AirScan]

BLUE81/84-0192 ott KBGR 14.39z dragging x3 Norwegian F35s out of Keflavik west, BLUE82/63-8029 out of KWRI taking over.

Where were those F-35s trying to get to ? Looks like they diverted BLUE 82 back east for the CAP and BLUE 81 is now heading east after doing a couple orbits. BLUE 81-82.

 

[jsoergel]

Where were those F-35s trying to get to ? Looks like they diverted BLUE 82 back east for the CAP and BLUE 81 is now heading east after doing a couple orbits. BLUE 81-82.

Via Gary in IL, the F-35s diverted to Scott due to a tanker issue of some sort.

 

[AirScan]

Via Gary in IL, the F-35s diverted to Scott due to a tanker issue of some sort.

Thanks for that. I got them working ZOB just after the F-35s split off from BLUE 81. The F-35s were off to AR with BLUE 82 final destination was to be Luke, but then 82 got diverted back east to take over the CAP. 81 was heading back to McGuire then got diverted to presumably pick up the F-35s again. Not sure what happened after that ? 13:35 EDT and 81 is still westbound. Update - 81 also going to Scott.