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Logged 164407 here at 1045 and again at 1217 as he was about to land at Patuxent.

He arrived from the UK using the REACH 7047 callsign, landed, then departed on a support mission - possibly for an ORI somewhere.
He was also logged on the 26th in Budapest, Hungary on the first part of his flight as REACH 578. That call lasted through Germany and until being logged in the Netherlands where it switched to the REACH 7047 call.


Had a BEN 65 sounded like 1046 local req FL 250 and stay on our route Sea Isle then
South to Kingston then over to Richmond and back to Pax River.
Figured could be 164407.

Yeah that 7047 getting around a lot this past week.
I forget what J stands for,Always with a KCHS Bird on Southern missions I thought.

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Had a BEN 65 sounded like 1046 local req FL 250 and stay on our route Sea Isle then
South to Kingston then over to Richmond and back to Pax River.
Figured could be 164407.

Yeah that 7047 getting around a lot this past week.
I forget what J stands for,Always with a KCHS Bird on Southern missions I thought.

Mark

That BEN 65 route sounds like what Travis posted so probably is him.

Come to think of it, I'm maybe confusing the 'J' flight with the 'H' suffix I've seen for support missions. In any case, like most of the C-17 fleet, this one is constantly busy.

Earlier, we had mentioned all the Canadian "snowbirds" going to the sunny south over the holidays. I've also noticed a large number of Canadian flights using aircraft borrowed/leased/switched from other airlines to handle the madding crowds. On my screen currently there's a PH-HZN belonging to Transavia in the Netherlands on a BWA610 Caribbean Airlines flight heading back to Toronto from Piarco International Airport in Trinidad (TTPP). PH-HZK was also leased to Sunwing.
And a bit later, D-AHFT, a TUI from Germany on a CanJet (CJA987) flight from Cuba to Toronto.
 
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While wandering in the database, I came across a VERY old listing of Combat Air Patrol freqs that could stand some cleanup....

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?aid=1851

With the Inauguration coming up, you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be a very long CAP event....anyone care to pony up some help here to get this cleaned up?

73 Mike
 

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While wandering in the database, I came across a VERY old listing of Combat Air Patrol freqs that could stand some cleanup....

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?aid=1851

With the Inauguration coming up, you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be a very long CAP event....anyone care to pony up some help here to get this cleaned up?

73 Mike

Mike, that very old list in the database contains nationwide freqs that I suppose were submitted over a period of time. All we really need for the January 20th festivities are the freqs used locally....

HUNTRESS 260.9 Primary/228.9 Secondary (Occasionally, they'll use VHF 138.2 or 139.7 too)
Potomac TRACON entry/exit CAP Airspace 135.525/350.25 (Alternate for 135.525 is sometimes 126.55)
Assigned Refueling freq 277.35 but most often heard on HUNTRESS Primary.
The ZDC UHF freqs to hear the fighters coming and going. Tankers use VHF and they are so noisy and crowded that listening becomes a chore - so I generally don't.
If you can find the interflight freq for the fighters to chat on, all the better.

So...put those five (or six or eight) freqs in your scanner, sit back and enjoy.
 
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Then those should be submitted to update that old tired list, for sure. A note can then be added that folks should look at the UHF freqs for ZDC for a/c entering or leaving. It would make it a lot more accurate than it is today.

Of course the challenge is finding the interflight freqs. And for the Inauguration, it's likely Andrews (and maybe when the President elect is in Delaware, Dover AFB, and in Maryland, Martin State) might also play some roles. Lots more here to consider than that little handful, that's certain. We aren't even sure what group(s) are going to play coverage. I would think the Arrow and Cosmic gang, but who else? It's going to be a challenge to find that out - and someone with multiple scanners (like someone we know) is likely to have an advantage with that. And we can't forget the Langley interflights....

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Then those should be submitted to update that old tired list, for sure. A note can then be added that folks should look at the UHF freqs for ZDC for a/c entering or leaving. It would make it a lot more accurate than it is today.

Of course the challenge is finding the interflight freqs. And for the Inauguration, it's likely Andrews (and maybe when the President elect is in Delaware, Dover AFB, and in Maryland, Martin State) might also play some roles. Lots more here to consider than that little handful, that's certain. We aren't even sure what group(s) are going to play coverage. I would think the Arrow and Cosmic gang, but who else? It's going to be a challenge to find that out - and someone with multiple scanners (like someone we know) is likely to have an advantage with that. And we can't forget the Langley interflights....

73 Mike

Like always, we'll have all the freqs posted here within a minute or two of the start of the CAP. Whomever wishes, can just grab them and post them to the rest of the world. Since it will be a fairly short CAP (8 hours), it's difficult to predict who will get the duty. However, I'll stand by that little handful of freqs as being all you'll need.

By the way, the folks in Waco/Crawford TX are into a 10 day CAP over the New Year holiday. That's even longer than those that have taken place in this area.

Here's the TFR for Inauguration Day:
January 20, 2009 at 1500 UTC (1000 local 01/20/09)
Ending Date and Time : January 20, 2009 at 2300 UTC (1800 local 01/20/09)
Reason for NOTAM : Temporary flight restrictions for VIP (Very Important Person) Movement – United States Inauguration Day
Type : VIP
Replaced NOTAM(s) : N/A
 
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With the Inauguration coming up, you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be a very long CAP event....anyone care to pony up some help here to get this cleaned up?

73 Mike

Also with Inauguration Day freqs like Amtrak as Joe Biden and Obama do the train trip from Phila to DC.
I'm sure they will have choppers shadowing the train all the way to DC.
Could be interesting..
You might want to set up an Inauguration Day section.

I wish Dover and McGuire put together a C-17 formation like this in this area.
Would be hectic to track.. :)
Guess KCHS with all those Army airborne troops down that way practice this a lot.

December 18th over Charleston.
http://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/081218-F-1644L-983.JPG

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I quite agree with you Mark. You can put money that the train carrying the President and Vice President Elects will have more ground and air coverage than a rock star. Of course, this is all guesswork at this point, but it almost certainly won't be an '8 hour CAP'. This whole thing will go on all week, regardless of whether Obama and Biden are actually in DC the entire time.

Tin, I'll go and post your suggestions over to the database to get that corrected. There's no point in having inaccurate data there, and it would be an easy place to put 'starter' frequencies, since that data, like almost everything else there, can be addressed by the various packages that support the Web service. 73 Mike
 

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While wandering in the database, I came across a VERY old listing of Combat Air Patrol freqs that could stand some cleanup....

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?aid=1851

With the Inauguration coming up, you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be a very long CAP event....anyone care to pony up some help here to get this cleaned up?

73 Mike


Offtopic: Were the 380mhz JNCR systems in place and used by ground forces during for the last inauguration?
 

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Of course, this is all guesswork at this point, but it almost certainly won't be an '8 hour CAP'. This whole thing will go on all week, regardless of whether Obama and Biden are actually in DC the entire time.

Well, for now, it's an eight hour CAP and out. Of course, things could change as they often do with CAPs. There's one way to find out and that's to keep a watch on the published TFRs for this area. You can't just run a CAP without putting the airspace off limits to other aircraft and that is always done by publishing it. As of this moment, all we have is eight hours of airspace atop the D.C. area that's being restricted. If the train route is to be air protected, that too will be published with air restrictions. Nothing on that front yet.

Brian, there will be a ton of Secret Service communications during that period but it's all encrypted so we won't get to monitor any of it. Perhaps there'll be mentions on some of the D.C. area 380 mHz nets - but where? And, of course, on inauguration day there will be constant craziness on the D.C. MPD trunked systems for those that can hear them in the immediate vicinity of D.C. All the area police departments will be insane because of the traffic. Just the expected 10,000 buses are going to pose a major constriction of the travel lanes on area roads. Where the hell do you park 10,000 buses? Anyway, there will be plenty to hear depending on individual levels of interest in the various systems. There will also be plenty of fluff on the airwaves as media tries to get as close as possible to the events. To each his own, I guess. Personally, I want to hear the CAP and don't much care what the police departments are doing so that's all I'll be tuning to that day unless there is some major incident. Hopefully, that won't take place.

Mark/Travis: I just saw a report on another board with a report/log of Mode-S listening in the D.C. area from 25-28 December. I don't know if it was a visitor or if we have a new member of the local Mode-S club. I don't recognize the email address. I'll try to get in touch with him tomorrow to see if it's someone we know. If either of you saw the report and know who it is, it would be great if we could get him over here.

His report reminded me of something I meant to log here and then forgot. There was a DAWG 04 (C-130H, 80-0323, 158th AS GA-ANG) into Andrews yesterday the 27th. His voice callsign was DAWG 19. He arrived with ADW Tower on 118.4 at 2052. He was in the day before also.
 
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Word on the milscanners@yahoogroups BLUE 41 headed for Gander, possibly with 8 F-15s. Reported into Shanwick around 1100Z I think. So, if anyone's up, I guess keep an ear open.

AR on 340.700

%%%%%% Update &&&&&&&

Don't know if anything came of this .... I heard BLUE 41 update ETA to 50N 50W @ 1344Z with Gander on 8864.0U, but nothing else.
 
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0935 CONVOY 9282 sounded like inbound Norfolk NAS self id as #160051 VR-52 and on
RB as well.
0955 CG 6507 HH-65C to CG 6530 HH-65C A/A 345.000 reports in vicinity of Havre De Grace bridge.
Mention of a jumper.Both seemed to be bugging out with report of boat picked someone up.
CG 6507 says will pick up I-95 westbound to aircraft barn.CG 6530 says going to NCI deployment
sounded like.
1025 RESCUE 30 with Phillips AAF 126.150 moving South from Havre De Grace.
Also showing a Sikorsky S76C on RB for last 20 minutes N2577H (A274D4).Could be him.
1042 That Sikorsky still hanging around at 2950 feet.
1043 ASCOT 4805 C-130 inbound Dover eta 1600z.req parking.349.400.
1240 164404 E-6B showed up hdg 020 up into PA. at FL 310.About 50 miles NW of Philadelphia.
got to run..

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We indeed have a new local user of the RadarBox. Welcome to the forum Dave (when you get here) and I hope you just jump into the fray.

Dave, just to introduce you to the two others with similar capabilities in the area, you'll see messages from "freqhopping" who is Travis in real life, and from Mark, who is, well...Mark.

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A few quick ones on the way home earlier...local stuff.

1908Z 128.350 PT APP - DC 11 (KC-135R 459th ARW AFRC) - vis. 1R into TWR pattern.
1913Z 128.350 PT APP - SAM 3996 - 13000'-12000' req. vis. 1R.
1915Z 351.200 LIBERATOR CP - DC 11 (KC-135R 459th ARW AFRC) - arr. msg in the pattern for the next 20 mins., A1 55K on the fuel req. parking.
1920Z 139.400 Davison AAF Ops "DAVEY OPS" - ANVIS 20 (YEH-60B 78-23013 NVESD Davison) - req. fuel on NV ramp tail #013.
1921Z 128.350 PT APP - VENUS 21 (C-20B 86-0201 99th AS) - 5600'-4000' req. rwy 1L.
 

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1536 local - Elkins FSS calling ARMY 03771 with a request to contact radio as soon as possible - 243.0
1546 - same message repeated - 243.0
 

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FBI N212EB airborne, presumably from Manassas.
1645- JENA-220 with Manassas tower.
 
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E-6B, 164404, VQ-4:
1930: Off the New Jersey coast northeast of Sea Isle heading this way at FL 260 and just beginning a descent - apparently heading back to Pax.
1940: He's continuing down the coast and hasn't made that usual turn across the mouth of the Delaware Bay and over to Waterloo. He's down to FL 210...then FL 180 and continuing on a 220 degree heading.
1945: Just hitting land in the southeast corner of Delaware...down to 14,000 feet and changed course to 240...still not sure he's going to head directly for Pax.
1948: Calls Pax Approach...couldn't copy callsign, suffix 70...leaving 14,000 for 8000...120.05
1949: Calls the Maintenance guys and reports 30 minutes out, 20 minutes from being overhead...mentions 30K gas and plans but was too weak and freq too noisy to copy his transmission...310.15
2007: Still yakking with the Maintenance guys...310.15

I haven't had much of a chance to listen to the radios today but the Mode-S log shows very light activity:


96-0002 RCH6002 20:26:26.875 C-17A 437th AW
86-0020 ------- 19:37:14.875 C-5B 436thAW
164404 -----70 19:31:04.516 E-6B VQ4
06-6165 ROYAL50 19:03:18.219 C-17A 436thAW
86-0020 ------- 18:55:38.547 C-5B 436thAW
N809MC GTI8306 18:47:41.187 DC-10-30 AtlasAir
57-1479 DECEE12 18:17:41.594 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS
98-1358 CRAB58 18:16:37.219 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
N139WA WOA8715 18:12:40.750 DC-10 WorldAirways
------ AVIONICS 17:52:32.562 ------ USAF
89-1192 RCH9192 17:46:58.187 C-17A 437thAW
03-3124 RCH3124 17:29:16.187 C-17A 437thAW
J-… ------- 17:24:00.312 F-16AM/BM NETHERLANDSAIRFORCE
98-1356 CRAB56 17:04:56.187 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
98-1358 CRAB58 17:02:57.437 C-130J ANG/MD/175W/135AS
85-1270 PAT270 17:00:32.172 C-12T OSACOM/Ar.NG
164998 CNV3141 16:47:19.672 C-130T VR-53/AX
80-0323 DAWG 19 16:39:30.453 C-130H ANG/GA/165AW/158AS
84-0124 DILLON3 15:22:57.352 C-21A 118thAS/103rdAWCT-ANG
02-1863 PAT863 14:57:10.207 C-37A OSACOM/PAT
166376 VM101 14:56:37.863 C-37B VR-1
164998 CNV3141 14:53:07.210 C-130T VR-53/AX
86-0201 GONAVY 14:21:04.453 C-20B 89thAW/99thAS
165831 CNV4981 14:17:26.503 C-40A VR-59
167085 ------- 14:12:41.725 T-45C VT-7
97-0401 S3951 1410:11.274 C-37A 89thAW/99thAS
06-6166 RIDER70 14:03:11.359 C-17A 3rdAS/436thAW
84-0131 JOSA764 13:55:56.446 C-21A 457thAS
57-1487 DC 11 13:53:34.292 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS
02.... C102 13:50:06.844 C-143A CGASWashington
99-0402 SAM3943 13:36:26.849 C-37A 89thAW/99thAS
06-6165 ROYAL50 13:32:27.372 C-17A 436thAW
84-0124 DILLON3 13:29:27.315 C-21A 118thAS/103rdAWCT-ANG
161309 ------- 13:22:56.593 UC-12B Washington
ZH866 ASCOT 13:15:21.812 C-130/C4 LTW
ZH887 ASCOT 13:09:29.809 C-130/C5 LTW
166767 USMC767 12:53:40.395 UC-35D VMR-2
166374 USMC374 12:42:17.973 UC-35D MAW-4
167085 ------- 12:32:40.440 T-45C ??? VT-7
86-0201 GONAVY 12:26:00.445 C-20B 89thAW/99thAS
94-1569 BOXR506 12:00:31.534 C-38A 201stAS/DCANG
164404 -----70 12:00:23.207 E-6B VQ4
86-0022 ------- 11:24:53.796 C-5B 60thAMW
160051 ------- 11:21:29.671 C-9B VR-52
2002 C2002 11:15:28.093 HC-130J USCG/ElizabethCity
J-… ------- 11:12:13.093 F-16AM/BM NETHERLANDSAIRFORCE
N14075 ------- 11:07:35.687 DC-10-30 WorldAirways
57-1487 DC 11 10:58:06.656 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS
80-0323 DAWG 19 10:33:55.234 C-130H ANG/GA/165AW/158AS
2002 C2002 10:24:00.078 HC-130J USCG/ElizabethCity
167089 ------- 10:10:42.921 T-45C TAW-2
161309 ------- 10:10:07.937 UC-12B Washington
------ ------- 10:04:28.937 C-130 USAF
02-1863 PAT863 09:45:07.390 C-37A OSACOM/PAT
166374 USMC374 09:39:23.906 UC-35D MAW-4
97-0048 RCH682 00:11:44.715 C-17A 437thAW
92-3292 RCH2292 00:04:19.652 C-17A 437thAW
 
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Paul,

While you're at it, can you change the following Washington Dulles (IAD) freqs please?

Thanks!

Tony

120.250 - now IAD TWR Center (1C/19C)
121.625 - now IAD Ground West (rwys 1L/19R, 12/30)
121.725 - IAD Ground spare
128.425 - now IAD TWR West (rwys 1L/19R, 12/30)
132.450 - now IAD Ground Center (1C/19C)
348.600 - now IAD TWR Center (1C/19C)

Got it Tony! Happy New Year!
 
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