TinEar
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Right Mark. Someone pointed out that message on MilCom to me the day it happened. Not sure what his mission was out there at Los Alamitos but now he's home. Whatever it was, it was a single ship flight confirmed on the outbound leg.
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In the 1100 hour...
A five-pack of F-16s from the DC-ANG at Andrews went up to the W-107 area for work. WILD 1/2 on tac 127.275 and ANGRY 1/2/3 on tac 143.15. They used ZDC-Casino on 285.4, ZDC-Swann on 360.7 and ZDC-Kenton on 277.4 while going and coming and entered Giant Killer's area using 255.0 as always when using that area. TRACON freq 270.275 also used as they approached Andrews on the way home.
There was also a double flight of A-10s from the MD-ANG at Martin State Airport. Callsigns were RAVEN and AXEMAN. Freqs used were 142.3/347.2/297.2.
A flight of three F-16s from the NJ-ANG at Atlantic City also flew and used 138.875 for tac, ZDC freqs while moving about and Atlantic City Approach on 327.125. They used callsign DEVIL 11/12/13.
Also noted another NODAK F-16 flight leaving Andrews - NODAK 33. He used TRACON 257.2 and then went to ZDC-Linden on 319.1 and ZDC-Moorefield on 371.9 as he flew out of the area - probably back to his home unit of the ND-ANG in Fargo. After Moorefield, he was requesting direct Rosewood.
A Dover AFB C-5 aircraft, BOLAR 70, was returning to Dover on 349.4 after completeing zero percent of his training requirements. The problem was that he couldn't refuel - there was a leak. Before landing, he said the aircraft maintenance status was A-1 if you didn't need to refuel it and A-3 if you did.
In the 1200 hour there was diddly...
The WILD and ANGRY flight finished their trips back to Andrews.
A REACH 460 advised Dover Command Post on 349.4 that he'd be arriving in a few minutes, was empty - other than two passengers - and wanted info for his upload. They couldn't give him high airstairs for the two pax so he settled for low stairs and a different exit from the plane. Big stuff.
SAM 28000 (and you know who that is) with Andrews Tower on 118.4 giving a PIREP for the area around the airfield.
Like I said, diddly in the 1200 hour.
A five-pack of F-16s from the DC-ANG at Andrews went up to the W-107 area for work. WILD 1/2 on tac 127.275 and ANGRY 1/2/3 on tac 143.15. They used ZDC-Casino on 285.4, ZDC-Swann on 360.7 and ZDC-Kenton on 277.4 while going and coming and entered Giant Killer's area using 255.0 as always when using that area. TRACON freq 270.275 also used as they approached Andrews on the way home.
There was also a double flight of A-10s from the MD-ANG at Martin State Airport. Callsigns were RAVEN and AXEMAN. Freqs used were 142.3/347.2/297.2.
A flight of three F-16s from the NJ-ANG at Atlantic City also flew and used 138.875 for tac, ZDC freqs while moving about and Atlantic City Approach on 327.125. They used callsign DEVIL 11/12/13.
Also noted another NODAK F-16 flight leaving Andrews - NODAK 33. He used TRACON 257.2 and then went to ZDC-Linden on 319.1 and ZDC-Moorefield on 371.9 as he flew out of the area - probably back to his home unit of the ND-ANG in Fargo. After Moorefield, he was requesting direct Rosewood.
A Dover AFB C-5 aircraft, BOLAR 70, was returning to Dover on 349.4 after completeing zero percent of his training requirements. The problem was that he couldn't refuel - there was a leak. Before landing, he said the aircraft maintenance status was A-1 if you didn't need to refuel it and A-3 if you did.
In the 1200 hour there was diddly...
The WILD and ANGRY flight finished their trips back to Andrews.
A REACH 460 advised Dover Command Post on 349.4 that he'd be arriving in a few minutes, was empty - other than two passengers - and wanted info for his upload. They couldn't give him high airstairs for the two pax so he settled for low stairs and a different exit from the plane. Big stuff.
SAM 28000 (and you know who that is) with Andrews Tower on 118.4 giving a PIREP for the area around the airfield.
Like I said, diddly in the 1200 hour.
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JLHDU
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TinEar said:
NODAC goes to North Dakota...it's a daily flight.
-J
TinEar
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Hi Jason...hope all is going well with your new toy. I'll email you this evening.
Are you telling me there is a NODAK F-16 flight every day to/from Andrews? Or is this not an F-16? There have also been NODAK flights going to and coming from Langley/Fargo over the past couple of days. They travel often, I guess because you can only get so much training in North Dakota. Usually, when they deploy their F-16s to Langley, they use callsign SPIDER while there and NODAK while deploying.
Oh...and is that NODAC a typo or is it really displaying a "C" instead of a "K" on the strip?
Are you telling me there is a NODAK F-16 flight every day to/from Andrews? Or is this not an F-16? There have also been NODAK flights going to and coming from Langley/Fargo over the past couple of days. They travel often, I guess because you can only get so much training in North Dakota. Usually, when they deploy their F-16s to Langley, they use callsign SPIDER while there and NODAK while deploying.
Oh...and is that NODAC a typo or is it really displaying a "C" instead of a "K" on the strip?
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TinEar
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The 1300 hour was another loser...
Early in the hour saw another flight of A-10s off from Martin State. One was an OA-10 using WARDOG callsign. No callsign heard on the rest of the flight. 142.3/347.2...then with ZDC and faded away.
In the pattern and landing at Andrews were a BOXER C-38, REACH 18 and PACER 88. PACER 88 is serving his punishment - many, many trips around the field.
A REACH 2019 with Washington Center on 256.8, 281.45 and 257.7 through the area.
And right at the end of the hour, a YANKEE 90 calling Navy Ops on the Andrews Navy Dispatch freq 386.8 several times but getting no reply. That YANKEE callsign should be a KC-130 from VMGR-452 at Stewart ANGB NY.
And that's it.
In the 1400 hour...
Five minutes into the hour hearing a flight with New York Center Matawan on 282.3 and also I believe the same guys using tac 138.75. I'd bet that's a flight going to the Warren Grove Range. I heard nothing further from them until 1450 when they became active again on the 138.75 freq. No callsigns used.
At about 10 after the hour there are several Center freqs active with military flights...ZNY 282.3 Matawan, ZNY 284.75 Barnstable, ZDC 380.3 Blackstone and ZDC 282.2 Casanova all have flights through the area.
Late in the hour is a flight of two F-16s from NJ-ANG. They worked ZDC-Casino leaving their area and flew down this way using tac 138.875. Their callsign is BICEP 11/12. They are not working the regular Pax River Range area because of weather. They had to find a place where they could see the ground. During ground attacks, the low aircraft is working at 4,000 feet or below.
More flights of military aircraft on Center freqs....at least two, maybe three flights through the area using ZDC 284.7 Montebello, someone else on ZDC 360.85 Irons.
Bits and pieces...There was a REACH 811 going into Martin State with ground on 121.8, a MUSSEL 07 landing Andrews, PACER 88 still around and around at Andrews in the pattern. There was some U/I activity on 139.85 - didn't sound like a fighter though. BOXER 32 was in the pattern at Andrews and a DC KC-135 tanker was up with LIBERATOR on his squadron freq 351.2.
F-16s from the VA-ANG at Richmond were up...activity very weak on tac 141.6 and with ZDC 263.1 Azalea.
In the 1500 hour....
WISE 81, a C-130, going into Dover on 349.4. Around 1530, he made the mistake of calling Dover Command Post on ZDC 279.65 Wilmington's freq.
DC ?91? (KC-135 Andrews) airborne on the hour as reported on 351.2
The A-10s from Martin State returning to the area around 1515...142.3/347.2/297.2
JOSA 484, a C-21, going into Andrews to drop off and pick up pax...heading for Scott next. Using V-141.55 at 1518. The REACH 18 aircraft we heard landing at Andrews in the 1300 hour, reports takeoff from Andrews on 378.1 at 2018Z. He repeats that message a couple of minutes later by saying, "JOSA 973, also known as REACH 18," etc.
At 1531, a German Air Force 189 began calling Andrews Command Post on 141.55. After several attempts, he got no reply. Later, at 1549, I catch him talking - probably to Navy Ops at Andrews - on 139.3 where he is asking to be refueled and needing 16,000 pounds. The rest of his message was too weak to copy.
The NJ BICEP flight still working targets at Pax on tac 138.875. They are working with a ground controller callsign COWBOY. They also advised BayWatch on 354.8 that when they finished their activity, they would go direct Atlantic City at 7,000 feet. Late in the hour, the BICEP flight is heading back home. I hear them on the way talking to Dover Approach on 257.875 where they may be doing a touch and go before proceeding home to KACY. Flight leader says to "push 6" but are apparently told to stay with Dover where flight leader says he'll stay while he goes direct Atlantic City. At 1558 he requests descent down to 4,000 so we can say goodbye to this pair of F-16s.
There continues to be military flights using the ZNY and ZDC Center UHF freqs that are right on the margin of being able to be heard. They are just too weak to pick out callsigns. Today is a noisy atmospherics day with a high noise level across the MilAir band making weaker transmissions almost impossible to copy. At 1554, I'm hearing a flight of U/I fighters using 139.9. This is normally the DC-ANG's SOF freq but these guys are from some other unit just flying through the area. I believe I've heard the MAPLE callsign from the VT-ANG at Burlington using this tac freq in the past.
At 1600...END OF REPORT
Early in the hour saw another flight of A-10s off from Martin State. One was an OA-10 using WARDOG callsign. No callsign heard on the rest of the flight. 142.3/347.2...then with ZDC and faded away.
In the pattern and landing at Andrews were a BOXER C-38, REACH 18 and PACER 88. PACER 88 is serving his punishment - many, many trips around the field.
A REACH 2019 with Washington Center on 256.8, 281.45 and 257.7 through the area.
And right at the end of the hour, a YANKEE 90 calling Navy Ops on the Andrews Navy Dispatch freq 386.8 several times but getting no reply. That YANKEE callsign should be a KC-130 from VMGR-452 at Stewart ANGB NY.
And that's it.
In the 1400 hour...
Five minutes into the hour hearing a flight with New York Center Matawan on 282.3 and also I believe the same guys using tac 138.75. I'd bet that's a flight going to the Warren Grove Range. I heard nothing further from them until 1450 when they became active again on the 138.75 freq. No callsigns used.
At about 10 after the hour there are several Center freqs active with military flights...ZNY 282.3 Matawan, ZNY 284.75 Barnstable, ZDC 380.3 Blackstone and ZDC 282.2 Casanova all have flights through the area.
Late in the hour is a flight of two F-16s from NJ-ANG. They worked ZDC-Casino leaving their area and flew down this way using tac 138.875. Their callsign is BICEP 11/12. They are not working the regular Pax River Range area because of weather. They had to find a place where they could see the ground. During ground attacks, the low aircraft is working at 4,000 feet or below.
More flights of military aircraft on Center freqs....at least two, maybe three flights through the area using ZDC 284.7 Montebello, someone else on ZDC 360.85 Irons.
Bits and pieces...There was a REACH 811 going into Martin State with ground on 121.8, a MUSSEL 07 landing Andrews, PACER 88 still around and around at Andrews in the pattern. There was some U/I activity on 139.85 - didn't sound like a fighter though. BOXER 32 was in the pattern at Andrews and a DC KC-135 tanker was up with LIBERATOR on his squadron freq 351.2.
F-16s from the VA-ANG at Richmond were up...activity very weak on tac 141.6 and with ZDC 263.1 Azalea.
In the 1500 hour....
WISE 81, a C-130, going into Dover on 349.4. Around 1530, he made the mistake of calling Dover Command Post on ZDC 279.65 Wilmington's freq.
DC ?91? (KC-135 Andrews) airborne on the hour as reported on 351.2
The A-10s from Martin State returning to the area around 1515...142.3/347.2/297.2
JOSA 484, a C-21, going into Andrews to drop off and pick up pax...heading for Scott next. Using V-141.55 at 1518. The REACH 18 aircraft we heard landing at Andrews in the 1300 hour, reports takeoff from Andrews on 378.1 at 2018Z. He repeats that message a couple of minutes later by saying, "JOSA 973, also known as REACH 18," etc.
At 1531, a German Air Force 189 began calling Andrews Command Post on 141.55. After several attempts, he got no reply. Later, at 1549, I catch him talking - probably to Navy Ops at Andrews - on 139.3 where he is asking to be refueled and needing 16,000 pounds. The rest of his message was too weak to copy.
The NJ BICEP flight still working targets at Pax on tac 138.875. They are working with a ground controller callsign COWBOY. They also advised BayWatch on 354.8 that when they finished their activity, they would go direct Atlantic City at 7,000 feet. Late in the hour, the BICEP flight is heading back home. I hear them on the way talking to Dover Approach on 257.875 where they may be doing a touch and go before proceeding home to KACY. Flight leader says to "push 6" but are apparently told to stay with Dover where flight leader says he'll stay while he goes direct Atlantic City. At 1558 he requests descent down to 4,000 so we can say goodbye to this pair of F-16s.
There continues to be military flights using the ZNY and ZDC Center UHF freqs that are right on the margin of being able to be heard. They are just too weak to pick out callsigns. Today is a noisy atmospherics day with a high noise level across the MilAir band making weaker transmissions almost impossible to copy. At 1554, I'm hearing a flight of U/I fighters using 139.9. This is normally the DC-ANG's SOF freq but these guys are from some other unit just flying through the area. I believe I've heard the MAPLE callsign from the VT-ANG at Burlington using this tac freq in the past.
At 1600...END OF REPORT
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JLHDU
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TinEar said:
I'm not positive...I'll check tonight.
-J
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Some evening transports jumping around...
1909: JOSA 311 reports airborne from Andrews at 2356Z «378.1»
1937: JOSA 044, tail #40090, arriving McGuire at 0110Z, A-1, needs 3K fuel, has an A-5, an A-6 plus 4 pax. the A-5 and A-6 do not request honors. Will release 7 seats on the outbound flight which should takeoff at 0320Z for FFO (Wright-Patterson AFB) «319.4»
1945: JOSA 484 reports takeoff time from Andrews was 0041Z «378.1»
1946: JOSA 963, tail #40077 will arrive Andrews in 30 minutes, is A-1, home station aircraft that is ending mission upon landing...has 3 pax to dropoff with a D/V-4 among them. Needs crew bus. «378.1»
2021: REACH 687T reports out of the blocks at 0114 and airborne at 0119Z from Andrews «378.1»
2027: REACH 687T tells McGuire CP he'll be arriving at 0155Z, is A-1, needs fleet lav service, crew transportation for 3 and parking. He has no pax or cargo and sports tail #44135. «319.4»
2126: JOSA 311 calling SAM Command...no reply. «378.1»
2156: BOLAR 92 (C-5 Dover) to Command Post reports arriving at Dover in 15 minutes, A-1, plans to do some tactical training once on the ground. «349.4»
2249: REACH 681T to McGuire CP to report a problem with the co-pilot's ???? missing. «319.4»
2251: Evac 33119 calling Andrews...no reply «378.1»
2300: Evac 33119 arriving Andrews in 20 minutes, is A-1, has 19 litter patients and 20 ambulatory patients (fades), needs Customs and has a baggage pallet that needs to come off the plane. «378.1»
2301: No reply from Andrews to his message, so 33119 goes to «141.55» to repeat the part about needing Customs and the baggage pallet...gets parking in 13 row.
1909: JOSA 311 reports airborne from Andrews at 2356Z «378.1»
1937: JOSA 044, tail #40090, arriving McGuire at 0110Z, A-1, needs 3K fuel, has an A-5, an A-6 plus 4 pax. the A-5 and A-6 do not request honors. Will release 7 seats on the outbound flight which should takeoff at 0320Z for FFO (Wright-Patterson AFB) «319.4»
1945: JOSA 484 reports takeoff time from Andrews was 0041Z «378.1»
1946: JOSA 963, tail #40077 will arrive Andrews in 30 minutes, is A-1, home station aircraft that is ending mission upon landing...has 3 pax to dropoff with a D/V-4 among them. Needs crew bus. «378.1»
2021: REACH 687T reports out of the blocks at 0114 and airborne at 0119Z from Andrews «378.1»
2027: REACH 687T tells McGuire CP he'll be arriving at 0155Z, is A-1, needs fleet lav service, crew transportation for 3 and parking. He has no pax or cargo and sports tail #44135. «319.4»
2126: JOSA 311 calling SAM Command...no reply. «378.1»
2156: BOLAR 92 (C-5 Dover) to Command Post reports arriving at Dover in 15 minutes, A-1, plans to do some tactical training once on the ground. «349.4»
2249: REACH 681T to McGuire CP to report a problem with the co-pilot's ???? missing. «319.4»
2251: Evac 33119 calling Andrews...no reply «378.1»
2300: Evac 33119 arriving Andrews in 20 minutes, is A-1, has 19 litter patients and 20 ambulatory patients (fades), needs Customs and has a baggage pallet that needs to come off the plane. «378.1»
2301: No reply from Andrews to his message, so 33119 goes to «141.55» to repeat the part about needing Customs and the baggage pallet...gets parking in 13 row.
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282.425 Omaha-3 has a target at 313 for 26.
Now 271 for 18 miles
Omaha-3 asked to contact Leesburg FBO for helicopter ops in the area. I looked out my window and could see what looks like a Medstar helo.
1005-Now I can see the Omaha helo approaching from the east.
1007- Medstar is long gone to the west. Omaha updated with target info of 296 for 8, then 293 for 6.
Sounds like the target landed. Omaha-3 will land and check it out.
1018- Nope, not Medstar.
N-number : N122TV
Aircraft Serial Number : 1049
Aircraft Manufacturer : ENSTROM HELICOPTER CORP
Model : 280C
Engine Manufacturer : LYCOMING
Model : HI0-360 SER
Aircraft Year : 1976
Owner Name : OCTORARA HELICOPTERS LLC
Owner Address : 543 HAMILTON RD
COCHRANVILLE, PA, 19330-1807
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 11-Apr-2002
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Normal
Definately not the helo I saw take off. But it does resemble ones I've seen flying in the area. Omaha-3 reports that it landed at a residence, but nobody is around.
1023-Reported finding the pilot who had a VFR flight plan and then had some mechanical problems
1053- The helo pilot made contact on 125.05 saying he was going airborne and would be enroute to Winchester, then switched over to 125.8.
I've also been able to track Omaha-1 enroute back to DCA on 125.8 and 125.05 Given Class B west of and around Dulles at 3500ft.
Now 271 for 18 miles
Omaha-3 asked to contact Leesburg FBO for helicopter ops in the area. I looked out my window and could see what looks like a Medstar helo.
1005-Now I can see the Omaha helo approaching from the east.
1007- Medstar is long gone to the west. Omaha updated with target info of 296 for 8, then 293 for 6.
Sounds like the target landed. Omaha-3 will land and check it out.
1018- Nope, not Medstar.
N-number : N122TV
Aircraft Serial Number : 1049
Aircraft Manufacturer : ENSTROM HELICOPTER CORP
Model : 280C
Engine Manufacturer : LYCOMING
Model : HI0-360 SER
Aircraft Year : 1976
Owner Name : OCTORARA HELICOPTERS LLC
Owner Address : 543 HAMILTON RD
COCHRANVILLE, PA, 19330-1807
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 11-Apr-2002
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Normal
Definately not the helo I saw take off. But it does resemble ones I've seen flying in the area. Omaha-3 reports that it landed at a residence, but nobody is around.
1023-Reported finding the pilot who had a VFR flight plan and then had some mechanical problems
1053- The helo pilot made contact on 125.05 saying he was going airborne and would be enroute to Winchester, then switched over to 125.8.
I've also been able to track Omaha-1 enroute back to DCA on 125.8 and 125.05 Given Class B west of and around Dulles at 3500ft.
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freqhopping
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1035- Inbound "PACER-82" contacts SAM command. Says he is a training flight. Also calls himself "Shark-82".
TinEar
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Scanner on just for a few minutes while here checking email.
Heard the end of a two ship F-16s flight from the NJ-ANG at Atlantic City. They were using 138.425 for tac, with ZDC-Casino on 285.4 and Atlantic City Approach on 327.125 just before landing on runway 31 at ACY. Their callsigns were DEVIL 11 and 12. All of this was between 1245 and 1247.
Also currently have a pair of fighters chatting on 138.0...sounds like they are flying through the area. Picked them up at 1254 and they are still there as of 1309. No callsigns heard.
Last heard them at 1322....and just as I type that I hear more activity on that freq at 1338 but am not sure it's the same pair I had earlier. The voices sound different. And it sounds like this same pair may be with ZDC-Cape Charles on 256.8.
Nice catch freqhopping on the Customs intercept. I guess they didn't scramble the F-16s out of Andrews.
Fact: Maryland has 229 airports/heliports/seaports.
1347: Ref the above activity mentioned on 138.0....the aircraft now sound like they may be part of a CAP somewhere and that this is their chat freq. One pilot just mentioned they have 45 minutes left in their mission. However, I'm not finding a corresponding CAP primary freq by scanning all the NORAD (HUNTRESS) freqs. One use of this freq is primary tac for the F-16s from the ND-ANG when they deploy from Fargo ND to Langley AFB. If so, they should be using callsign SPIDER but I'm not even hearing the use of a suffix, let alone a callsign.
1356: The 138.0 pair appear to be flying over the Norfolk general area. The talk is about a population of 2.5-million, the largest city in the U.S. without a professional sports team and the fact that there are three airports within the general area - Norfolk, Newport News and Richmond. I'm only hearing one end of the conversation now as apparently one of them is in the north end of their mission area and the other is in the south.
1356: That chat activity I'm hearing on ZDC-Cape Charles 256.8 is not part of the 138.0 fighter flight. However, it's strange that there are two pilots using that freq like a chat channel. They are somewhere around the area and just mentioned someone taking off from Martin (State) and to watch for them. They almost sound like either National Guard flights or possibly private pilots.
1400: The guys on 256.8 mention frequency change to Weide. I then hear them come up on Weide AAF Tower freq 126.2 where he mentions they are a flight of three just off from Martin State. I earlier heard a "Guard 21927" working with MTN Tower on 121.3 that might be a part of this trio. After the check in at Weide, they go right back to chatting on the 256.8 freq.
1403: Yes, this is Guard 927 working with Weide that says he's a flight of three while back on 126.2.
1405: Guard 927 and his pals are going to land at Weide using 126.2. They now sound like helos once they got higher and louder with engine noise coming through in the background. Why they are using a Washington Center freq for chat is beyond me. You'd think the Center, if they could hear them, would put a stop to that in a hurry.
1425: The flight leader on 138.0 tells his wingman to check in with tower. (According to earlier traffic, they should be ending their mission at about 1430. And the next transmission should identify them.)
1425: FINALLY!....SPIDER 46 calls Langley Tower on 253.5 although he doesn't seem to get a reply. That makes the flight leader SPIDER 45 and those callsigns should make them part of a CAP mission. But I still don't find a HUNTRESS freq. (SPIDER = F-16, ND-ANG Fargo and currently deployed to Langley AFB VA)
1428: Have NJ-ANG F-16 up on 138.875...sounds like he/they are going to the Pax River area.
1429: AERO 21 (F-16, NJ-ANG Atlantic City) flight checks in with BayWatch Advisory at Patuxent River on 354.8 and says he wants flight level 3500 to 20,000. He says he's a single ship flight and hoping for AERO 22 to rejoin him but he had to cancel at this time.
1430: AERO 21 goes to V-12 which is confirmed as 138.1.
1441: And here comes AERO 22...he's currently with ZDC Casino on 285.4 at 11,000 feet.
1442: BICEP 11 (F-16 NJ-ANG) also with ZDC-Casino on 285.4. He's leaving 11,000 for 14,000, then to 15,000
1449: BICEP and AERO flight leaving ZDC for BayWatch. «285.4»
1450: AERO 22 and BICEP 11 check in with BayWatch and declare they're VFR and will be MARSA with each other. «354.8»
1451: The BICEP flight is working tac «138.425» and the AEROs working tac «138.875»
1511: AERO and BICEP flights are still working those same two tac freqs. They must be at low altitudes and not at the usual Pax River Range because their transmissions are fairly weak from here.
1512: Warren Grove Range is active on «283.1» with an unknown unit.
Log continued below....
Speaking of a CAP, I don't think we'll have one Monday but the President and Mrs. Bush are scheduled to visit an elementary school here in Glen Burnie (North Glen Elementary) according to an article in this morning's Baltimore Sun. It didn't mention a time.
Heard the end of a two ship F-16s flight from the NJ-ANG at Atlantic City. They were using 138.425 for tac, with ZDC-Casino on 285.4 and Atlantic City Approach on 327.125 just before landing on runway 31 at ACY. Their callsigns were DEVIL 11 and 12. All of this was between 1245 and 1247.
Also currently have a pair of fighters chatting on 138.0...sounds like they are flying through the area. Picked them up at 1254 and they are still there as of 1309. No callsigns heard.
Last heard them at 1322....and just as I type that I hear more activity on that freq at 1338 but am not sure it's the same pair I had earlier. The voices sound different. And it sounds like this same pair may be with ZDC-Cape Charles on 256.8.
Nice catch freqhopping on the Customs intercept. I guess they didn't scramble the F-16s out of Andrews.
Fact: Maryland has 229 airports/heliports/seaports.
1347: Ref the above activity mentioned on 138.0....the aircraft now sound like they may be part of a CAP somewhere and that this is their chat freq. One pilot just mentioned they have 45 minutes left in their mission. However, I'm not finding a corresponding CAP primary freq by scanning all the NORAD (HUNTRESS) freqs. One use of this freq is primary tac for the F-16s from the ND-ANG when they deploy from Fargo ND to Langley AFB. If so, they should be using callsign SPIDER but I'm not even hearing the use of a suffix, let alone a callsign.
1356: The 138.0 pair appear to be flying over the Norfolk general area. The talk is about a population of 2.5-million, the largest city in the U.S. without a professional sports team and the fact that there are three airports within the general area - Norfolk, Newport News and Richmond. I'm only hearing one end of the conversation now as apparently one of them is in the north end of their mission area and the other is in the south.
1356: That chat activity I'm hearing on ZDC-Cape Charles 256.8 is not part of the 138.0 fighter flight. However, it's strange that there are two pilots using that freq like a chat channel. They are somewhere around the area and just mentioned someone taking off from Martin (State) and to watch for them. They almost sound like either National Guard flights or possibly private pilots.
1400: The guys on 256.8 mention frequency change to Weide. I then hear them come up on Weide AAF Tower freq 126.2 where he mentions they are a flight of three just off from Martin State. I earlier heard a "Guard 21927" working with MTN Tower on 121.3 that might be a part of this trio. After the check in at Weide, they go right back to chatting on the 256.8 freq.
1403: Yes, this is Guard 927 working with Weide that says he's a flight of three while back on 126.2.
1405: Guard 927 and his pals are going to land at Weide using 126.2. They now sound like helos once they got higher and louder with engine noise coming through in the background. Why they are using a Washington Center freq for chat is beyond me. You'd think the Center, if they could hear them, would put a stop to that in a hurry.
1425: The flight leader on 138.0 tells his wingman to check in with tower. (According to earlier traffic, they should be ending their mission at about 1430. And the next transmission should identify them.)
1425: FINALLY!....SPIDER 46 calls Langley Tower on 253.5 although he doesn't seem to get a reply. That makes the flight leader SPIDER 45 and those callsigns should make them part of a CAP mission. But I still don't find a HUNTRESS freq. (SPIDER = F-16, ND-ANG Fargo and currently deployed to Langley AFB VA)
1428: Have NJ-ANG F-16 up on 138.875...sounds like he/they are going to the Pax River area.
1429: AERO 21 (F-16, NJ-ANG Atlantic City) flight checks in with BayWatch Advisory at Patuxent River on 354.8 and says he wants flight level 3500 to 20,000. He says he's a single ship flight and hoping for AERO 22 to rejoin him but he had to cancel at this time.
1430: AERO 21 goes to V-12 which is confirmed as 138.1.
1441: And here comes AERO 22...he's currently with ZDC Casino on 285.4 at 11,000 feet.
1442: BICEP 11 (F-16 NJ-ANG) also with ZDC-Casino on 285.4. He's leaving 11,000 for 14,000, then to 15,000
1449: BICEP and AERO flight leaving ZDC for BayWatch. «285.4»
1450: AERO 22 and BICEP 11 check in with BayWatch and declare they're VFR and will be MARSA with each other. «354.8»
1451: The BICEP flight is working tac «138.425» and the AEROs working tac «138.875»
1511: AERO and BICEP flights are still working those same two tac freqs. They must be at low altitudes and not at the usual Pax River Range because their transmissions are fairly weak from here.
1512: Warren Grove Range is active on «283.1» with an unknown unit.
Log continued below....
Speaking of a CAP, I don't think we'll have one Monday but the President and Mrs. Bush are scheduled to visit an elementary school here in Glen Burnie (North Glen Elementary) according to an article in this morning's Baltimore Sun. It didn't mention a time.
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freqhopping
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Around 1215 just as I was heading out the door I was hearing Reach-382 on 228.9 trying to contact Huntress. And then one of the boom freqs was active too. There was some talk about refueling with Tanker-8. It also sounded like a flight of ??????-45 and ?????-46. I setup ScanRec but only got 43 seconds of chat and it was pretty scratchy.
JLHDU
Member
Tanker08 is out of LNK and I think he is still hangin' out somewhere SE of ORF then he'll be going onto HVQ then DEC and his destination is LNK.
TinEar
Member
Lincoln, Nebraska is a long flight for that KC-135 tanker but, hey, it's all in a day's work.
And to translate...
ORF=Norfolk Intl. Airport
HVQ=Charleston WV VORTAC
DEC=Decatur IL VORTAC
LNK=Lincoln Airport, Lincoln Nebraska (Home of the 155th Air Refueling Wing of the NE-ANG that flies KC-135R tankers. Lincoln's runway 18/36 is 12,901 feet long.)
1535: That flight that was at Warren Grove Range switches to ZNY-Ship Bottom NJ on «307.8» where they report they will RTB and are at 13,000 feet. The callsign is MARLIN which belongs to A-10s of the CT-ANG at Bradley.
1535: U/I transport into Willow Grove NAS on Base Ops freq «306.8» Mentions he's dropping off pax.
1542: AERO/BICEP flights still at Pax for ground attack exercises. «138.875/138.425» AEROs are in the north part of the area and BICEPs are working the southern part, consequently, AERO is loud, BICEP is not.
1550: The NJ F-16s tell BayWatch they'll be leaving to RTB in about 5 minutes. «354.8»
1555: BICEP flight with ZDC-Cape Charles on «256.8» north of Salisbury, direct Sea Isle and then direct Atlantic City at 9500 feet. The AERO flight made this trip ahead of BICEP but no log since I was firing up the TV for football and didn't mark times.
1558: BICEP flight to ZDC-Casino on «285.4» where they continue to head toward ACY. Wingman leaves freq to retrieve the ATIS report and comes back to tac «138.425» with the info.
1603: BICEP flight in a descent down to 2500 feet. See ya. «285.4»
1605: CODY 01 (Prob C-5 or C-130) to Dover Command Post on «134.1» Says he'll be RON at Dover and arriving at 2125Z and needs parking.
1607: CODY 01 tells Dover he's very weak...1 by. He gives him a DNS to call and then says he has no pax or cargo. «134.1»
1609: CODY 01 gets parking spot C-3 and says he needs no fuel and no fleet (service). He'll get those tomorrow. «134.1»
1618: U/I helos chatting on National Guard Common freq «242.4»
And I just turned on the scanners while checking email. Hah! Who knew there would be so much MilAir activity this afternoon? However, it's almost time for the 'Skins game at 4:30 so attention will shift shortly.
And to translate...
ORF=Norfolk Intl. Airport
HVQ=Charleston WV VORTAC
DEC=Decatur IL VORTAC
LNK=Lincoln Airport, Lincoln Nebraska (Home of the 155th Air Refueling Wing of the NE-ANG that flies KC-135R tankers. Lincoln's runway 18/36 is 12,901 feet long.)
1535: That flight that was at Warren Grove Range switches to ZNY-Ship Bottom NJ on «307.8» where they report they will RTB and are at 13,000 feet. The callsign is MARLIN which belongs to A-10s of the CT-ANG at Bradley.
1535: U/I transport into Willow Grove NAS on Base Ops freq «306.8» Mentions he's dropping off pax.
1542: AERO/BICEP flights still at Pax for ground attack exercises. «138.875/138.425» AEROs are in the north part of the area and BICEPs are working the southern part, consequently, AERO is loud, BICEP is not.
1550: The NJ F-16s tell BayWatch they'll be leaving to RTB in about 5 minutes. «354.8»
1555: BICEP flight with ZDC-Cape Charles on «256.8» north of Salisbury, direct Sea Isle and then direct Atlantic City at 9500 feet. The AERO flight made this trip ahead of BICEP but no log since I was firing up the TV for football and didn't mark times.
1558: BICEP flight to ZDC-Casino on «285.4» where they continue to head toward ACY. Wingman leaves freq to retrieve the ATIS report and comes back to tac «138.425» with the info.
1603: BICEP flight in a descent down to 2500 feet. See ya. «285.4»
1605: CODY 01 (Prob C-5 or C-130) to Dover Command Post on «134.1» Says he'll be RON at Dover and arriving at 2125Z and needs parking.
1607: CODY 01 tells Dover he's very weak...1 by. He gives him a DNS to call and then says he has no pax or cargo. «134.1»
1609: CODY 01 gets parking spot C-3 and says he needs no fuel and no fleet (service). He'll get those tomorrow. «134.1»
1618: U/I helos chatting on National Guard Common freq «242.4»
And I just turned on the scanners while checking email. Hah! Who knew there would be so much MilAir activity this afternoon? However, it's almost time for the 'Skins game at 4:30 so attention will shift shortly.
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I see the Jersey DEVILS F-16's are up on a nice Sunday.
Heard DEVIL 51 on Baywatch 354.800 and
DEVIL 41flt of 2 climbing up headed North 363.000 ZDC Woodstown>fl 25k>350.300 Matewan NYC>290.200 Flint Hill NYC>290.350 Boston Ctr and I lost them.
Heard DEVIL 51 on Baywatch 354.800 and
DEVIL 41flt of 2 climbing up headed North 363.000 ZDC Woodstown>fl 25k>350.300 Matewan NYC>290.200 Flint Hill NYC>290.350 Boston Ctr and I lost them.
n3bxv
Member
TinEar said:
Did anyone happen to hear the Nighthawks Helos fly into Glen Burnie Elementary today in preparation for tommorrow's visit? Here's some pics from TWD -- http://www.thewatchdesk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=236962#post236962
TinEar
Member
Sure didn't hear them Chuck. I was searching the 406-420 band trying to find some related advance team comms but heard nothing. For those that might want to check the area tomorrow, North Glen Elementary School is located at 615 West Furnace Branch Road here in Glen Burnie. Scheduled arrival of Marine 1 at the school is at 10:25 a.m. The President is also on the road Wednesday to Louisville Kentucky so we can listen for Air Force 1, however, no time was mentioned in the White House schedule for that visit.
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ka3jjz
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Yeah I heard the helos this morning around 10ish; man they were loud. They made 2 or 3 wide sweeps in the area, and then left. I didn't have the scanners on at the time, or I might have heard the calls as they checked in with BWI.
It was loud enough that if you were still snoozing, boy that sound woke you up big time! 73s Mike
It was loud enough that if you were still snoozing, boy that sound woke you up big time! 73s Mike
JLHDU
Member
ka3jjz said:
Speaking of Helo's, I was on my way home today at about 3pm on Rt 70E at Exit 56 near FDK airport and this MORON Helo Pilot was about 200-300 feet off the ground (Literally!) flying Westbound (mind you I was Eastbound!) over the Eastbound lanes! Initially I thought it was maybe a County Copter working speed enforcement. I looked, and looked again and it was a 2 seater baby Bell. Just seemed out of place that low and overflying vehicle traffic.
Maintain VFR! It's a beautiful thing.
-J
n3bxv
Member
JLHDU said:
Jason,
Maybe he was flying the "other" IFR rules........ I Follow Roads!
TinEar
Member
Mid 0900 hour....
The DC-ANG F16s are up this morning in ground attack exercises. At least two of them, RAVAGE 1 & 2 are using tac freq 143.15. Then, over on Pax River freq 262.95, are the ops by the two RAVAGE aircraft, a GUNNY 1 and a BULLY 1.
1006: PANAMA 81 (1st FW Langley), flight of possibly six aircraft, into Giant Killer's area using 238.1. One of the flight (86) had an emergency that got corrected and so the emergency was cancelled. I didn't catch the nature of the problem.
It's 1025, the time the President was supposed to arrive here in Glen Burnie - at least according to press reports. I've heard absolutely nothing on the airways up to this point that would indicate Marine 1 came this way.
1028: BULLY 1 heading for home and with Reagan TRACON on 270.275 looking for the runway....then with Tower on 349.0 a couple of minutes later...going into runway 19L.
1029: Langley tac freq 358.85 active...might be the PANAMA flight.
1031: GUNNY 1 also heading for home...currently with SOF on 139.9 giving mission results....at 1038 he's with Tower on 349.0 to land on runway 19L.
1032: RAVAGE 1 and 2 still performing ground attack exercises 262.95/143.15
1042: Langley tac 228.175 active.
1042: RAVAGE 1/2 heading for home «143.15»
1045: RAVAGE to SOF on 139.9 where they report mission results - they took out a bridge, two mortar positions, oil tank, etc....annnounce ordnance expended and maintenance status of the aircraft.
1050: Langley tac 257.075 active.
1053: RAVAGE 1/2 on 8 mile final for runway 19L as reported to Andrews Tower on 349.0
1053: TROOPER 2 (MD State Police Helo) off from Martin State and heading for the Waterloo State Police barrack. He initially called on 119.7 but was told he's supposed to be on 119.0. He's also told that because he's "law enforcement" he can fly directly to his destination. He no sooner arrives at Waterloo when he switches to Andrews Approach on 119.3 and says he's heading for Andrews.
1055: Washington Center Swann Sector 134.5/360.7 tells an aircraft they're having equipment problems there on the ground.
1056: Giant Killer's operations freq 292.3 active.
1102: Still no contact with Marine 1 but just heard a Marine 374 helo with Andrews Tower on 118.4 that might be part of the President's party. No mention of the Nighthawk callsign though.
The DC-ANG F16s are up this morning in ground attack exercises. At least two of them, RAVAGE 1 & 2 are using tac freq 143.15. Then, over on Pax River freq 262.95, are the ops by the two RAVAGE aircraft, a GUNNY 1 and a BULLY 1.
1006: PANAMA 81 (1st FW Langley), flight of possibly six aircraft, into Giant Killer's area using 238.1. One of the flight (86) had an emergency that got corrected and so the emergency was cancelled. I didn't catch the nature of the problem.
It's 1025, the time the President was supposed to arrive here in Glen Burnie - at least according to press reports. I've heard absolutely nothing on the airways up to this point that would indicate Marine 1 came this way.
1028: BULLY 1 heading for home and with Reagan TRACON on 270.275 looking for the runway....then with Tower on 349.0 a couple of minutes later...going into runway 19L.
1029: Langley tac freq 358.85 active...might be the PANAMA flight.
1031: GUNNY 1 also heading for home...currently with SOF on 139.9 giving mission results....at 1038 he's with Tower on 349.0 to land on runway 19L.
1032: RAVAGE 1 and 2 still performing ground attack exercises 262.95/143.15
1042: Langley tac 228.175 active.
1042: RAVAGE 1/2 heading for home «143.15»
1045: RAVAGE to SOF on 139.9 where they report mission results - they took out a bridge, two mortar positions, oil tank, etc....annnounce ordnance expended and maintenance status of the aircraft.
1050: Langley tac 257.075 active.
1053: RAVAGE 1/2 on 8 mile final for runway 19L as reported to Andrews Tower on 349.0
1053: TROOPER 2 (MD State Police Helo) off from Martin State and heading for the Waterloo State Police barrack. He initially called on 119.7 but was told he's supposed to be on 119.0. He's also told that because he's "law enforcement" he can fly directly to his destination. He no sooner arrives at Waterloo when he switches to Andrews Approach on 119.3 and says he's heading for Andrews.
1055: Washington Center Swann Sector 134.5/360.7 tells an aircraft they're having equipment problems there on the ground.
1056: Giant Killer's operations freq 292.3 active.
1102: Still no contact with Marine 1 but just heard a Marine 374 helo with Andrews Tower on 118.4 that might be part of the President's party. No mention of the Nighthawk callsign though.
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