What "business" are you referring to?skywatch said:Just my opinion after 32 years in the business. Not intended to cause a flamer.
I know - if we could get more spotters to recognize basic storm structure, like most chasers do, there's be less sheriffnadoes being reported...skywatch said:Big difference between a storm "chaser" and a storm "spotter".
I think it's great. In other parts of the country, they have people that take tourist on whitewater rafting, or rock climbing, etc. Glad to see people making money off a passion!God, you should see the tour buses out here taking tourists on a 'chase'.
What? Chasers did a GREAT job on the May 3 '99 OKC tornado. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that event, but I have no doubt there would have been more deaths has chasers nto been on the storm. I'm curious how they've interfered with your duties?If I had my way chasers should be arrested for interference with an officer's duties.
Maybe if we could see the whole video, you may have some justification for your otherwise rash assumption. I know that when I told people to move, I usually had a good reason. They may not have wanted to move but they had two choices, and this guy made the wrong choice.mancow said:ahhh.. .he should have driven by....and let the guy film or watch or whatever.
What a stupid arrest.
Uhhh, show me which law that says a cop can come up to you IN A PUBLIC REST STOP AREA and tell you to leave? There was no danger. Nothing was approaching them. If there was a tornado, wouldn't it be better to tell people to get inside to shelter instead of sending them back onto the road? And if people don't want to take shelter - there's no law that says you can force them.SAR2401 said:If he tells you to move, get back in your vehicle and move. You have no right to engage in a roadside argument whether his actions are right - that's for another time. If you choose to not obey a lawful order, even if you don't like it or agree with it, you can be arrested.
I would agree, but in theory only. Complaints against cops are futile -- regardless of their validity -- unless you're black. They have to literally kill somebody before civil rights violations are even considered against them. Their only "punishment" for abusing their authority or violating your rights is that their case gets dismissed by the DA. Big deal. They still go back and do it again. Because they can, and because they enjoy it.SAR2401 said:If the storm chaser felt he was being treated unfairly, the proper route was to follow the deputy's order and then file a complaint.
I can see no evidence that the deputy's order was clearly lawful either. It was a REST STOP, for crying out loud. Rest stop = place to park. It wasn't a matter of the guy blocking the road, which would have been a law to be enforced. It was a simple matter of the cop thinking he can push people around for his own entertainment. They do the same thing to the news media all the time. And cops wonder why people don't respect them. :roll:I can see no evidence the deputy's order was clearly unlawful and therefore he was obliged to follow the order or be arrested.
You're missing the root of the problem. The problem is not that people second guess peace officers' legal interpretations. The big problem is that peace officers' legal interpretations are so often incorrect that they need to be interpreted in the first place. If we had better educated, better trained, and frankly smarter cops with less attitude, there would be a lot less need for streetside debates.We can't have an orderly society if everyone thinks they have the right to argue a peace officer's interpretation of the law on the side of the road.
Agreed. As usual, throw a video camera into the mix, and people are empowered to act a fool. Nobody wants to be seen backing down on camera, including the cop. The cop was wrong, and no amount of complaining to his superiors is likely to change him. But, as justified as they may be legally, streetside debates are never productive or wise.Just do what you're told, even if you think the cop is being a jerk, and take it up with his superiors later...unless you want to be arrested and get some publicity. I'm not convinced that wasn't part of the motivation behind this video.