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I just got a Kenwood TK-5410 K2 model and I have learned the software. I programmed two channels, one P25 and one analog, both will not work properly. In a normal state, the P25 channel will only receive if monitor is on, even though the NAC tones are correct. The analog channel will not work at all and will actually revert to channel 1 zone 1 when the PTT button is pressed. However, in emergency mode, the radio performs fine. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this?
 

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I just got a Kenwood TK-5410 K2 model and I have learned the software. I programmed two channels, one P25 and one analog, both will not work properly. In a normal state, the P25 channel will only receive if monitor is on, even though the NAC tones are correct.

What is your source of programming info?

That behavior usually indicates the NAC is incorrect. Try programming the Receive NAC for F7E and see if it works correctly.

The analog channel will not work at all and will actually revert to channel 1 zone 1 when the PTT button is pressed.

Is the Data box checked on the Analog personality? If so, uncheck it.
 

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Also on the P25 Channel do you have a TG programmed and do you have a Radio ID programmed.
I have done no P25 Programming but Monitored several P25 Conventional Systems.
 

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What is your source of programming info?

That behavior usually indicates the NAC is incorrect. Try programming the Receive NAC for F7E and see if it works correctly.



Is the Data box checked on the Analog personality? If so, uncheck it.
The software won't let me uncheck it, saying "This personality is programmed to the data System-Personality Select the 'data' box.
I also would like to try trunking operation. I've heard how you can't, or it is extremely difficult to do NAS, so if the radio is inhibited, can you uninhibit using dealer software?
 

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You need to take that personality out of the data system.



You can't.



Just don't.
I understand why people don’t like to discuss this but I have a question. When I go to the talk group tab in the trunking system, everything is grayed out, including the hunt channel options. I have found many serial codes on the internet. Is this what determines if I have access or not, or the advanced network key? I have checked all trunking and TDMA capability boxes in the product information section. Even though I have played around with the software a lot, I am still pretty new to Kenwood programming.
 

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It means you do not have the SYSTEM KEY from the ADMINISTRATOR and you do not have the RIGHTS to ENTER TRUNKING DATA.
You most likely are way over your head if you are asking these questions. If you have a LAGITITMATE REASON to be on this said Trunking System then have a System Administrator Program your Radio if not buy a scanner or SDR's and enjoy Receiving.
 

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It means you do not have the SYSTEM KEY from the ADMINISTRATOR and you do not have the RIGHTS to ENTER TRUNKING DATA.
You most likely are way over your head if you are asking these questions. If you have a LAGITITMATE REASON to be on this said Trunking System then have a System Administrator Program your Radio if not buy a scanner or SDR's and enjoy Receiving.
Well that stinks. Would it work to put all the site frequencies into a scan list? Just don’t want to spend any more money. And just to be clear, I’m not planning on transmitting at all. No need.
 

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There are several threads here with this discussed.
Is it possible? YES
Is there risk involved? YES
Is there a chance that your radio will receive a KILL CODE and get Bricked? YES
General advice PROCEED WITH CAUTION.
 

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There are several threads here with this discussed.
Is it possible? YES
Is there risk involved? YES
Is there a chance that your radio will receive a KILL CODE and get Bricked? YES
General advice PROCEED WITH CAUTION.
Okay. I’ve done this with my XTS5000 and it worked somewhat. Hasn’t gotten bricked using the method said before. Hoping it works better. I am having a hard time looking for answers to my questions on the internet so thanks for the responses.
 

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Well that stinks. Would it work to put all the site frequencies into a scan list? Just don’t want to spend any more money. And just to be clear, I’m not planning on transmitting at all. No need.

If you program each frequency for the trunked system in as a conventional channel, and click the "Receive Only" box, then add each channel to a scan list.

You'll need to manually take the control channel out of the scan list. They may change control channels periodically.

This will work, but you'll have a challenge following conversations, especially if its a busy system.
 

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If you program each frequency for the trunked system in as a conventional channel, and click the "Receive Only" box, then add each channel to a scan list.

You'll need to manually take the control channel out of the scan list. They may change control channels periodically.

This will work, but you'll have a challenge following conversations, especially if its a busy system.
Okay I did this and just found out a few days ago that the radio can display which talk group someone is transmitting in. I had already programmed my towns police dispatch talk group details in the section Talkgroup IDs in the conventional system thinking it would be doing something, but didn’t see any difference. One morning I saw it pop up on the screen and it surprised me so I decided to put more talkgroup IDs into the section. Obviously this is very helpful as before I didn’t know who was talking. However, I was wondering if since the radio can identify which talkgroup is active, then can it filter out all but the one I want to hear using this scanning method?
 

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However, I was wondering if since the radio can identify which talkgroup is active, then can it filter out all but the one I want to hear using this scanning method?

I don't know. I don't have a need to non-affiliate scan trunked systems. If I get a chance, I'll take a look at the documentation to see if that's possible.
 

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Should be able to program up a P25 channel with a talk group set, then just scan those.
 

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Should be able to program up a P25 channel with a talk group set, then just scan those.
Yes that’s what I tried doing. Set up one talk group and strapped to each site frequency channel. Still picked up all other talk groups but showed on display if programmed talk group was active. You’d think it would only listen for that talk group though.
 
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