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TK-630H programming troubles

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Her are the pics of my cable.
 

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In the second, component side, photo you see a diode symbol in the lower right corner. The diode has the anode, plus side to the left. That would be where the external power would go. It may be the same as the one of the +V pads.
 

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There seems to be a voltage regulator right near and connecting to the diode. A better close up may help.

IIRC there is 8 volts on the mic jack used for running the mic element. Not 12 volts. Still should power the RS232 chip via the regulator.
 

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I have a cable almost identical to the one pictured. will not program tk-730. if you feed voltage into the regulator that is powered by of the computer port won't that damage the port?
 

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I have a cable almost identical to the one pictured. will not program tk-730. if you feed voltage into the regulator that is powered by of the computer port won't that damage the port?

I think that is the problem, trying to power the programming cable's RS232 to TTL chip from the serial port/computer.
My older Kenwood cable has a diode so the 8 volts does not back up into the serial port. If that photo was better one could see IF the power is really coming from one or two RS232 lines from the computer serial port. I can see the diode, just not where it goes.

Most of the serial to TTL chips need more 5 volt current than most serial ports on computers provide. And for me, a bad idea trying to get power from serial lines from the computer to power RS232 Serial to TTL chip in the programming cable. Newer computer Serial ports do not have enough voltage/current to program some radios. Serial port power IS limited by the serial port chip in newer computers.
 

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Just my 2 kopeyka, if you're going to build you own, add a small "power on" LED (and associated resistor) to the output of the 5v regulator so that you'll know if there is a power problem. You could also power it from a 9v batt or an old 5v cell-phone charger if you want.

Good Luck!
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I think that is the problem, trying to power the programming cable's RS232 to TTL chip from the serial port/computer.
My older Kenwood cable has a diode so the 8 volts does not back up into the serial port. If that photo was better one could see IF the power is really coming from one or two RS232 lines from the computer serial port. I can see the diode, just not where it goes.

Most of the serial to TTL chips need more 5 volt current than most serial ports on computers provide. And for me, a bad idea trying to get power from serial lines from the computer to power RS232 Serial to TTL chip in the programming cable. Newer computer Serial ports do not have enough voltage/current to program some radios. Serial port power IS limited by the serial port chip in newer computers.


I will take a better closeup picture of the chip tonight, I still haven’t got the problem fixed yet but I’ve been busy lately and haven’t worked on it much lately.
 

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Here are the close up photos
 

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No wonder, there is a few wrong connections/traces on the board, and missing regulator and diode.

A three legged diode on the left and the regulator on the right in this photo. Post 24 IS the correct schematic diagram.
 

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Any diode should work, even a two leged one. But you will HAVE to correct some of the circuit board traces to make it like the diagram.
 

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Ok I tried to make my own cable still had problems with programming does anyone happen to have a cable they know to work on the tk-*30 series radios I could borrow or purchase. If you would be willing to loan me the cable I would compensate you as well as prepay for shipping.
 

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It's purdy much just a standard interface cable, I made an adapter from a 6 pin phone jack and an 10 pin edge connector from Mouser to use my kenwood cable to program an EF Johnson radio. It's a great cable for tinkerers.
 

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Ok I ordered one I hope it works it’ll be the 4 cable I’ve been through lol. I like that it is wired for power through the radio instead of the computer so hopefully it’ll work.
 
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