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Too Soon For VP8000 Wants/Bug list?
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No MDC1200 individual call. Actually no features beyond sending/receiving RID. MDC1200 is mostly obsolete but the agencies that persist in using it utilize all the features they can. There doesn’t seem to be a log of RIDs like NX radios have — well for DMR & P25 anyway, maybe not MDC…
Digital Squelch not working on DMR. It is supposed to ignore CC and TG. Not sure about CC but it does respect TG.
I will try P25 when I have time. Regarding TG in p25 conventional, the only way I can get radio to ignore TG and respect NAC is to put in TG FFFF whereas on NX5xxx you can use Selective squelch (respects NAC & TG) or NAC squelch (respects NAC but not TG). I would like to be able to respect NAC and ignore incoming TG without giving up outgoing TG other than ffff broadcast.
I will try P25 when I have time. Regarding TG in p25 conventional, the only way I can get radio to ignore TG and respect NAC is to put in TG FFFF whereas on NX5xxx you can use Selective squelch (respects NAC & TG) or NAC squelch (respects NAC but not TG). I would like to be able to respect NAC and ignore incoming TG without giving up outgoing TG other than ffff broadcast.
My radio froze today. I turned it on to monitor an exercise on our new DMR repeater used by TF6 (460.xxx). Actually we have 2 repeaters in different sites one digital and the other FMN on the same frequency. The FMN will go away once our testing is done. Anyway, I have a monitor channel set up in my VP8000 (and my KW, Moto) which is a mixed mode auto time slot with a receive group of the 7 TG's we use DMR.
I hadn't heard any traffic so I looked at the radio and saw the lightning bolt receive icon and the speaker icon with line through it (supposedly indicating a signal without proper selective call attributes). From memory, I don't think the receive light on top of radio was actually lit. When I changed channels the display showed: "Changing...". After a minute of watching that I changed channels again and got the same result. I power cycled radio and it came up "Changing...". I had to remove battery to reset the radio. Latest firmware.
I believe I've seen the receiving signal without proper PL or whatever ICON before but didn't realize anything was amiss nor did I see frozen "Changing..." in display. This is a serious issue leading to missed traffic.
I hadn't heard any traffic so I looked at the radio and saw the lightning bolt receive icon and the speaker icon with line through it (supposedly indicating a signal without proper selective call attributes). From memory, I don't think the receive light on top of radio was actually lit. When I changed channels the display showed: "Changing...". After a minute of watching that I changed channels again and got the same result. I power cycled radio and it came up "Changing...". I had to remove battery to reset the radio. Latest firmware.
I believe I've seen the receiving signal without proper PL or whatever ICON before but didn't realize anything was amiss nor did I see frozen "Changing..." in display. This is a serious issue leading to missed traffic.
Good description! Should help the firmware engineers narrow down where to look. Did you happen to notice if it said "Powering down..." when you turned the power switch off? Did it do the regular startup images/sounds when you switched it back on (before the battery removal)? The fact that the battery removal was necessary seems to point to one of the things that gets stored in status memory and restored at power-up.
I’ve yet to figure out how to induce the failure. Thinking back I don’t think the radio ever actually shut off when I switched it off. Off is a soft off and it was ignored. This particular channel is only auto slot I’m using. I have hung the radio by switching channels and hitting PTT before new channel fully lands.
It does on the full keypad radios, to enable DTMF just check the Keypad DTMF box on a per channel basis or if you have a bunch of channels you need DTMF use the Table mode so you can just do a fill down and they all get done.
Regards,
Jim
I had a DTMF box checked somewhere on my radio, which disabled the numerical keys that I had programmed for functions. Kenwood Tech told me which box to uncheck and my custom functions, returned to the numerical keys. If I was holding down the key, I could send DTMF tones with the keypad. I have no idea what uncheck the DTMF box actually did maybe it had something to do with pre-programmed numbers or something. The point being there can be a conflict.
PL list limitation
I am not the system designer, just the SU programmer so don’t come at me. Armada does not allowed PL tones outside the EIA list and 2 local tait repeaters use unconventional PLs on transit and public works channels. This isn’t a problem on any other radio as far back as the radius series.
I am not the system designer, just the SU programmer so don’t come at me. Armada does not allowed PL tones outside the EIA list and 2 local tait repeaters use unconventional PLs on transit and public works channels. This isn’t a problem on any other radio as far back as the radius series.
Sort of.
i can dial dtmf from keypad while pressing PTT. There is no auto dial dtmf that I can find. I have need to store and auto dial dtmf up 16 digits or more but can find no way to do it.
DMR has no messaging
P25 messaging and phone etc only if running a server app
This radio is not message, GPS, DTMF, autodial or phone friendly at all.
Only shows up in menu on P25 and it looks for an IP. If I’m using a conventional P25 repeater I guess I could have a pc running Phone patch, text messaging, location services attached to a data radio. Even then it’s incestuous. All of this should be a P25 standard across all brands.
Missing DTMF autodial definitely appears to be a gap, even for the apparent target market – public safety. In Los Angeles County at least, ambulances still require DTMF hailing ability on MED-10. Having an autodial list with the hospital names is nicer than having to punch it in manually, and has been available on Kenwood for decades. Could do the hack of putting it in the ANI and then creating a system for each hospital, but I don't know if it's acceptable to send the DTMF repeatedly (and a pain anyway).
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