Well I guess the radios I have personally done this with are a figment of my imagination.
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vp8000 seller cant transfer ownership
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I think it said there were ten perpetual licenses that were commonly used in public safety. The purpose is that specialized features don't have to be retired along with radios – you get to keep them, encouraging you to buy newer EFJ radios without having to pay for them. The P25 licenses are expensive, and the Firesafe licenses are pretty specialized, for example. Much broader market for your used radios at a lower price point if people don't need those capabilities. Obviously good for dealers in getting customers to upgrade to new EFJ equipment intead of something else.
First, no one wants "firesafe" because it's far too complicated to operate. Heck, the vast majority of agencies want no more from their radios then an on/off switch, a volume control, and a PTT switch. No channel knob, because they only want one channel-that's it. heh.
But more to the point, we can't take licenses we've put in back out of radios, for Vikings. They're there forever. For the TK and NX radios, we have 72 hours to take them out. Once it's past that limit, they are permanent.
No one wants to re purchase all of their software because they replace their computer. My software load on my desktop is much more $$ than the machine. Now that radios are more computer than radio it’s the same. Just like software vendors, the radio manufacturers want us to subscribe for a monthly fee rather than purchase outright (even then they obsolete before wearing out). Both want you married to their servers so they can mine your data. “The Matrix” was not so far fetched. I wonder if Schaumburg has a kill switch on every TRS they sell?
Back to ownership question. Who owns a radio and what are the restrictions? Can I attach your radio to my vault? Can I load a license into your radio?
Back to ownership question. Who owns a radio and what are the restrictions? Can I attach your radio to my vault? Can I load a license into your radio?
So are you saying EFJ is lying (or mis-leading), or that you have tried and not been able to do it?
I'm more worried about Beijing or Pyong-yang or Moscow, via all that un-inspected firmware and software that's crept into everything.
DeoVindice
P25 Underground
False. P25 Conventional, Trunking, Phase 2, Mobile Data, MDC, Firesafe, and possibly others are perpetual and can be transferred between radios.
No mutual aid, interoperability, or direct? Just one channel? Sounds like their end users are a liability. I've successfully trained miners to use zones and selcall, there's no excuse for that.
This is true, not ALL features can come out but a lot can. We have had agency radios fielded for YEARS and have pulled out the features when they retired the radios and put them back in their vault. We then have transferred those SAME features back in their new radios. I dont know why WD8CHL has so many issues with doing this. We had EFJ walk us through it the first time and have done the same numerous times.
A few times the original dealer kept the radios in their vault and EFJ transferred them into our vault after speaking to the agency contact. I am floored that there is this much drama about this simple process. By the way, I have also had a used radio that one of the Ham guys bought on eBay come across my desk. I hooked it to Armada and it immedately started an option update after it connected to the Vault. It REMOVED an option from the feature set. I had NEVER had this radio connected to our programming PC and was watching it wondering why it did an option update after its inital codeplug read.
Of course I am sure someone will come along and tell me this didnt happen and blah blah, but just like transferring option back to the vault, i assure you this did too. I dont know what happened to the option as I did not notice a change in our vault. I can only say that the feature set indeed changed and something was removed.
Some time back before the VP900'S got EOL'ED (DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON THAT. LOL)
But I had purchased an option to femo for a customer and took my demo vp900 , connected to the vault (thats how efj sent it to me)..and when I connected the radio, the vault promptly removed almost everything and left me with a worthless radio, and those items removed were NOT in the vault..poof...gone....
Efj was a bit perplexed and I got it all back but had to send the radio in to left them look at it.
So anything is possible, I never say never with
But I had purchased an option to femo for a customer and took my demo vp900 , connected to the vault (thats how efj sent it to me)..and when I connected the radio, the vault promptly removed almost everything and left me with a worthless radio, and those items removed were NOT in the vault..poof...gone....
Efj was a bit perplexed and I got it all back but had to send the radio in to left them look at it.
So anything is possible, I never say never with
DeoVindice
P25 Underground
Vault 2.0's rollout was a mess in the opposite direction. A few radios in our fleet have the same feature installed in triplicate, rather than installed in multiple units. That was sorted out quickly.
AYoung2600
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I’ve had the same problem with Vault 2.0. After speaking with tech support they said that if the radio is old enough and vault has never seen it before it doesn’t show any of the options in the vault so it doesn’t think the radio should have them. Their solution is calling them before you connect any older radios so they can check a box so that the vault reads the options from the radio. I’ve never had to send any radios back in though. A quick phone call to them and they are able to look up the original order and put all of the options back into the radio.
Well, it's true we've never had a reason to take out P25 and trunking. But Phase 2 CANNOT be taken out. We've run across that already where a customer was going to get radios, so we had them all set up, including P2, then things fell apart, and we got stuck. We couldn't take the P2 license out.
Yeah, there's some out there that expect radios to work like what they see on Stat Trek-just say the name of who they want to talk to and they can talk...apparently.
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