Toronto Transit Commission - PowerTrunk TETRA

[HiVolt]

It's neat that this system is starting to get discovered much better now.

I guess the analog cutoff had to come for that to happen.

It would still be nice to figure out if a handheld radio that could be programmed (receive only of course).

 

[mciupa]

It's neat that this system is starting to get discovered much better now.

I guess the analog cutoff had to come for that to happen.

It would still be nice to figure out if a handheld radio that could be programmed (receive only of course).

I kinda missed monitoring it and because you guys helped with discovery we got this figured out rather quickly.

I switched over to CIS monitoring this morning and only heard voice on Hillcrest 423.6875 and Davisville 423.7625

Wilson on 423.7125, Finch on 423.6375 and Greenwood on 423.7000 only throw out a Morse ID periodically.

Not a peep out of Arrow, Malvern, Shipp or CN Tower on CIS.

 

[HiVolt]

101159 - Mount Dennis Garage

How do you monitor just CIS?

 

[mciupa]

How do you monitor just CIS?

I wasn't using SDR, I went back to the scanner.

 

[HiVolt]

I wasn't using SDR, I went back to the scanner.

Oh really, there is still something on CIS? I thought it was completely discontinued due to Bell shutting down the old network and a part of switching to VISION.

The only thing that still works on analog scanner in my area is the Scarborough RT.

 

[HiVolt]

101101 - Wayside Signal Maintainers

I've also heard someone was supposed to switch to a "Transportation Ch.2" in the west end, but on the 3 LA's that I can monitor from the east end, it did not pop up.

 

[mciupa]

I've tried to assign the Main and Current frequencies as seen in the Demodulator to the RadioReference database but for Tetra it won't accept it. I can only put them in as 01, 02 etc.. in the listings So, what I have done is put the Main channel as red and Current as blue. At least for the west side of Toronto.

 

[HiVolt]

I tried monitoring the Greenwood one from work. Its weird, really strong signal, with no errors, but the transmissions break up after a few seconds, and the talkgroup disappears from the display. yet, it keeps being lit up in the Timeslot.

if I switch it from auto to manual, and select the timeslot manually, it sounds perfect.

 

[gary123]

possibly a bug in the software?

 

[DRL-XM43]

My system has populated a few more confirmed LCN (I manually labeled the "unknown" talkgroups pending discovering what they are. Again the ones with talkgroups may not be accurate so corrections are welcomed.

0;302;2013;;0;True
60002;302;2013;Red Alarm ;0;True
101001;302;2013;Unknown;0;True
101007;302;2013;Unknown;0;True
101011;302;2013;Surface Ch. 1;0;True
101012;302;2013;Surface Ch. 2 Wheel Trans;0;True
101013;302;2013;Surface Ch. 3;0;True
101018;302;2013;Unknown;0;True
101101;302;2013;Wayside Signal Maintainers;0;True
101114;302;2013;Wayside Station Desk;0;True
101117;302;2013;Janitors;0;True
101132;302;2013;Wayside;0;True
101133;302;2013;Unknown;0;True
101143;302;2013;Unknown;0;True
101154;302;2013;Russell carhouse;0;True
101155;302;2013;Leslie Carhouse;0;True
101158;302;2013;Unknown;0;True
101159;302;2013;Mount Dennis Garage;0;True
101162;302;2013;Malvern Garage;0;True
102401;302;2013;Wayside Work Crews;0;True
102402;302;2013;Unknown;0;True
102404;302;2013;Unknown;0;True
102701;302;2013;Subway Shuttle;0;True
102702;302;2013;Unknown;0;True
102704;302;2013;Wayside Radio Techs;0;True
102721;302;2013;Shuttle Desk;0;True
102723;302;2013;YUS Tower;0;True
102724;302;2013;Roncy CIS;0;True
102727;302;2013;Streetcar Supervisors;0;True
102728;302;2013;Streetcar Supervisors;0;True
102732;302;2013;Bloor-Danforth Line 2 Tower;0;True
102733;302;2013;Unknown;0;True
131071;302;2013;Unknown;0;True
131074;302;2013;Unknown;0;True
131442;302;2013;Unknown;0;True

 

[mciupa]

Looking at the Net Info of the Current Cell I was parked on, I saw that the Color Code was 35 which is also the Local Area. I tried putting it into the RadioReference database but that feature is not accepted for the database listings.

When they send texts, I've noticed this line: SSI:310037 D_SDS_Data Party_SSI:5396 Type:3 Protocol:Simple_text_msg

 

[HiVolt]

When they send texts, I've noticed this line: SSI:310037 D_SDS_Data Party_SSI:5396 Type:3 Protocol:Simple_text_msg

Yeah too bad those arent being displayed. Im guessing this is messages for the buses, because i've heard some supervisors saying that the a bus didnt get a message, or to send a bus a message, etc...

 

[HiVolt]

Interesting situation during the snowstorm... The Malvern LA signal dropped at LEAST 20db for me, and is unusable, barely registers in the demodulator. However both Birchmount and Finch are strong.

I noticed this in the snow a week ago, but I thought it was an anomaly. Today proves it's not. Has anyone noticed this?

 

[mciupa]

Arrow coming in strong, Finch and Wilson very good, and Shipp is choppy from Islington & 401 area. Only way I hear Birchmount is on CIS. I'll try and give a listen later.

 

[HiVolt]

Yeah it's odd, becuase I'm closest to Malvern, and normally it's the strongest signal for me, but during snow event the signal seems broken up.

Finch & Birchmount while weaker because they're further form me, are solid with no signal issues.

 

[HiVolt]

Weird, once again the signal from Malvern is dying, oddly enough AFTER the brief snowsquall that passed thru the GTA.

During the snow, which wasn't heavy, it was mostly fine but I could see the signal start to drop.

 

[HiVolt]

I think Malvern has some issue with their antenna when snow covered. All night the signal was bad into the morning, and when the sun came out and melted the snow, the signal is back up.

 

[slicerwizard]

Must be a Lakeshore install.

 

[HiVolt]

New talkgroup discovered, 102716 - Transit Enforcement

They previously shared Surface Channel 1, but I heard earlier that they are testing a separate channel for the Fare Inspectors & Enforcement officers for this weekend.

 

[HiVolt]

131071 & 131074 - Transit Control to Bus PA

Heard it used several times to tell passengers that were causing a disturbance to leave the bus or stop what they were doing, and that everything is video recorded.