Toronto Unknown DMR's

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Some stuff I logged from yesterday
463.9625 DMR CC 5 TG 2020 I believe this could be One King St W Hotel & Residence as I also logged previous 452.5375 DMR CC 5 TG 1010 & 4040. Which are both licensed to them.
453.8875 Cap+ CC 9 TG 140 Could this be the 2nd LCN for CAMH?
454.2250 Cap+ CC 6 Didn't hear any TG's while in the area but its probably the Four Seasons. I only was able to hear it heard it the closer to Yorkville I got. It disappeared once I went more south on bay near Bloor.
452.2625 DMR CC 9 TG 1 Probably 2 Bloor St E. Heard it outside with no antenna.

452.2625 Cap+ CC 1 TG 132
451.1875 DMR CC 6 TG 10.. maybe 2 Queen E?
460.1625 DMR CC 12 TG 30 Cleaners.. heard while walking through the TD Centre.. maybe Richmond-Adelaide Centre?

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Great finds Matt! Maybe you might want to look into the TD Centre. I haven't heard them in a while as they were Cap+ maybe they are DMR conventional now?
 

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Great finds Matt! Maybe you might want to look into the TD Centre. I haven't heard them in a while as they were Cap+ maybe they are DMR conventional now?

I do remember hearing them on the Cap+ just recently but will check when I am down there again.

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451.4750 Cap+ CC 10 and 451.1375 Cap+ CC 10 TG 109/110/126 all encrypted.. in the past I heard also 105/106/128 all encrypted. I believe this is Ontario Place as they are licensed on both frequencies.

I think I found the rest of the Ontario Place / Budweiser Stage system. LCNs are confirmed as far as DSDPlus reported. Very buzy this weekend with the Sing concert.

Cap+ Site 1 DCC 10, all EP encryption

Ch 1/2 451.1375
Ch 3/4 451.4750
Ch 5/6 452.1375

Logged TGs 101, 102, 108, 109, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 122, 126, 130, 150.
 

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I was back in Toronto today for another dentist appointment and did a bunch of walking today. I was able to finally, finally able to figure out that 413.2125 is CAMH! I was also able to confirm Ontario Place and Toronto Western.

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Hi Matt. First off, thank you so much for sharing all these amazing findings. I've been meaning to ask for a while now and finally got around to asking.

You mentioned you were able to finally confirm Toronto Western (Hospital). Did I miss where you posted it? I see it is no longer listed in Radio Reference under University Health Network.

Also is Sunnybrook part of UHN. They used to be at the frequency listed in RR but have gone silent except for occasional use by engineering and the security car which may be only radio still on that frequency. TAFL has so far proven to be useless which is no surprise since the frequency they used to have was never associated to Sunnybrook in TAFL either.

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I think I found the rest of the Ontario Place / Budweiser Stage system. LCNs are confirmed as far as DSDPlus reported. Very buzy this weekend with the Sing concert.

Cap+ Site 1 DCC 10, all EP encryption

Ch 1/2 451.1375
Ch 3/4 451.4750
Ch 5/6 452.1375

Logged TGs 101, 102, 108, 109, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 122, 126, 130, 150.

Great job finding the other frequency!

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Hi Matt. First off, thank you so much for sharing all these amazing findings. I've been meaning to ask for a while now and finally got around to asking.

You mentioned you were able to finally confirm Toronto Western (Hospital). Did I miss where you posted it? I see it is no longer listed in Radio Reference under University Health Network.

Also is Sunnybrook part of UHN. They used to be at the frequency listed in RR but have gone silent except for occasional use by engineering and the security car which may be only radio still on that frequency. TAFL has so far proven to be useless which is no surprise since the frequency they used to have was never associated to Sunnybrook in TAFL either.

thanks again

I don't think I posted the frequency here but did send it to the DB to be added. I sat outside Toronto Western and 452.2625 Cap+ DCC 8 was full blast for me. So this was definitely them but I didn't see any TG's or any other frequencies active while there though. I do see 453.8875 and 454.2000 licensed to them as well so probably those could be active as well.

I looked at Sunnybrook's web page and it seems they are affiliated with UFT as a teaching hospital but doesn't seem affiliated with UHN. I see 451.6625, 453.7000 & 454.2250 all licensed to them in the TAFL.

I heard 452.2625 Cap+ CC 11 TG 132 while up near Yonge and Wellesley. It was security.

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Some of the stuff that I was able to confirm today.. I have a bunch of others to check and will post that after the confirmed.

Brookfield Place Sec
452.8125 NX9 RAN 2 TG 0

One King West Hotel & Residence
452.5375 DMR CC 5 & 463.9625 DMR CC 5 TG 2020 Food Service, also heard TG 1010 and 4040 in the past

Four Seasons Hotel & Residence
454.2250 Cap+ CC 6 Heard TG 9

2 Bloor St East
452.2625 DMR CC 9 TG 1 Security

If anyone is in the area CIBC Square has 2 licensed frequencies 935.0125 & 935.0500 with the DMR emission code. I tried listening to them while waiting around Union Station for my train to come but didn't hear anything. Maybe someone close will have better luck.

Unknowns from today..

454.2000 NX9 RAN 1 TG 1 Security and TG 5 unknown.. heard with no antenna inside Bay-Adelaide Centre and full strength at street level at Yonge & Adelaide. Could this be part of FCP? I don't see anything else nearby licensed that it could be..

453.7250 DMR CC 10 TG 1 heard in Yorkville.. The Colonnade is located nearby and is licensed on this freq

453.7250 DMR CC 8 TG 102 Security.. heard while walking underground between TD Center and FCP

452.2125 Cap+ CC 11 TG 70 heard something about getting something from a mechanical room.. heard outside Princess Margaret Hospital with no antenna

462.2375 DMR CC 5 TG 10 Sec .. heard while in Yorkville. only nearby licensees is 2 Bloor East and Legislative Assembly Of Ontario.

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Some of the stuff that I was able to confirm today.. I have a bunch of others to check and will post that after the confirmed.

Brookfield Place Sec
452.8125 NX9 RAN 2 TG 0

One King West Hotel & Residence
452.5375 DMR CC 5 & 463.9625 DMR CC 5 TG 2020 Food Service, also heard TG 1010 and 4040 in the past

Four Seasons Hotel & Residence
454.2250 Cap+ CC 6 Heard TG 9

2 Bloor St East
452.2625 DMR CC 9 TG 1 Security

If anyone is in the area CIBC Square has 2 licensed frequencies 935.0125 & 935.0500 with the DMR emission code. I tried listening to them while waiting around Union Station for my train to come but didn't hear anything. Maybe someone close will have better luck.

Unknowns from today..

454.2000 NX9 RAN 1 TG 1 Security and TG 5 unknown.. heard with no antenna inside Bay-Adelaide Centre and full strength at street level at Yonge & Adelaide. Could this be part of FCP? I don't see anything else nearby licensed that it could be..

453.7250 DMR CC 10 TG 1 heard in Yorkville.. The Colonnade is located nearby and is licensed on this freq

453.7250 DMR CC 8 TG 102 Security.. heard while walking underground between TD Center and FCP

452.2125 Cap+ CC 11 TG 70 heard something about getting something from a mechanical room.. heard outside Princess Margaret Hospital with no antenna

462.2375 DMR CC 5 TG 10 Sec .. heard while in Yorkville. only nearby licensees is 2 Bloor East and Legislative Assembly Of Ontario.

Matt
Good finds, Matt. With that Cap+ system there, I think you've posted it before with a different TG. Perhaps it's part of UHN? Maybe another site?
 

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Good finds, Matt. With that Cap+ system there, I think you've posted it before with a different TG. Perhaps it's part of UHN? Maybe another site?

Yes I looked at my radio I also have a TG 58 listed as Maintenance on the same system. I have no idea what this could be tho, could be another hospital..

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Here are some more from my walk in Toronto on Thurs.
454.2000 DMR CC 7 TG 35351 Security.. resident smashed the box.. heard full with antenna at Yonge-Adelaide.. maybe a condo?
452.2125 Cap+ CC 11 TG 132.. bring a vacuum up to the 14th Floor.. heard around Yonge-Dundas Sq
460.1625 DMR CC 4 TG 10 need assist F2.. heard around Bloor-Yonge
452.0625 DMR CC 3 TG 2302.. heard in Yorkville
453.7000 DMR CC 3 TG 1301.. heard full with antenna in Yorkville and low signal without.. maybe a hotel?
453.7250 DMR CC 10 TG 100.. heard full with antenna in Yorkville.. come to Cumberland entrance.. maybe Cumberland Terrace
460.1625 DMR CC 7 TG 243.. heard outside WCH
408.0125 DMR CC 1 TG 211015.. heard around Bay/College
454.2000 DMR CC 5 TG 52 Maintenance.. weak signal heard around Bay/College
460.1625 DMR TG 12 TG 30 Security.. heard while around Maple Leaf Sq
460.1625 DMR TG 12 TG 30 Security.. heard while around Maple Leaf Sq
453.8875 Cap+ CC 11 TG 246 & 254.. heard while around Maple Lead Sq
Also I finally heard the security TG at Commerce Court.. they where using TG 10 on Site 1 (453.6625 NX9 RAN 1)

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Here are some more from my walk in Toronto on Thurs.
454.2000 DMR CC 7 TG 35351 Security.. resident smashed the box.. heard full with antenna at Yonge-Adelaide.. maybe a condo?
452.2125 Cap+ CC 11 TG 132.. bring a vacuum up to the 14th Floor.. heard around Yonge-Dundas Sq
460.1625 DMR CC 4 TG 10 need assist F2.. heard around Bloor-Yonge
452.0625 DMR CC 3 TG 2302.. heard in Yorkville
453.7000 DMR CC 3 TG 1301.. heard full with antenna in Yorkville and low signal without.. maybe a hotel?
453.7250 DMR CC 10 TG 100.. heard full with antenna in Yorkville.. come to Cumberland entrance.. maybe Cumberland Terrace
460.1625 DMR CC 7 TG 243.. heard outside WCH
408.0125 DMR CC 1 TG 211015.. heard around Bay/College
454.2000 DMR CC 5 TG 52 Maintenance.. weak signal heard around Bay/College
460.1625 DMR TG 12 TG 30 Security.. heard while around Maple Leaf Sq
460.1625 DMR TG 12 TG 30 Security.. heard while around Maple Leaf Sq
453.8875 Cap+ CC 11 TG 246 & 254.. heard while around Maple Lead Sq
Also I finally heard the security TG at Commerce Court.. they where using TG 10 on Site 1 (453.6625 NX9 RAN 1)

Matt
Good finds. Maybe the 453.8875 is part of Porter's Cap+ system. I can usally pick up thier system around Maple Leafs Sqaure.
 

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My logs from Monday
460.925 DMR CC 11 TG 5779 Security.. i have heard this one before.. this time the signal wasn't that strong and I was around Mt Sinai.. so might have to check to see if this is One Queen as I suspect.
452.2625 DMR CC 9 TG 200 Security. heard around Mt Sinai Hosp.. I have also heard TG 100 on this Freq/CC combo..
452.2625 Cap+ CC 10 TG 500 Security heard this up around Mt Sinai as well. TG 600 has been heard on this Freq/CC combo as well.
453.7250 DMR CC 7 TG 100 heard around Elizabeth and Gerald
453.7250 DMR CC 10 TG 2 heard around College Park.. heard also TG 1 on this Freq.CC combo.. possibly the Colonnade in Yorkville.
454.2000 DMR CC 7 TG 35351 about to do a fire alarm test.. heard around College Park
453.8875 Cap+ CC 7 TG 204 Security.. heard around Yonge-Dundas Sq
452.8125 DMR CC 4 TG 1 Security. the customer from divided? heard around Yonge Dundas Sq

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A few more from yestreday
452.0625 DMR CC 8 TG 10 Security.. heard this down in the Financial District around Wellington and Bay
453.8875 Cap+ CC 7 TG 204.. sounds like maintenance people.. unit 3 on the roof.. heard around College Park

Can someone try to get some more info on these two frequencies? I have no idea who they are and they have been stumping me hard.. I heard them both around the College Park area
452.2125 Cap+ CC 11 TG 132
463.8250 DMR CC 1 TG 150 Security and TG 160 Maintenance.. on the TG 160 I heard them talking about collecting the garbage and that one of them was busy in the mall.. I heard this one with an antenna at full strength but didn't hear it without. could this be maybe Aura or something else in the area? Anyone know if College Park is still active on their old frequency?

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I was looking at my recently heard unknowns.. and noticed 452.2125 Cap+ CC 11 and 452.2625 Cap CC 11 are most likely part of the same system. I did heard 452.2125 without an antenna right near PMH but it's not licensed to them as far as we can see in what is listed in the TAFL. Although 452.2625 is licensed to Toronto Rehab which is right next door to PMH. So this could of Toronto Rehab. I can check next time I am in Toronto unless someone nearby can?

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I was looking at my recently heard unknowns.. and noticed 452.2125 Cap+ CC 11 and 452.2625 Cap CC 11 are most likely part of the same system. I did heard 452.2125 without an antenna right near PMH but it's not licensed to them as far as we can see in what is listed in the TAFL. Although 452.2625 is licensed to Toronto Rehab which is right next door to PMH. So this could of Toronto Rehab. I can check next time I am in Toronto unless someone nearby can?
Matt
I was downtown a few weeks ago and noticed that TGH recently changed their colour code. I turned on colour code search and picked them up just fine. I'm not sure what their new colour code is since I was scanning it as a MotoTRBO trunk system.

I went downtown today and listening to both SickKids and Mount Sinai today. I'm hearing very similar comm's on both systems in addition to the same radio ID's.
Is it possible 453.8875 is also part of Sick Kids also? I could be wrong.
 

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I was downtown a few weeks ago and noticed that TGH recently changed their colour code. I turned on colour code search and picked them up just fine. I'm not sure what their new colour code is since I was scanning it as a MotoTRBO trunk system.

I went downtown today and listening to both SickKids and Mount Sinai today. I'm hearing very similar comm's on both systems in addition to the same radio ID's.
Is it possible 453.8875 is also part of Sick Kids also? I could be wrong.

I don't think so.. it doesn't show any site info or anything like the other ones..

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I don't think so.. it doesn't show any site info or anything like the other ones..

Matt
Was downtown today for an appointment. I brought my 436 with me inside MSH and was getting no signal inside the hospital. However, I used a stubby antenna to filter out any bleed over or interference. I did walk outside a fair bit and was getting 453.8875
CC 12 with a very strong signal around SickKids. I might need to take a walk inside HSC to see if this is related to HSC's Site 2 since It was showing Site 2 in Analyze mode.
 

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I did walk outside a fair bit and was getting 453.8875 CC 12 with a very strong signal around SickKids.

I've logged before 453.8875 Cap+ Ch 1/2. There's so much noise (RF and environmental) down there it's extremely difficult to concentrate on the discovery work while being discreet.

TG 1 Security (University Av ramp, centre doors, information desk, emergency. CODE BLUE)
TG 3 Mechanics (Annex bldg)
TG 4 Linen?
TG 5 PCL Construction
TG 8 Security Patrols (building north, Dundas and Bay) Echo & Tango units
 
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