Toronto Unknown DMR's

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I've logged before 453.8875 Cap+ Ch 1/2. There's so much noise (RF and environmental) down there it's extremely difficult to concentrate on the discovery work while being discreet.

TG 1 Security (University Av ramp, centre doors, information desk, emergency. CODE BLUE)
TG 3 Mechanics (Annex bldg)
TG 4 Linen?
TG 5 PCL Construction
TG 8 Security Patrols (building north, Dundas and Bay) Echo & Tango units
Interesting. Bay and Dundas is pretty close to Sick Kids. May still be something else other than them.
 

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Was downtown today for an Appointment. I brought my 436 with me inside MSH and was getting no signal inside the hospital. However, I used a stubby antenna to filter out any bleed over or interference. I did walk outside a fair bit and was getting 453.8875
CC 12 with a very strong signal around SickKids. I might need to take a walk inside HSC to see if this is related to HSC's site 2 since It was showing site 2 in analyse mode.

I am 99.999999% it's Sick Kids.. I sat inside SK today for about an hour and scanned and this is what I was able to figure out..

Site 1
453.7125 CC 8 LCN 1
410.6625 CC7 LCN ?
Site 2
453.8875 CC 12 LCN 1
452.0625 CC 10 LCN ?

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I am 99.999999% it's Sick Kids.. I sat inside SK today for about an hour and scanned and this is what I was able to figure out..

Site 1
453.7125 CC 8 LCN 1
410.6625 CC7 LCN ?
Site 2
453.8875 CC 12 LCN 1
452.0625 CC 10 LCN ?

Matt
Great work! That makes a lot more sense. When I first discovered the HSC system years ago, I remember seeing 453.8875 pop up. I'll have to confirm that next time I am downtown, as for MSH, that can probably be deleted from the DB and I guess we are starting all over again :( However, those unknowns you found Matt are promising and also might be WCH?
 

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I also have an inkling that the 406/422 frequency I posted in the past is Mount Sinai.. I am always hearing it when I am at Hospital Row but never outside of that area, and that the 452.2125/2625 is either PMH or Toronto Rehab but those will be my next to check.

I haven't been able to figure out WCH and St Mike's. Even with sitting right outside both locations, looking at any of the unknowns I have heard over the past couple months, is either hospital.

Matt
 

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Great work @mbstone99 . I do not get to Toronto often enough, and do not really want to end up in a hospital.
Have you tried checking the input frequencies to see if you can get a better hit? So you can see if those signals can help ID the building they are coming from.
 

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Great work @mbstone99 . I do not get to Toronto often enough, and do not really want to end up in a hospital.
Have you tried checking the input frequencies to see if you can get a better hit? So you can see if those signals can help ID the building they are coming from.

I haven't tried the input, but I have tried using my little Diamond stubby antenna and no antenna at all.

Matt
 

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I was thinking sometimes you can get lucky and actually see someone talking on a unit and possibly grab the freq in use. Maintainance people are sometimes nice enough to do a quick key up if your ready and ask nicely.
 

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I also have an inkling that the 406/422 frequency I posted in the past is Mount Sinai.. I am always hearing it when I am at Hospital Row but never outside of that area, and that the 452.2125/2625 is either PMH or Toronto Rehab but those will be my next to check.

I haven't been able to figure out WCH and St Mike's. Even with sitting right outside both locations, looking at any of the unknowns I have heard over the past couple months, is either hospital.

Matt
Matt, which were the 406 and 422 freqs again? Thanks
 

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Great, thanks! I believe the 406 one is licensed to them. Also, didn't we suspect that the 422 one was St. Joseph's?

Ya, that is the pair I thought was St Joe's, but lately I have been hearing them regularly when I am around Mount Sinai. That could be them.

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I was downtown today and was hearing Commerce Court and observed TG 10 and 12. Matt, are those in the clear? My 436 kept skipping over them not sure if they're ENC.
 

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I was downtown today and was hearing Commerce Court and observed TG 10 and 12. Matt, are those in the clear? My 436 kept skipping over them not sure if there ENC.

I believe when I was heard them they where in the clear.

Question for all.. Did Billy Bishop go back to Cap+? I and not seeing the T3 anymore and on their licensed frequencies I am seeing a Cap+ again.. 461.2375 was a Cap+ CC 3 TG 70.

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Ontario Place seems to have added a bunch of new frequencies to their trunk.. not sure if something is going on down there tonight or did.. but this afternoon I was in the city and heard these active as well.
454.0875 CC 10 LCN 6
454.9000 CC 10 LCN ?
454.6250 CC 10 LCN 7

Could someone who is nearby check all of the frequencies licensed to them as we are definitely missing a few LCN's.

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I was able to confirm today 453.8875 Cap+ CC 9 LCN 2 is part of CAMH as well. I did also find that Hotel X (at Exhibition Place) is using 454.3625 Cap+ CC 5 TG 101 is operations.. I am surprised too that Exhibition Place is still using their really old LTR system.

462.8250 came up as a XPT system with a CC of 14 and TG 7. Does anyone know who this could be? I heard it around College Park.. I couldn't figure out what type of comm's these where though.

Oh, on the subject of CAMH. There is a bunch of TG's that I have found that still need to be identified.. TG 105, 110, 115, 135, 140, 150. Also heard was 100 Security?, 120 Maintenance? and 130 Environmental Services. Some of these are in the DB but think now that we have a complete system we should reverify.. and which site is it for.

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I agree! I had figured out their system years ago and that was when the original DB submission was made. Since then, it looks like there have been many changes. There are a few other ones In the DB I'd like to review also. There is also a whole bunch of analog stuff that can be deleted too.
Oh on the subject of CAMH.. There is a bunch of TG's that I have found that still need to be identified.. TG 105, 110, 115, 135, 140, 150. Also heard was 100 Security?, 120 Maintenance? and 130 Environmental Services. Some of these are in the DB but think now that we have a complete system we should reverify.. and which site is it for.

Matt
 

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Back downtown, I'm fairly certain 454.7500 TG 320 S1 is the Ryerson Athletic Centre. All RID are 5. lol.

Also picked up these two along College and Bay.
462.2375 DMR BS DCC 15 TG 100 S1 (sounds like security patrols securing areas), DMR BS DCC 11 TG 103 S2
463.6375 DMR BS DCC 6 TG 100
 

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Back downtown, I'm fairly certain 454.7500 TG 320 S1 is the Ryerson Athletic Centre. All RID are 5. lol.

Also picked up these two along College and Bay.
462.2375 DMR BS DCC 15 TG 100 S1 (sounds like security patrols securing areas), DMR BS DCC 11 TG 103 S2
463.6375 DMR BS DCC 6 TG 100

The 463.6375 is in the DB as Metrix Ready Mix with the CC and TG.

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Back downtown, I'm fairly certain 454.7500 TG 320 S1 is the Ryerson Athletic Centre. All RID are 5. lol.

Also picked up these two along College and Bay.
462.2375 DMR BS DCC 15 TG 100 S1 (sounds like security patrols securing areas), DMR BS DCC 11 TG 103 S2
463.6375 DMR BS DCC 6 TG 100

I have heard the 454.7500 as well back in Sept full strength when I was at Yonge-Dundas Square. So I am thinking you are right on this one.

I heard today when I was in Toronto
462.2375 DMR CC 3 TG 10 Security.. heard someone mention that someone can't hear anything on their Legislative Assembly radio. I did check and it is licensed on that frequency at the LA but the address listed is 99 Wellesley St W which is the Whitney Block.

Also I was hearing the 452.2125/452.2625 Cap+ CC 11 TG 50 against today while walking through the MaRS Centre. It's definitely somewhere around WCH/MaRS and it very well could be WCH.

Matt
 
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