Trinity EMS Torrington

[Mork]

Trinity is on the Homeland Defence Network by Marcus Communications. Their TG is in the database. I hear them on the Wolcott Site (1.6) using DSD+. I would believe that they are on the Torrington site, too, but I can't receive that far.

Homeland Defense Network Trunking System, Various, Connecticut

Homeland Defense Network Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

Thank you. That is the information I have and yet I don't receive them. My Question was actually directed to member 55engine who stated he could receive Torrington Trinity.

 

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Thank you. That is the information I have and yet I don't receive them. My Question was actually directed to member 55engine who stated he could receive Torrington Trinity.

No Problem. What site and what radio are you using to try to receive them? I see you mentioned that you are using an SDS, 536 and 996P2.

Im not too sure, and I may have some outdated info, but I think there was a bug with Trunktracking Hytera on Unidens that was never addressed. Ive never gotten my SDS200 to work on this system after downloading it directly from the database via Proscan, but I think other people have gotten it to work somehow.

 

[MarkB513]

No Problem. What site and what radio are you using to try to receive them? I see you mentioned that you are using an SDS, 536 and 996P2.

Im not too sure, and I may have some outdated info, but I think there was a bug with Trunktracking Hytera on Unidens that was never addressed. Ive never gotten my SDS200 to work on this system after downloading it directly from the database via Proscan, but I think other people have gotten it to work somehow.

Yes, this has been discussed in multiple threads in the past with many trying to monitor Hunters Ambulance. Uniden's will not track it. You'll find if you stop the scan on an active frequency, only then will the audio come through. Therefore, the only work around I could figure out was to program each individual frequency for the site you're monitoring into it's own site within the scanner and then scan all the sites. Only then will it recognize the talk groups.

 

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Yes, this has been discussed in multiple threads in the past with many trying to monitor Hunters Ambulance. Uniden's will not track it. You'll find if you stop the scan on an active frequency, only then will the audio come through. Therefore, the only work around I could figure out was to program each individual frequency for the site you're monitoring into it's own site within the scanner and then scan all the sites. Only then will it recognize the talk groups.

Wow, thanks for the info. Short-term memory loss, lol. And It's been discussed so many times that I can't keep track. I will try that on my SDS tonight and see how it goes. In the meantime maybe @JoeBearcat can take a look and pass it on?

 

[cg]

I think he is looking at it. I am hoping he can get the info supplied to the right folks for finding the issue. One of the bigger fights might be getting the System and Site info working correctly with certain systems.
Here it the thread he has responded to...

BCD325P2/BCD996P2: - BCD325P2 Tier 3 Capacity Max Support

I'm having some issues with getting a Tier 3 system to work correctly on my BCD325P2. I have inputted (and converted) CH IDs from DSDPlus to my BCD325P2, but I cannot get it to switch to a voice call. I see and hear the voice call activity on DSDPlus, but my BCD325P2 stays on the control channel...

forums.radioreference.com

While it is a 996P2 & 325P2 thread, once issues are identified, I would imagine it will trickle into any of the other affected radios.

chris

 

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I think he is looking at it. I am hoping he can get the info supplied to the right folks for finding the issue. One of the bigger fights might be getting the System and Site info working correctly with certain systems.
Here it the thread he has responded to...

BCD325P2/BCD996P2: - BCD325P2 Tier 3 Capacity Max Support

I'm having some issues with getting a Tier 3 system to work correctly on my BCD325P2. I have inputted (and converted) CH IDs from DSDPlus to my BCD325P2, but I cannot get it to switch to a voice call. I see and hear the voice call activity on DSDPlus, but my BCD325P2 stays on the control channel...

forums.radioreference.com

While it is a 996P2 & 325P2 thread, once issues are identified, I would imagine it will trickle into any of the other affected radios.

chris

Im not too sure about that. CapMax is a different system type than Hytera TIII is. Ive monitored 3 Different Hytera systems and have only gotten one of them to work. The other 2, not so much. All 3 Behave differently, even tho each system is Hytera. Im led to believe that each is its own "sub" type of Hytera.

I don't think, and I may be wrong, that Uniden has updated its interpretation of DMR TIII to differentiate between Standard and Non-Standard System Types.

Although Hytera systems are Standard systems (at least that way in the DB), I believe that the hardware between the 3 systems is different. Therefore, all 3 are behaving differently on my SDS. I have no problem listening to them with DSD+ or even SDR Trunking.

 

[firerick100]

So trinity is not on the analog frequency anymore in Waterbury? I have them on and it’s been quiet

 

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Im sorry if my attitude gets in the way here. But are you even looking at the database?

Better yet, I even linked it in my post (#20) above.

Oy Vey!

 

[firerick100]

Yep looked but they still have the analog listed and was working a few weeks ago then I went on vacation for 2 weeks and now nothing 😂 oh well, now I have to put new system in and hope it works

 

[firerick100]

I put the control frequency and Waterbury along with just 1 talkgrouo in my Sds100 and it does not pick up any comms from trinity.

 

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I put the control frequency and Waterbury along with just 1 talkgrouo in my Sds100 and it does not pick up any comms from trinity.

This thread is about how some can pick up Trinity on their Unidens. Apparently, it's a well-documented issue. Reread some of the posts recently in this thread and the others linked to learn more.

 

[MarkB513]

Wow, thanks for the info. Short-term memory loss, lol. And It's been discussed so many times that I can't keep track. I will try that on my SDS tonight and see how it goes. In the meantime maybe @JoeBearcat can take a look and pass it on?

Apparently, I've made a liar of myself, because I can't get the scanner to track now even with putting the frequencies in separate scanner sites. However, I am positive I was able to do this with my past BCD996P2 I recently retired/replaced (one of the first models released I used to death), so maybe I was working with a different firmware effecting it. I can tell you Trinity is definitely using the system. If you program 461.6625 into a site and hold on it, you will hear them. And I am not getting them confused with Hunter's. That frequency seems to be the first hit, but unfortunately you will hear everybody else on the system too. It actually doesn't seem that busy compared to the Avon site, but I was listening over the weekend, too. One possitive note, conversations don't hope around between frequencies. I know there is currently another thread where they are working on the issue with Uniden, I hope they are successful!!!

 

[cg]

Looking into the data dumps from the Uniden scanners (with much assistance), there appears that there may be errors in their data stream that prevents the radios from finding the frequency info. I am in the process of trying to forward it to the correct person now.

 

[MarkB513]

Looking into the data dumps from the Uniden scanners (with much assistance), there appears that there may be errors in their data stream that prevents the radios from finding the frequency info. I am in the process of trying to forward it to the correct person now.

Good luck. Obviously, we are all hoping for success. It's nice to know Uniden is trying to correct something on a retired radio that's supposedly no longer supported. Especially since, if you're correct, the issue is due to the system's data stream. It says a lot about the Uniden guys.

 

[cg]

325P2 & 996P2 are still current radios.
The frustrating part is that this information is all in the ETSI DMR Trunking standard and should be in the radio. I would guess that they did not address all the options due to either firmware space or licensing issues but it could simply be because they did not enter something correctly in the code.

 

[MarkB513]

325P2 & 996P2 are still current radios.
The frustrating part is that this information is all in the ETSI DMR Trunking standard and should be in the radio. I would guess that they did not address all the options due to either firmware space or licensing issues but it could simply be because they did not enter something correctly in the code.

For some reason I thought they dropped the support on the BCD996P2 within the past year. Did they stop producing it, but still support it?

I have to assume if it's firmware space or licensing issues, where all out of luck. Hopefully it comes down to incorrect code they can fix. Time will tell I guess. I only found out the other day this was even a work in progress, when you had mentioned the other thread.

 

[cg]

The Uniden firmware released today, 10/25/24, for the 325P2/996P2 now allows the monitoring of Hytera TIII. Occasionally it seems slow to pickup some activity but is trunktracking the TIII DMR.

 

[Reconrider]

The Uniden firmware released today, 10/25/24, for the 325P2/996P2 now allows the monitoring of Hytera TIII. Occasionally it seems slow to pickup some activity but is trunktracking the TIII DMR.

Hopefully they port that to sds series. it works but you can't decode the LCNs. need to use 0 for the LCN so it works

 

[cg]

There seems to be room for improvement to the late entry messages. Not consistently picking up active talkgroup once another conversation ends.

The Hytera Multi-Block system need only the Control channel as the frequency info is sent in the data packets. Appears to be working well with a test Site with only the CC entered.
Also, it will likely work with no channel number entered when you program the Control Channel. I had success with 0 entered.

chris

 

[55engine]

Can someone please help me with this? I don’t understand what I’m doing wrong I can’t find where I downloaded it.
New software it tells me to update net framework and what windows will this work on?