MIlford is being patched in via SWCMED using MED 52.
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MIlford is being patched in via SWCMED using MED 52.
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leadjammer
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I live in Hamden and don't hear anything on MED 102. Maybe Hamden is out of range. Has anyone in my area heard anything on MED 102. All I know is I really miss the old days of CMED already. With the old CMED all you needed was MED 10 and you knew exactly what was happening. Now...well forget it. I heard some brief traffic on MED 14 last night but it was really short and missed who was on there. I've also heard New Haven Police stake outs on this same channel in the past.
I live in Hamden and don't hear anything on MED 102. Maybe Hamden is out of range. Has anyone in my area heard anything on MED 102. All I know is I really miss the old days of CMED already. With the old CMED all you needed was MED 10 and you knew exactly what was happening. Now...well forget it. I heard some brief traffic on MED 14 last night but it was really short and missed who was on there. I've also heard New Haven Police stake outs on this same channel in the past.
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Yeah, I hear the Yale and Raphaels patches on med-7 still by MedCom ( AMR)
Yes but is this true for EVERYBODY going to Milford hosp?
Manny
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Manny
I believe so. The radio tech that did some reprogramming of our radios did the base station and portable radio used in Milford's ED also. They only have MED 52 in their radio.
Also in the bulletin (I think) that MED COM sent out I believe it states that any unit going to Milford has to switch to SWMED Med 9 (if coming from another area not covered my SWCMED) and request a patch to Milford.
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I believe so. The radio tech that did some reprogramming of our radios did the base station and portable radio used in Milford's ED also. They only have MED 52 in their radio.
Also in the bulletin (I think) that MED COM sent out I believe it states that any unit going to Milford has to switch to SWMED Med 9 (if coming from another area not covered my SWCMED) and request a patch to Milford.
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Reading this thread has been very interesting. I haven't heard of a hospital patch in years. It feels like such an outdated way of communicating with the hospital. Most of my area in NY uses 155.340 CSQ with a DTMF activation unique to each hospital you want to contact. The VHF coverage is outstanding. Like I said, just seems mostly outdated and unnecessary to me.
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Thanks! It makes sense since Milford is now under SWCMED that everybody would go through them.
I haven't heard anything on Med 52 so far.
Manny
When I was in the rig and would tune into the old Med 8 on SC CMED to listen to a patch by another crew I was never able to hear the crew only the hospital. I would be in the area of the hospital and or the crew also. This may be true for Med 52 also.
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It was actually a better system that a lot of places in my opinion. But of course, each place / region is different in many ways and you have to meet its demand. What works for you may not work for us, and vice versa.
The greater New Haven area is a really busy place so having a primary dispatch channel and separate med channels the dispatchers had full control over the communications and assignment of which hospitals were "hooked up" to the patch channels. Especially in New Haven where it was the busiest. Using just one channel like you use for your area wouldn't really work well for ours.
If you haven't seen any of the other post in this section about C-MED New Haven, I was a dispatcher there. So here is the quick of it. When I left there in 2007, we handled roughly 120,000 calls for service which also included C-MED services, municipal fire and EMS dispatch for a few towns, regional EMS and Hazmat activation and regional intercity fire co-ordination.
In the old region we had 6 hospitals and one clinic under our control and we had the 8 "patch-in" channels. We covered 20 towns in the region which had several fire departments (some provided either transporting or first responder / paramedic services), several separate town EMS agencies and a few private EMS contractors and regional paramedic services. Also we had a lot of other ambulance agencies come into the two hospitals in New Haven because they were both trauma centers, the area VA hospital and the other three hospitals were close for a lot of out of area regions as well.
Now we had 4 main tower sites with Med 10 (main dispatch) and two Med Patch channels on it (each a different one). We also had four single radio med patch antennas located throughout the region. The Med patch channels were connected to a "telephone matrix" which could hook up any of these channels to each hospital intercom. So if you were to look at a map of our region (I see you are from out of state) an Ambulance coming from Madison in to Yale-New Haven hospital in New Haven could be hooked up to a med channel located out in their area and give their patch. As the Madison unit got closer to the hospital, we could switch to another tower so they could re-contact the hospital. The downside would be the ambulance would have to switch the channel on their radio to the appropriate one.
It was also good for MCI's where the hospital could be hooked up to the closest tower were the incident was occurring. Many of the Med patch channels on our system were repeater systems and could be utilized for large area coverage of an incident. Some of the radios also were programmed so that each channel had a talk-around simplex tactical use.
It was a really good way of running things for a busy area. Unfortunately it stayed the same and wasn't really updated to its full potential as years went on. And the dispatchers who were still there after I left made it a great system despite the technological short-comings.
That makes sense in the grand scheme of things. No our single VHF channel couldn't hold volume like that. The Med channels in my area (Central NY) have been silent for years. Occasionally some skip will appear for a few minutes. But enough about NY... Continue with CT
ecps92
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YMMV but the CMED Systems were originally meant to be Full Duplex
So the Hospital Could transmit at the same time as the Ambulance (APCoR)
Now they are Semi Duplex, SOME might be repeaters, but generally listening to the 463 Mhz will only result in hearing the Hospital, to hear the Ambulance/Helo you need to listen to the 468 Mhz
So the Hospital Could transmit at the same time as the Ambulance (APCoR)
Now they are Semi Duplex, SOME might be repeaters, but generally listening to the 463 Mhz will only result in hearing the Hospital, to hear the Ambulance/Helo you need to listen to the 468 Mhz
ecs92..
Thanks. That makes sense. I knew it had something to do with the way it was set. I could hear Med 7 patches in Milford but I couldn't hear the Milford patches in Milford. Not having a scanner with me, only the truck radio, I couldn't investigate it further.
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Thanks. That makes sense. I knew it had something to do with the way it was set. I could hear Med 7 patches in Milford but I couldn't hear the Milford patches in Milford. Not having a scanner with me, only the truck radio, I couldn't investigate it further.
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So is the data base updated with all the new freqs and pl tones for all the med channels so i can update my scanner
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In North Central (and I suspect the other original CMEDS), all the Med channels are repeater capable but the repeaters were not switched on. The dispatcher would activate it to allow you to talk to another mobile unit. Now, more often than not, the repeaters are on much of the time.
Connecticut's CMEDs (or Coordinated Emergency Medical Direction) came into being after the Windsor Locks tornado in 1979 when a lack of coordination had hundreds of patients end up at Mt Sinai Hospital while relatively few went to Hartford or St Francis. As the name implies, one of the functions of CMED was to coordinate the distribution of patients throughout the area during a MCI.
It will be interesting to see what happens when they have a large scale incident and AMR/Medcom dispatch is pressed with AMR and Medcom traffic (don't forget, AMR New Haven Dispatches for all AMR in the State, not just NH area). I would bet that the Medcom traffic takes a back seat.
chris
Connecticut's CMEDs (or Coordinated Emergency Medical Direction) came into being after the Windsor Locks tornado in 1979 when a lack of coordination had hundreds of patients end up at Mt Sinai Hospital while relatively few went to Hartford or St Francis. As the name implies, one of the functions of CMED was to coordinate the distribution of patients throughout the area during a MCI.
It will be interesting to see what happens when they have a large scale incident and AMR/Medcom dispatch is pressed with AMR and Medcom traffic (don't forget, AMR New Haven Dispatches for all AMR in the State, not just NH area). I would bet that the Medcom traffic takes a back seat.
chris
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Medcom doesn't even coordinate anything. As far as I can tell, they just do priority hospital patches for Yale/St Raphs and all patches for the VA. The only thing they have going in their favor is that AMR has the transport contracts for pretty much every town in the Medcom service area. If they actually had to do mutual aid coordination like Southwest does it would probably be a total cluster.
leadjammer
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I heard both the Hospital and the Ambulance in a patch on MED 42 a few minutes ago. So there are repeaters on some of these channels. I always hear both on Med 7 and 8.
I heard both the Hospital and the Ambulance in a patch on MED 42 a few minutes ago. So there are repeaters on some of these channels. I always hear both on Med 7 and 8.
Northwest leaves its med channels in "repeat" mode. No need to listen to the mobile inbound frequency.
Kitn1mcc
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I remember when clean energy plant exploded. AMR sent cars from both NH and Hartford and its hunters area
N1SQB
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Yeah but I wonder how many local calls were affected or backed up as a result. A monopoly is never a good thing, especially when it comes to people responsible for emergency care.
Manny
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HMMM!
Things are getting really interesting. I heard MEDCOMM asking one of their units to do a radio check on med-6 and then med 7. This was after I heard a lot of work being done on med 6 with clicks here and there and tones going off. Then, I thought I was seeing things. MedComm patched a unit to get medical approval to accept a patient at St. Raphaels, using med 8. Weird thing was I only heard the hospital not the ambulance. That channel must not be on repeat mode. Man, I gotta lay off the booze . ;-)
Update: Just heard MedComm on med 4 testing with 5 charlie 51 and Saint Rays They told Rays that they will be on the "back up radio" for now. ( Med 8 ? ) Then they went to med 6 and began testing with Yale there. Looks like they are going to be taking over ALL the previously used med channels.
Manny
Things are getting really interesting. I heard MEDCOMM asking one of their units to do a radio check on med-6 and then med 7. This was after I heard a lot of work being done on med 6 with clicks here and there and tones going off. Then, I thought I was seeing things. MedComm patched a unit to get medical approval to accept a patient at St. Raphaels, using med 8. Weird thing was I only heard the hospital not the ambulance. That channel must not be on repeat mode. Man, I gotta lay off the booze . ;-)
Update: Just heard MedComm on med 4 testing with 5 charlie 51 and Saint Rays They told Rays that they will be on the "back up radio" for now. ( Med 8 ? ) Then they went to med 6 and began testing with Yale there. Looks like they are going to be taking over ALL the previously used med channels.
Manny
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